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Also i like how this thread is arguing as though skill is the only point of contention, yet no one addressed any of this
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One-handed Katana, or a Sword & Shield? (Iaian vs Jaune Arc)
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Also i like how this thread is arguing as though skill is the only point of contention, yet no one addressed any of this
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I mean the Amps and the Shield one-shot thing aren't on his profile lmaoooo
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How strong is the forcefield and can it be broken?
If not please send proof.
Not on the page so it can't be used.
Not on the page so it can't be used.
Even if it could be, Iaian also scales multiple one-shot gaps above his scaled value.
He won't get the time to heal because Iaian will be slicing him to death.
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Classic LN physically impossible skill feat moment.
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What
A katana doesn't "beat" a broadsword. And, frankly, on the level of anime, the differences between the two are relatively inconsequential because the fighting styles don't leave them as pronounced.
None of this is true
Dear god I am going to die of a stroke from sheer historical inaccuracy, you're just pulling shit out of your ass at this point. Generalizing "armor beats swords" is such a weird point, because one doesn't "beat" the other, one protects from the other. Katanas and broadswords are going to kill targets pretty similarly, though broadswords are typically better. Samurai rarely even used katana in actual battles, they preferred spears, bows, and various other types of swords.
Tl:dr the sheer amount of shitty historical arguments in this thread is about to make my head burst, please do not base arguments in historical weapon facts if you don't know what the **** you are talking about.
That's all, I don't care about the matchup.
Edit: I don't think anyone voted based on these shitty ass reasons but if anyone did, invalidate those votes.
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It can be broken yes, but its not so much a 'how strong is it', it works on health bar mechanics, it can take a set amount of damage before breaking. In this key their forcefield can take dozens of hits from people on their own level before going down, up to being able to withstand blows from Low 7-Bs, but Jaune's is vastly superior in terms of how much damage his can take and it is capable of regenerating itself to an extent.
I am going to make the CRT after i respond to Glass' post on the other thread.
Its passive, his Aura heals him from damage he takes
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LMFAO
Just saying it from the history I read about from various sites and books, I've done my research on this shit, just happens to vary from yours
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Holy shit I just got notified of this... Time to make arguments for my GOAT
Anyhow, no idea why you guys bring up the differences in Katanas and Broadswords IRL, its an anime katana Iaian can cut bullets, highly powered battle armor and boulders without the katana losing its dent...
And the most notable thing is that he stopped the charge of a giant Rhino Monster directly with it...
Also he is able to still slash and deflect attacks even if his katana is almost completely destroyed
Anyway will read the rest of the thread before making my vote since this has been going for a while...
By the way this is his Pre MA Arc key, he has both arms...
Anyhow, no idea why you guys bring up the differences in Katanas and Broadswords IRL, its an anime katana Iaian can cut bullets, highly powered battle armor and boulders without the katana losing its dent...
And the most notable thing is that he stopped the charge of a giant Rhino Monster directly with it...
Also he is able to still slash and deflect attacks even if his katana is almost completely destroyed
Anyway will read the rest of the thread before making my vote since this has been going for a while...
By the way this is his Pre MA Arc key, he has both arms...
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Whatever research you're doing is wrong.
And yes, samurai used katana... as a last ditch weapon if everything else went wrong, because spears, bows, and later, guns, were always much better. And even then, they didn't always use katanas. Tachi were far more popular before the era of the Ashikaga shogunate.
Katana are fine swords, don't get me wrong... but you're bullshitting yourself if they're anything incredible to speak of. Hell, this is supported by their poor metallurgic skills. Japan critically lacked access to valuable metals for a majority of it's history, which is why armor was the way it was: partially metal, but utilizing a lot of leather
Katanas are fine swords, and they cut well, but they are by no means overly superior to a broadsword and would be far less effective against more heavily armored knights like what you'd observe in Europe around the same time.
And as Recon very correctly pointed out, because this is anime, the differences between two relatively similar swords is pretty much a non-issue so the entire argument is pointless. Jaune has a shield, which helps her a lot, but the differences between a broadsword and katana really do not matter on this level. Swap one out for a spear, and you have a different story.
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Honestly I've seen both sides in various places, it's just a case of Katanas being the main weapon is a lot more common then you'd think, like, too common
Jaune is a dude~
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See that's how little I care about the matchup, I confused Jaune with that other chick.
And no, I am pretty familiar with ancient Japanese history. The katana was always a ceremonial item first, and a last resort weapon after. Largely because of spears.
Again, just check your sources and know what you are talking about before you make a historically based argument, and also make sure the argument is relevant to the debate at all. I'm out.
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Chick? Like, the fate Jeanne? Question mark?
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No the other sword and shield RWBY lady, with the red hair and stuff.
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Iaian FRA.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Iaian FRA.
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Just so yall know, this thread is going to be instantly removed in like a day lol
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The thread isn’t even added to the pages, why would it be removed?
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Because im going to make the CRT that upgrades this key of Jaune to Low 7-B
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Good luck with that
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Thank you
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and higher with the gravity shield thing
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Skill blogs have been a thing for a long time, RWBY's skill blog is in the works so their skill will be irrefutably solidified
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Besides probably Earl I haven't seen anyone attempt to make one of those and today is the first time I heard about an actual crt for that.
Anyways rwby kinda lacks that so I don't see how it will even be solidified let alone irrefutably
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My guy, RWBY has some of the most solid and blatant skill fuckery on the wiki lol, they are exceedingly skilled regardless of what you think
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I distinctly recall half of the cast being as skilled as a monkey with a banana, some even less.
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Then you havent watched a single second of the series
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I wish I hadn't wasted a single second on it tbh.
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I'm just gonna ignore the drama in this thread and just voice my opinion about the matchup
I don't know why y'all are arguing about Katana vs Broadsword and Shield when this is a fictional universe where both combatants can swing their swords down and shatter city blocks while their swords are barely nicked, slash people dozens of meters away with anime logic and laser beams, and somehow slash people even though the bladed side isn't even touching the target. It's all just fiction. Each of these fighters have their own unique fighting styles that completely disregard real life common sense
That being said, Ian has the stats advantage and has a MASSIVE skill advantage. Decades of training under the most skilled swordsman OPM has ever seen vs a year or two at best alongside other students where the series clearly showcased Jaune's inexperience compared to literally everyone else. Granted, Pyrrha is extremely skilled in her own right, but even comparing Pyrrha to the likes of Atomic Samurai or the Sword School/Clan/Thingies in OPM is very difficult to say
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I don't know why y'all are arguing about Katana vs Broadsword and Shield when this is a fictional universe where both combatants can swing their swords down and shatter city blocks while their swords are barely nicked, slash people dozens of meters away with anime logic and laser beams, and somehow slash people even though the bladed side isn't even touching the target. It's all just fiction. Each of these fighters have their own unique fighting styles that completely disregard real life common sense
That being said, Ian has the stats advantage and has a MASSIVE skill advantage. Decades of training under the most skilled swordsman OPM has ever seen vs a year or two at best alongside other students where the series clearly showcased Jaune's inexperience compared to literally everyone else. Granted, Pyrrha is extremely skilled in her own right, but even comparing Pyrrha to the likes of Atomic Samurai or the Sword School/Clan/Thingies in OPM is very difficult to say
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Just now I'm realizing there was a debate between the katana and the broadsword lol
Afaik the katana is not good compared to the broadsword, some would even say it's trash
Afaik the katana is not good compared to the broadsword, some would even say it's trash
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Would like to point out that this is exclusively a Beacon arc/post Beacon Arc thing, after that he is shown to be on par with the rest of the cast in skill
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even if this is true (which is only really shown via leadership, he didn't really do anything after Haven), he's still missing 10+ years of experience compared to the rest of the cast, plus the quality of his training is debatable in and of itself due to not being at Beacon and no one else in his vicinity besides Ozpin wielding a sword and shield. Even if we assume that Jaune's training during and after Haven is on par with Ian's, Ian has experienced that training over 10 years vs Jaune's less than 1
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Asta uses Katana, Broadsword, Greatsword, and an African Ceremonial Sword.
So he solos.
So he solos.
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except both series break the laws of physics massively so it doesn't really matter that much lmao
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doesn't Dante use dozens types of swords spears bows axes plus a massive spherical turrent contraption thingy
he solos
git rekt
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Eh, its sorta bolstered by the weird Accelerated Development that RWBY characters have
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I never said otherwise tho
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I don't think it's AD. It's moreso they didn't get enough real-world experience at Beacon or their middle/elementary schools, but now that the world went to shit and they're tossed into actual crises, they end up learning quickly the hard way
It's kinda like the job market. You can learn whatever you want at school, but very little of that is going to help you succeed when you actually get a job
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