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Time to bring this back.
And I'm considering hax
I consider every character to start at their strongest form that they've actually reached. That means I didn't include Power Stars for most Mario Characters as they never use them in canon. Same with the Pure Hearts and Luigi. I used Composite characters, meaning the Links don't really fit into the list. The rest are either the same character as someone else (ZSS and Dr. Mario) or are boarderline smash origional (Mii Fighters and R.O.B.) Now for a dedicated explanation for each tier.
F: Alph should be obvious. He dosn't have the tier 4 spaceship that Olimar has and is just a little guy with plant things. I put Duck Hunt over Wii Fit since WFT dosn't actively fight and Duck Hunt also has the duck and the hunter.
E: I scaled Isabelle to Villager. Little Mac has way more experience and Pirahna Plant (Who I scalled to Goomba) has way more abilities. Villager is the absolute god of E tier since, due to timehax, he can defeat anyone below him. But he can't touch anyone above him, so this is the highest he can go even if only a small amount of poeple above him can actualy kill him.
D: Tier 8. Mostly in order of AP. Roy is way more skilled than Ice Climbers, Pichu has better abilities than Roy, Game and Watch wins with AP, Pac-Man does a hecking AP, Snake does this more so and the early stage Pokemon can be more or less interchangeable
C: Tier 7. Anime Falcon was used and is way weaker than Ivysaur and lacks any hax to make up for this. Ryu and Ken could be before or after Ivysaur, but Ryu is definately over Ken thanks to transformations. Inkling regens from everything, Corrin literally uses Inkling's main weakness, Lucas is lucky while the rest of the Pokemon (And Red) AP stomp him to the point where luck is irrelivant.
B: The four fire emblem characters other than Ike are probably interchangeable. Ike has great AP and Powernull. Olimar beats Ike by being far away. The Spacies are far more skilled with their Arwings then Olimar could hope to combat even with an AP advantage and, more importantly, could actually hit Olimar. Mega Man beats the Spacies For reasons below. Mewtwo vs Mega Man is a debate for another time.
A: Honestly Mewtwo probably could have fit here since most Mario characters don't resist mindhax. Also I scaled K Rool to Mario characters since he appears in some sports games with them. Ridley beats Luigi because Phazon, B*tch. Hylia and Bayo can pretty easily combat that sort of thing at least on Ridley's level.
AA: Link and Ganon are respectable, but it's generally agreed that Cloud beats them, espesially with speed unequalized. BJ AP stomps Cloud with mechs powered by Power Stars. I honestly don't know why I put the Kid Icarus characters over BJ, just pretend I didn't because I'm too lazy to do all that again. Samus is Haxxed and 3-B while Kirby characters are from the Kirby Franchise. Empathetic hax.
AAA: Rosalina and Shulk don't have many powers compared to everyone else. Richter is just better Simon. Ness and Joker just do Ness and Joker things and Super Sonic AP stomps everyone.
S: Mario 2-Bs. Pretty obvious.
X: This is the interesting one. See, only three characters in Smash Bros can beat Dark Samus. Samus (Obviously), Simon and Richter. Simon and Richter deal with stuff like DS on a daily basis. But, Dark Samus can beat literally everyone or at least tie them with regen. Her Mindhax was going to effect 4-D beings, far above Kirby, Sonic etc...'s pay grade for resistance. When only three characters in the entire meta can beat you (One of which has an almost even matchup with you) and you casially stomp most of the top tiers, that's god tier material.
And I'm considering hax
I consider every character to start at their strongest form that they've actually reached. That means I didn't include Power Stars for most Mario Characters as they never use them in canon. Same with the Pure Hearts and Luigi. I used Composite characters, meaning the Links don't really fit into the list. The rest are either the same character as someone else (ZSS and Dr. Mario) or are boarderline smash origional (Mii Fighters and R.O.B.) Now for a dedicated explanation for each tier.
F: Alph should be obvious. He dosn't have the tier 4 spaceship that Olimar has and is just a little guy with plant things. I put Duck Hunt over Wii Fit since WFT dosn't actively fight and Duck Hunt also has the duck and the hunter.
E: I scaled Isabelle to Villager. Little Mac has way more experience and Pirahna Plant (Who I scalled to Goomba) has way more abilities. Villager is the absolute god of E tier since, due to timehax, he can defeat anyone below him. But he can't touch anyone above him, so this is the highest he can go even if only a small amount of poeple above him can actualy kill him.
D: Tier 8. Mostly in order of AP. Roy is way more skilled than Ice Climbers, Pichu has better abilities than Roy, Game and Watch wins with AP, Pac-Man does a hecking AP, Snake does this more so and the early stage Pokemon can be more or less interchangeable
C: Tier 7. Anime Falcon was used and is way weaker than Ivysaur and lacks any hax to make up for this. Ryu and Ken could be before or after Ivysaur, but Ryu is definately over Ken thanks to transformations. Inkling regens from everything, Corrin literally uses Inkling's main weakness, Lucas is lucky while the rest of the Pokemon (And Red) AP stomp him to the point where luck is irrelivant.
B: The four fire emblem characters other than Ike are probably interchangeable. Ike has great AP and Powernull. Olimar beats Ike by being far away. The Spacies are far more skilled with their Arwings then Olimar could hope to combat even with an AP advantage and, more importantly, could actually hit Olimar. Mega Man beats the Spacies For reasons below. Mewtwo vs Mega Man is a debate for another time.
A: Honestly Mewtwo probably could have fit here since most Mario characters don't resist mindhax. Also I scaled K Rool to Mario characters since he appears in some sports games with them. Ridley beats Luigi because Phazon, B*tch. Hylia and Bayo can pretty easily combat that sort of thing at least on Ridley's level.
AA: Link and Ganon are respectable, but it's generally agreed that Cloud beats them, espesially with speed unequalized. BJ AP stomps Cloud with mechs powered by Power Stars. I honestly don't know why I put the Kid Icarus characters over BJ, just pretend I didn't because I'm too lazy to do all that again. Samus is Haxxed and 3-B while Kirby characters are from the Kirby Franchise. Empathetic hax.
AAA: Rosalina and Shulk don't have many powers compared to everyone else. Richter is just better Simon. Ness and Joker just do Ness and Joker things and Super Sonic AP stomps everyone.
S: Mario 2-Bs. Pretty obvious.
X: This is the interesting one. See, only three characters in Smash Bros can beat Dark Samus. Samus (Obviously), Simon and Richter. Simon and Richter deal with stuff like DS on a daily basis. But, Dark Samus can beat literally everyone or at least tie them with regen. Her Mindhax was going to effect 4-D beings, far above Kirby, Sonic etc...'s pay grade for resistance. When only three characters in the entire meta can beat you (One of which has an almost even matchup with you) and you casially stomp most of the top tiers, that's god tier material.
