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One Piece: Can We Get Much Faster - God Tier Speed Upgrade
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Sequence of events that show no proof Sanji moved 180 degrees in the timeframe of queens lasers travelling 50cm.
Nope. But if you weren't being a liar you would realise It isn't 50cm.
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Now you're just stonewalling. Given the sequence of events (such as Sanji having made the full rotation by the time the laser made contact with the ground), it's evident that he did
So you don't have evidence and are resorting to petty accusations, got it
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exactly good job, that's what a negative claim is, I don't need justification as the burden of proof isn't on me as im stating non existence of something the burden of proof is on the positive claim. What youre doing is burden shifting.
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That's... completely misusing all of those terms. Even a negative claim requires substantiation beyond just "no," otherwise no one's gonna take it seriously
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This seems fine.
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Yes
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it doesn't as I don't have the burden of proof, that's on the positive claim and if u wanted to you could've explained how it was incredulity but you didn't so what competent person would take you serious?
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Panel height = 417px
Queen's nose = 0.34971428571429 (102px)
angsizing: 0.34971428571429 * 417/[102*2*tan(70deg/2)] = 1 meter. Clear contradiction to your pixel scaling.
Queen's nose = 0.34971428571429 (102px)
angsizing: 0.34971428571429 * 417/[102*2*tan(70deg/2)] = 1 meter. Clear contradiction to your pixel scaling.
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A panel showing both Queen and Sanji should definitely be used over a panel that just shows Queen which's purpose is to show Queen shooting the laser.
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Like, at least 5 people on this thread alone
Anyways, the calcs make it abundantly clear what the distance is. Queen is also leaning his head over so despite Sanji being further from the body, that has no bearing on how far he is from Queen's head.
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The most recent panel should be used. Simple as that. Even so, its a contradiction to your pixel scaling.
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none of them are competent for one and my comment was on if what vzear said was incredulity or not, and its not
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I'd say quite the opposite, given they've actually argued while you've just said "no" and that's it.
Please make proper arguments instead of just going "nuh uh." I'm just gonna ignore you if you don't
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I would say multiple staff members and a calc group member are competent enough to judge a calculation's merit. Certainly more so than a member who has no business questioning their ability to do so to begin with.
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"Theyre not competent!" Cried the sub-100 posts blue name who thinks that screaming no is an actual argument.
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Almost ever single one of your over 1000 posts has been cringe sooooo
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In the event of a contradiction, it then comes down to which is more reliable. Kachon has given an argument for why his is more reliable to use here
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@Vzearr
I have no clue what gives you the idea that being needlessly antagonistic on a thread that's long since been accepted will change that but I'll advise you here and now you're better off making a proper argument for your stance.
@DaReaperMan
Don't encourage him.
I have no clue what gives you the idea that being needlessly antagonistic on a thread that's long since been accepted will change that but I'll advise you here and now you're better off making a proper argument for your stance.
@DaReaperMan
Don't encourage him.
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Stalker.
Explain why it would be better to use a panel that happens 2 panels before the feat over a panel that happens one panel before the feat. Lets not forget the fact that 50cm is clear bullshit.
"Sanji and Queen were both in the panel" isn't a good argument.
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Because its contradicted by a panel after the fact.
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Claiming something's not a good argument simply because you said so is not how I'd go about this, but sure. Fundamentally, nothing really changes between the two panels as far as event sequence goes, so I'd rather go with the one that shows both characters to properly gauge a distance between them.
Also, "clear bullshit"? Don't argue from your feelings.
I could also say your 1 meter result is "clear bullshit" because it's contradicted by the Sanji and Queen panel.
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You mean the panel that is not at all fit to be used because it doesn't give us a clear picture of the two beings involved, which is necessary for the trajectory of the lasers to be accurately mapped for this calc to work?
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You have two panels. One of which has a single character performing an action against another who isn't on-page, and another with both characters being present at the same time, from which a clearer comparison and visualization can be made.
Two calculation group members and 3 evaluating staff looked at both scenarios and decided the one with a proper measurable distance between two characters is preferable for use.
This isn't rocket science. This is a basic choice of what's accepted as a more accurate feat by people that, being honest, hold far more credibility than a new member who floundered that he couldn't downgrade a series for the sake of it when debunked on that fact.
There's no agenda here. The thread just passed.
Two calculation group members and 3 evaluating staff looked at both scenarios and decided the one with a proper measurable distance between two characters is preferable for use.
This isn't rocket science. This is a basic choice of what's accepted as a more accurate feat by people that, being honest, hold far more credibility than a new member who floundered that he couldn't downgrade a series for the sake of it when debunked on that fact.
There's no agenda here. The thread just passed.
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the irony coming from you shifting the burden when all you had to do was explain how it was incredulity
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I'd suggest you no longer comment on this thread if you have nothing useful to say anymore.
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yet if you knew logic you would know that a single negative claim has nothing to do with an argument
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say that to clover not me
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I never questioned the calc why are you responding to me
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ive never claimed the existence of anything
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youre the one who said it was incredulity when its not
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No he's saying it to the right person. There's no confusion
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There seems to be a discussion on the distance between Queen and Sanji in this thread. What if I say that we should ask Damage3245's opinion, since he agrees that a distance of half a meter between Queen and Sanji doesn't make sense?
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