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no one cares but i placing shinobu 5th on the hashira power ranking
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Obanai Versus Gyomei (GRACE)
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Okay, this sounds like the sort of thing that would matter for matches or scaling though I guess that would be a topic for when this is what we are discussing.
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Nah, i think he means that shinobu is the 5th strongest in the hashiras.
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I think I prefer to wait with that for now and see more of what other people have to say.
In terms of brute strength or how well they do in a fight?
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This, I'm pretty sure.
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in terms of feats
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if obanai get a vote, it would be a miracle
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I accounted for that possibility by also mentioning matches.
That's also a way of looking at this.
You can technically vote for Obanai yourself though that tends to be frowned upon.
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yeah
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That's a thing you can do?
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It is though that doesn't tend to be well known.
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"Anybody, including the creator of the thread, gets exactly one vote." (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Versus_Thread_Rules#The_Rules)
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Can you bump if the message in the last 8 hours wasn't a bump?
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FINALLY I CAN HAVE FUN AHAJAHSHSJSJ
First off wtf dude why you used the 25 mins fight muzan when he is explicitally told to be weakened to a version even more pathetic than before? I won't even adress that but i will refute the others
About Obanai slicing muzan neck this feat is not as impressive as it seems, muzan did not have to worry about his neck and only worried about not getting his organs targetted, as shown by him hurrying up to defeat the hashiras as they started to unlock stw and also It was stated that slicing his neck was useless.
Not only that but muzan body has lower durability than his tentacles as every hashira was able to pierce his body but almost nome were able to break his tentacles
Obanai when he cut muzan arms targetted the softer side of his flesh and not the hardened tentacles while a weaker gyomei was busting them easily with his attacks
To make things worse it was explicitly Said that muzan flesh was getting weaker to the point weaker foes were able to pierce it so that makes the neck feat way less impressive under the shown feats
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It's supposed to be a thing that you do if there wasn't any activity in approximately 12-24 hours. There isn't a hard rule about this but you should avoid cluttering threads.
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because it is also said to have regained its strength.FINALLY I CAN HAVE FUN AHAJAHSHSJSJ
First off wtf dude why you used the 25 mins fight muzan when he is explicitally told to be weakened to a version even more pathetic than before? I won't even adress that but i will refute the others
About Obanai slicing muzan neck this feat is not as impressive as it seems, muzan did not have to worry about his neck and only worried about not getting his organs targetted, as shown by him hurrying up to defeat the hashiras as they started to unlock stw and also It was stated that slicing his neck was useless.
Not only that but muzan body has lower durability than his tentacles as every hashira was able to pierce his body but almost nome were able to break his tentacles
Obanai when he cut muzan arms targetted the softer side of his flesh and not the hardened tentacles while a weaker gyomei was busting them easily with his attacks
To make things worse it was explicitly Said that muzan flesh was getting weaker to the point weaker foes were able to pierce it so that makes the neck feat way less impressive under the shown feats
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why are you talking so much headcanon?
'about Obanai slicing muzan's neck this feat is not as impressive as it seems' while the others can't even damage the tentacles, obanai cuts the muzan's neck. (no feat that gyomei can cut the neck)
'muzan did not have to worry about his neck' headcanon. this is something you made up completely and there is no such thing in the manga.
'It was stated that slicing his neck was useless.' The only reason cutting the neck is useless is because the muzan is regenerates instantly. is gyomei regening?? No he cant regen. I'm only getting the attack potency feat from here anyway.
'Not only that but muzan body has lower durability than his tentacles as every hashira was able to pierce his body' I don't know how you said it. Do attacks from hashiras weaken the muzan?
'Obanai when he cut muzan arms targeted the softer side of his flesh and not the hardened tentacles while a weaker gyomei was busting them easily with his attacks' that doesn't change anything. obanai can exceed the dura of the muzan's neck. this is reason enough for me to say obanai ap>gyomei ap.
'To make things worse it was explicitly Said that muzan flesh was getting weaker to the point weaker foes were able to pierce it so that makes the neck feat way less impressive under the shown feats' I didn't see anything about it in the photos you posted.
sorry for bad english.
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These arguments are very very wonky i cannot lie. I still dont get how you dont take gyomeis ap to be better when he smashed young muzans head.
Ill stop following this thread for now.
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It's not even headcanon that the neck wouldn't be hard, He doesn't need a strong neck like the Upper Moons because his neck isn't a concern. Why would he waste energy making it durable? This is because he has multiple brains and hearts, so he doesn't need more of a durable neck.
It's even shown later that sanemi and the other hashira are parrying the tendrils while gyomei is just smashing them because his AP is higher.
What?? Bro, I showed you it like 5 times. Why are you dodging that panel?
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???? i debunked it
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Muzan's profile still gives his neck the highest durability, so that might be material for a CRT.
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I can make a case out of it. Gyomei without mark destroys muzan's head completely, but struggles to cut kokushibos head while MARKED.
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You didn't "debunk it." You said Muzan was "weakened." He was simply dazed, even if he WAS weakened, that's a HEALTHY Muzan. Who is way more durable than a drugged and poisoned Muzan. If you say this is headcanon, you simply don't understand how power scaling works.
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Yeah, that's certainly something to consider.
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I'd just say switch Muzans durability to Unknown, since his tentacles seem to be the durable points of his body.
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I'll keep that in mind for the future.
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Having a healthy muzan doesn't change anything. As in the old muzan, statements are not given as it regains its former power.
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that muzan was weakened.
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Also a debunked statement. They thought he regained his power, but that wasn't the case. The drug weakened him, they just thought the drug didn't work.
No more "weakened" than Old Muzan, Hell, you can't even call it that. He was DAZED at best.
I really don't get why you're dodging my debunks and just saying you came out on top when you didn't answer 99% of my debunks.
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it has nothing to do with thought, it directly says 'if muzan eat our soldiers, muzan will regain their power'. a clear statement also raises the muzan what you debunk.
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which one did i not answer?
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So, you're saying the drug had no effect on Muzan, he regained his power, and is no different than a healthy Muzan?
Do you hear yourself?
Muzan clearly accepts that the drug has made him weaker, and he also runs out of STAMINA. Something demons should have infinitely of.
You're just ignoring canon panels to wank obanai to high heaven, I think I made a better point than you, I'll just wait for votes now.
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I don't know how many times I said it but, he says this against the beginning of the war.So, you're saying the drug had no effect on Muzan, he regained his power, and is no different than a healthy Muzan?
Do you hear yourself?
Muzan clearly accepts that the drug has made him weaker, and he also runs out of STAMINA. Something demons should have infinitely of.
You're just ignoring canon panels to wank obanai to high heaven, I think I made a better point than you, I'll just wait for votes now.
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That doesn't matter. Muzan did NOT regain his power. This is made very clear, they just through the drug didnt work, so they thought muzan was gonna come back guns blazing. He didn't.
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I will make one about it soon, i thought it was already known
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Oh, is that so? I guess I'll be checking it out then once it has been made.
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Oh yeah, Question, Nehz.
Can Akaza's compass be exceeded by speed alone, if he has it active??
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no, there is a statement that he gained 90% of his power at the beginning of the war.
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Well, if Akaza can't move fast enough to defend or dodge, then he can't really do much about an attack even if he knows that it is coming or where it is coming from.
90% is your own conclusion not something that was outright stated and that was also before we found out about the other drugs from Tamayo.
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