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On the topic of Raikage and Mifune's speed (Naruto)

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Quick question, does Mifune’s quote not say that the sword stroke is LS, why does that make the chakra beam slashes LS? Would it not just be the swing of his blade that is LS? I only skimmed this thread so I may have missed a clarification here.

Edit: How I interpreted Mifune’s quote was as follows: because he swings the blade at LS it can fire a chakra-air pressure like slash. The actual wave would slow down traveling through air, similar to how when you throw a ball the release speed of your arm is faster than the ball after it’s travelled a little bit. Just food for thought I guess.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Quick question, does Mifune’s quote not say that the sword stroke is LS, why does that make the chakra beam slashes LS? Would it not just be the swing of his blade that is LS? I only skimmed this thread so I may have missed a clarification here.
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If the sword stroke is LS, Tsunade Contradiction is at play here.
But I believe it stated LS for the chakra slashes.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
If the sword stroke is LS, Tsunade Contradiction is at play here.
But I believe it stated LS for the chakra slashes.
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Could that not be technique specific for the TP technique? Plus momentarily swinging a blade at LS isn’t exactly the same as moving your entire body over massive distances at LS
 
Sorry to barrage with questions but does anyone ever react to Mifune’s blade swing while he’s firing the air chakra slashes? Because depending how strict we are with the interpretation, the only LS movement from Mifune would be his blade when he’s firing air-chakra slashes. Furthermore it may be restricted to when he has the Kyuubi chakra as the image shows (which could eliminate the Tsunade potential contradiction).

Edit: While I’m asking so many questions, regarding LS Raikage, would him using the LS teleportation as opposed to him just traveling himself contradict him being LS? I know Madara could react to the teleportation so does Ay have any feats being able to keep up with Madara to add consistency to LS Ay?
 
Can we stop overcomplicating things? Please? Forget Kurama Chakra, forget Tsunade.
 
I agree that the Tsunade thing shouldn’t hold much weight, but the quote is contextualized by Kyuubi amped Mifune, it’s worth delving into the context of statements.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Could that not be technique specific for the TP technique? Plus momentarily swinging a blade at LS isn’t exactly the same as moving your entire body over massive distances at LS
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It was the speed, specifically, that was a problem. Why would the technique itself- What-
 
M3X said:
Kurama Chakra has nothing to do with this dude, stop.
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Considering the text is describing a feat performed by Kyuubi amped Mifune, I’d like a better explanation than “dUdE sToP”. Cmon man be a bit less hard headed, I’m not your enemy.


GodlyCharmander said:
It was the speed, specifically, that was a problem. Why would the technique itself- What-
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aight I was just asking lol I don’t know Naruto in and out.
 
The Kurama Chakra is definitely not relevant here, it's describing the technique, the Kurama Chakra is not even MENTIONED, and therefore should not affect the description, using the image as a basis here is just silly.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Considering the text is describing a feat performed by Kyuubi amped Mifune, I’d like a better explanation than “dUdE sToP”. Cmon man be a bit less hard headed, I’m not your enemy.
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There is no explanation man. This has nothing to do with Kurama's Chakra. It's not stated that the technique is exclusively lightspeed with Kurama Chakra. And IIRC, this was the only time we see Mifune doing this.
 
Regarding Raikage, the OP presented more than one possibility of interpretation, I think it would be good if everyone who is going to give an opinion, read about Gotoki that the OP mentions...
 
Ignoring Lariat a bit, and focusing on Issen. I agree with the others above and I think the statment is about the technique in general, and not only about Mifune. In case of the Samurais, Sasuke has a feat and I have seen several calculations about it and they all gave Relativist and that is a good thing.

And does that technically make the Raikage with the "armor 2" FTL, or not? after all, Sasuke with the Sharingan can see and counters an attack declared SoL, Raikage gave FTE on he, even he using the Mangekyou Sharingan, I think the Kaido in OP was upgraded with something similar, or i'm wrong?
 
GTsek said:
Ignoring Lariat a bit, and focusing on Issen. I agree with the others above and I think the statment is about the technique in general, and not only about Mifune. In case of the Samurais, Sasuke has a feat and I have seen several calculations about it and they all gave Relativist and that is a good thing.

And does that technically make the Raikage with the "armor 2" FTL, or not? after all, Sasuke with the Sharingan can see and counters an attack declared SoL, Raikage gave FTE on he, even he using the Mangekyou Sharingan, I think the Kaido in OP was upgraded with something similar, or i'm wrong?
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Its mean Raikage Would be FTL cuz Sasuke Have Perceiving Light speed and Raikage Faster than Sasuke Eye's, isn't?
Naruto kcm1 Dodging Ay Punch in his Armor2 mode who is FTL, means Naruto Kcm1 is FTL Too.
Obito who could keep up with Kcm1 scaling to Raikage too, kakashi and Guy sensei too of course.

Here we go again.
 
OK.

Well, since the Light Fang thread was finished, to finish here we need more opinions from staff members, right?
 
GTsek said:
OK.

Well, since the Light Fang thread was finished, to finish here we need more opinions from staff members, right?
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Yes, we'll need them to give their opinions on whether or not we can use these statements. We also need to figure out if mifunes entry is talking about his sword swing or the chakra slash that comes from it. Also we'll have to discuss if this scales to the other samurai chakra slashes as well.
 
And you need to discuss if this'll be a 2020 Haku situation where it scales to nobody of it it's valid for scaling
 
so arc brought this to my attention

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水より生ぜし光速の弾 死角より出で敵を抉らん!!

光速の弾 -> lightspeed bullet
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Lightspeed bullets gathered from water. They come out of a blind spot and gore the enemy!!
 
itachi's water bullet

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Water Release: Water Fang Bullet

The user forms projectiles underwater; the water that the projectiles are made of is highly pressurised because of how compact they are. The projectiles are then shot from the water at high speeds at the user's target, which can be made more lethal by adding a spinning motion. This technique is...
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Cyberblader90 said:
so arc brought this to my attention

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水より生ぜし光速の弾 死角より出で敵を抉らん!!



Lightspeed bullets gathered from water. They come out of a blind spot and gore the enemy!!
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That's the hype text, which we currently don't use on the wiki for Naruto
 
Ok, so we got
1. Haku mirror movement
2. Kirin Sasuke( if not considering to be an Flowery Language)
3. The Issen
4. Lariat Stuff
5. Light Fang
6. Maxima laser
7. Mabui Tensho ( count as Teleportation)

Any else?
 
WrongIdea21 said:
2. Kirin Sasuke( if not considering to be an Flowery Language)
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The official translation of the Sha no Sho does not mention anything about lightspeed in Kirin's page. The Kirin is also explicitly stated to travel to the ground in a thousandth of a second, which results in Massively Hypersonic+ (600 feet) to Sub-Relativistic (60,000 feet). This raises the question: is natural lightning in Naruto faster than natural lightning in real life? Also, the cloud heights are derived from this article.
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Wasn't Storm Release: Laser Circus described as Lightspeed or Something?
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The Rin no Sho simply describes them as "light rays".
WrongIdea21 said:
4. Lariat Stuff
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Was this not rejected a week ago? It was ruled as a simile.
 
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