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One piece: Eustass Kid vs Queen
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Prove that Kidd wouldn't be serious with the dude who literally enslaved him and his crew for who knows how long.
This isn't "Casual Kidd", they know eachother and Kidd doesn't exactly like Queen
When has Queen actually used Haki in combat?
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Wow, bro doesn't do shit with Haki huh...
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Does this take into account queen going invisible or are we just assuming he doesn't because...
Also I think queen has attacks big enough to tear chunks off corna dio (as shown here)
I agree if kidd gets off Corna Dio or Damned Punk its over for Queen, but you could say the same about Queen's brachio-snake attack
Also do you have any speed scaling to get kidd above queen? Just curious.
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Probably due to his overconfidence in his Cybernetics.
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Kidd has better Unga Bunga then Brachio by a large margin
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We already showed that he has better speed
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Not in character until he gets pushed to the limit.
That's an explosion from his laser that came after it pierced its target, IIRC.
Fair point, a win-con for Queen.
Big Meme caught Queen off-guard and scales to Marco, who outmaneuvered Queen.
Kidd matched Big Mom time and time again and even caught her off-guard at times.
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Man the Kidd disrespect putting him vs Queen
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Honestly a way more interesting match would be with KingMan the Kidd disrespect putting him vs Queen
King just has the dawg in him
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mb I didn't post the full page thats my fault
as queen explains here the collar on luffy's neck is explosive not made of sea stone
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I dont think you understand right now we're debating this
Within the context that you suggested, you said that Casual Kid's magnetism can counter Queen's invisibility by sending him flying towards him.
Kid's awakening only works on targets he assigns, something he can only do if he sees Queen so right now his awakening is irrelevant.
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Oh i forgot abt that but still theres an issue. Queen cant scale relative or equal to Kidd in speed either way. Since Kidd fought a stronger Big Mom than Luffy and Queen did in Udon
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His invisibility is still only used when hea pushed to the limits. He doesnt use it in character
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Again this only scales him to zoan queen
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I understand but your speed scaling is still flawed as I pointed out
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When the **** did i say flying towards? I said DRAGGED and by the time Queen even uses Invisibility, All of his cybernetics would have been assigned many times over
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This is false
Queen didn't use his invisibility against sanji because he was holding back in hopes of gradually pushing him to use his raidsuit.
In a serious fight he would make use of his invis as shown in chapter 1031 and 1034
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Mb I didn't meant to misquote you. Regardless if you want to drop that point then fine otherwise do you have any proof of kidd's magnetism being capable of overpowering H6A characters?
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Queen has nothing faster than his Zoan form.
Assign before Queen can get him + Damned Punk = GG
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...His hybrid? His Lightning Amps?
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BIG MOM?!
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His awakening overpowered big mom
We're talking about his casual magnetism, the thing that he uses to form his giant metal structures...
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His Hybrid speed is the same as his Zoan speed, and his lightning amp affects AP only.
It's like you don't even read Queen's profile.
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It was Sanji, he already wanted Sanji DEAD by that point. Queen isn't going to start with that, especially since, as I said, Kidd would have already assigned him many times over by the time he gets around to using it
Oh I don't know, His entire ******* profile's LS section on Magnetism where he yeeted around Big Mom and Kaido
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No as I showed above his zoan is slower than his base let alone his hybrid, I didn't know it was a controversial take to say hybrid amps speed but I guess it is.
Pretty sure niji showed in wci that he gets faster when using his lightning
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Again, Kidd does not like Queen, he's not going to piss around when it comes to trying to ******* murder him.
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Actually its not.
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No queen wasn't going to start with that because he wanted sanji to use his raidsuit abilities, this is shown in chapter 1034
You still haven't scaled kidd over hybrid queen smh, I'm not denying kidd is faster but do you guys actually have a valid scale?
His magnetism never yeeted kaido or big mom, his awakening pinned down big mom and thats it, I already debunked his feat on the roofotp so that's irrelevant.
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Elaborate?
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If you're arguing that kid is going to speedblitz queen with assign before he uses invisibility that's fine. However you have to acknowledge that this is a completely different argument from what you were making before.
you cant get mad at me for not noticing you changing your argument mid debate
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So you don't actually have proof of him starting with it then?
I don't care about speed here, at worst they're relative.
Then remove them from the profile via CRT, until then they're fully usable. And pinning the chick who ******* STOMPED Zoan Queen is not a bad feat
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Where did I change my argument bro.
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You were saying before as I quoted (I can take a ss if you want) that kidd would overcome queen's invis by pulling him remotely via magnetism
You then started using awakening feats as a way to substantiate this claim
and then entirely switched your argument to kidd using awakening to begin with...
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I never said he's going to start off with it
I simply said he wont hesitate to use it when serious
Also I asked above if kidd has any counter if queen goes invis and you said yes so we're already arguing under the pretense that queen is invisible
If your assuming kidd is going to go ahead and use assign at the start then why is it ridiculous to assume queen would do the same?
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It doesn't take a genius to tell you that Kidd's magnetism is superior to Queen's LS bro, I'm going by the profile here, there's not an "Even higher" with awakening anywhere, so sorry honey, find another way to strawman me.
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Are you suggesting its fine to equate casual kidd to awakening kidd?
Where did I strawman you?
