One Piece: Fishman Island Saga to Early Whole Cake Island Saga Sanji Fixes

[Kachon123]

Currently, Sanji's AP in his first Post-Timeskip Key says this:

Mountain level+ (Could match attacks from Vergo, who could slightly crack his leg), higher with Diable Jambe, Large Mountain level with barrage attacks (Doflamingo complimented the power of his Poêle à Frire: Spectre, while he said Luffy's Eagle Bazooka was weak)

Instead of having a 'higher' rating with Diable Jambe, it straight up 'Large Mountain level' due to Doflamingo calling Sanji strong:




Before you say that Doflamingo said "tough" and not "strong," the raws support strength rather than overall toughness:

よ ほう••• 強そう なのが来たな
Yoho... someone strong has arrived at last

Instead, Sanji's AP should look like this:

Mountain level+ (Could match attacks from Vergo, who could slightly crack his leg), At least Large Mountain level with Diable Jambe (Doflamingo complimented the power of his kicks, while he said Luffy's Eagle Bazooka was weak) higher with barrage attacks (Made Doflamingo put more effort into blocking Poêle à Frire: Spectre, that he did with his regular Diable Jambe kicks)

 

[That_moron2]

Looks good.

 

[Damage3245]

I'm against this. Doflamingo does not allude that Sanji is stronger than Trafalgar Law.

In fact Doflamingo handles Sanji with utter ease when he had a protracted fight with Law in the same arc on multiple occasions.

 

[Eminiteable]

Since the first key covers up to Early WCI his Diable Jambe would probably scale to High 7-A for damaging Luffy anyways.

 

[Kachon123]

I'm against this. Doflamingo does not allude that Sanji is stronger than Trafalgar Law.

He does though?

Literal moments before this, he fought Law.

Despite this, he said that he's finally met a strong person, meaning that at the very least, he considers Sanji's strength to be above Law's.

 

[Kachon123]

In fact, the phrasing: "someone strong has arrived at last" directly points to Doflamingo comparing the people he fought before and the person in front of him at the present moment.

 

[Damage3245]

He does though?

Literal moments before this, he fought Law.

Despite this, he said that he's finally met a strong person, meaning that at the very least, he considers Sanji's strength to be above Law's.

But Law is currently equal to Doflamingo on the profiles.

You're essentially saying that Sanji is stronger than Doflamingo himself.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Do we scale Hancock to Sengoku because he called her very strong, or did we simply make her H6A?
Did we scale her to Blackbeard, because he complimented her and said that her title held it's worth, or did we just add it as a justification for her H6A status?

 

[Kachon123]

But Law is currently equal to Doflamingo on the profiles.

You're essentially saying that Sanji is stronger than Doflamingo himself.

Then we should we say that he should be at lest comparable to Law.

There's also this:

Since the first key covers up to Early WCI his Diable Jambe would probably scale to High 7-A for damaging Luffy anyways.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Luffy wasn't even trying to block and Sanji needed a ridiculous amount of attacks to finally put him down.

 

[Kachon123]

Do we scale Hancock to Sengoku because he called her very strong, or did we simply make her H6A?
Did we scale her to Blackbeard, because he complimented her and said that her title held it's worth, or did we just add it as a justification for her H6A status?

What?

 

[Damage3245]

Then we should we say that he should be at lest comparable to Law.

Sanji doesn't have the feats to be directly comparable to Law.

He's already High 7-A via barrage attacks which seems good enough to me for now.

Luffy wasn't even trying to block and Sanji needed a ridiculous amount of attacks to finally put him down.

This is also true.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

What?

A character calling another strong doesn't mean they scale to him, dude.

 

[Kachon123]

Sanji doesn't have the feats to be directly comparable to Law.

He does, via Doflamingo saying that he's strong compared to those he fought earlier.

 

[KingTempest]

Doffy blocked his strongest attacks and laughed in his face

Law made him bleed with a hand swipe

Let’s not do this today

 

[Kachon123]

Doffy blocked his strongest attacks and laughed in his face

This never happened.

 

[KingTempest]

This never happened.

This happened the moment Sanji came in

Doflamingo tanked his entire arsenal with ease. Please don’t scale him to the guy who hurt him

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Can I see a panel of Doflamingo being damaged by Sanji's attacks pls and thank you

 

[Kachon123]

Law made him bleed with a hand swipe

Also, I don't think it fair to compare a bladed attack to a blunt force kick.

 

[Kachon123]

Doflamingo tanked his entire arsenal with ease

Against Sprecte, Doflamingo grunted while blocking it, calling it powerful. I don't think that's with ease.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Lmao
"Finally.. A strong one."
"Ooh, that's powerful"
Instantly restrains him and claps him
Has as much weight as Kizaru saying Marco's kick hurt.

 

[Kachon123]

Instantly restrains him and claps him

Lifting Strength isn't AP, so I'm not sure what the point of this is.

 

[KingTempest]

Also, I don't think it fair to compare a bladed attack to a blunt force kick.

It wasn’t a bladed attack. It was his bare hand

 

[Ped2018]

Also, I don't think it fair to compare a bladed attack to a blunt force kick.

Haki exists

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Lifting Strength isn't AP, so I'm not sure what the point of this is.

Alright man.

 

[Kachon123]

It wasn’t a bladed attack. It was his bare hand

That uses sharpness.

 

[Kachon123]

Alright man.

Sanji's durability doesn't scale to his Diable Jambe.

Durability still isn't AP.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I'm not even sure how to respond to that.

 

[Kachon123]

Haki exists

Your point?

 

[KingTempest]

That uses sharpness.

What

 

[Kachon123]

I'm not even sure how to respond to that.

By checking the profiles and realizing that you're point was wrong.

 

[Kachon123]

What

Scalpel.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

By checking the profiles and realizing that you're point was wrong.

I'm wrong because Doflamingo easily hurt Sanji while Sanji couldn't return such a favor?

 

[KingTempest]

Scalpel.

This is not a "sharpness" attack. This is his pure blunt force from his bare hand that ran by his face and missed

 

[Kachon123]

I'm wrong because Doflamingo easily hurt Sanji while Sanji couldn't return such a favor?

Again, Doflamingo harming Sanji has nothing to do with Diable Jambe's AP, as Sanji's durability ≠ Diable Jambe.

 

[Ped2018]

They're ganging up on Kachon bro

 

[DaMonkeMan]

They're ganging up on Kachon bro

I'm just not in the mood for goofy CRTs like this.

 

[Eseseso]

Disagree with scaling Sanji to Law when the latter did so, so much better against Doflamingo.

 

[Eseseso]

DJ should scale above Eagle Bazooka for being called strong when Eagle Bazooka was called fast but weak.

Law scaling is a no-no.

 

[Deceived3596]

I mean, if Sanji does significantly worse against Doffy than Law, despite being called "tough" or "strong" by Doffy when Doffy didn't call Law those things, then "tough" or "strong" in this instance probably isn't referencing physical AP, it could be referencing physical strength, as in lifting strength, or physical durability. Both are pretty similar in terms of possibility since they seemingly aren't directly contradicted like the AP interpretation of the statement.

Or it could just be an amalgamation of different things which Doffy, when coupled together, considers Sanji "tough" or "strong" for having them while he doesn't with Law because Law lacks those specific things. The statement's kinda vague since "strong" within this context could mean a whole host of things that are entirely separate from AP, it just isn't solid scaling tbh.