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none of this is relevant to stamina smh.
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It is when God Aizen was sealed due to Ichigo pushing him to his limits. Which means he doesnt have unlimited stamina.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:none of this is relevant to stamina smh.
That's true if you accept that the Hogyoku rejected Aizen which makes no sense. Ichigo was shown to sense the emotions of many characters through the series including Ginjo, and if the Hogyoku had rejected Aizen he would had been killed by Gotei 13 since the Hogyoku is what protects Aizen. Aizen himself doesn't have Regenerationn. Did you click the scans?PaChi2 said:It is when God Aizen was sealed due to Ichigo pushing him to his limits. Which means he doesnt have unlimited stamina.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:none of this is relevant to stamina smh.
actually no,his power was increased even with only 3 seals free out of 33PaChi2 said:Muken Aizen is Aizen after he got beaten to death by Ichigo and sealed.
Its fundamentally (at least at the beginning) a depowered version of Monster Aizen.
"That's true if you accept that the Hogyoku rejected Aizen which makes no sense. Ichigo was shown to sense the emotions of many characters through the series including Ginjo, and if the Hogyoku had rejected Aizen he would had been killed by Gotei 13 since the Hogyoku is what protects Aizen. Aizen himself doesn't have Regenerationn. Did you click the scans?"Paul Frank said:He said at the beginning as in when he was first sealed
'Never stop having Reiatsu' is the same as 'Never stop having energy'; if someone is incapable of having their stamina reduced to "0", that would logically conclude their stamina is infinite.Damage3245 said:Aizen had 'unlimited Reiatsu' in the sense that he will never die and never stop having Reiatsu. That doesn't mean he had infinite stamina.
That's easy to proof when the manga show you the opposite. Muken Aizen didn't show any signs of getting tired while he was fighting Yhwach. He used KS at the same time as he casted Kido. KS drain a lot spiritual energy according to the light novel as that why Tokinada couldn't keep using it. Sound familiar? Same thing happened to Muken Aizen once Yhwach destroyed his heart with his hands, KS stopped working on Yhwach. Can't keep KS on without spiritual energy. We are also shown Muken Aizen without the heart sweating because zero heart means he wasn't producing spiritual energy = zero stamina.Damage3245 said:It would have to be demonstrated that Aizen is incapable of becoming tired.
Simply being immortal isn't a good enough qualification.
Aizen had 'unlimited Reiatsu' in the sense that he will never die and never stop having Reiatsu. That doesn't mean he had infinite stamina.
I've already demonstrated up above why that doesn't hold up.Xulrev said:'Never stop having Reiatsu' is the same as 'Never stop having energy'; if someone is incapable of having their stamina reduced to "0", that would logically conclude their stamina is infinite.
Then how about never ending stamina ? That seems to be more plausibleDamage3245 said:Xulrev; it is not about running completely out on Reiatsu, it is about running low on Reiatsu.
If Aizen's Reiatsu bar is 100/100 no matter what he does, then he would have unlimited stamina. But that's not what is being presented; what is being presented is that Aizen's Reiatsu bar can never reach 0, not that it can never decrease and therefore Aizen can never get tired.
Don't accuse me of intentionally ignoring this. I'm saying that your arguments don't hold up for 'unlimited stamina'.
From manga: All the sinner on muken cannot be killed for one reason or another. Meaning Muken exist for shinigami who for some reason cannot be killed or they are not ordinary shinigami. So basically:SinsofMan said:Reiatsu does not equate to stamina.
Period. I dont even recall if this was ever stated to be the case. All this honestly proves is that Aizen is really hard to kill and apparently Kubo forgot you can kill Shinigami and tried to equate all characters in mugen to nigh unlimited stamina. Despite the fact is this is clear PIS. I agree with Damage, Kukui etc above.
Do you know why Shinigami eat? i'll answer it for you. It's so they can restore energy.Damage3245 said:Mayuri's statement of 'a Soul Reaper's spiritual pressure springs eternally so long as their heart is beating' applies to every Soul Reaper / Shinigami.
All of them will have 'unlimited energy' so long as they are alive. So you'd be effectively arguing for unlimited stamina for all Shinigami.
That's bad analogy because that runner can still run out of energy, if you force him to keep running no matter what eventually his energy level can reach 0. Aizen can never reach 0Damage3245 said:To use a similar analogy, if a runner runs an entire marathon over the course of a few hours and at the end of it he is only capable of walking/crawling at best, it would be fair to say that he has not run out of energy, right? His 'energy levels' aren't 0, yet he clearly doesn't have nigh-infinite stamina.
So Aizen not being able to hit 0 energy doesn't matter.
You commented without reading the thread or just ignoring the scan where spiritual energy = stamina?SinsofMan said:Reiatsu does not equate to stamina.
Period. I dont even recall if this was ever stated to be the case. All this honestly proves is that Aizen is really hard to kill and apparently Kubo forgot you can kill Shinigami and tried to equate all characters in mugen to nigh unlimited stamina. Despite the fact is this is clear PIS. I agree with Damage, Kukui etc above.
I already proved this wrong and you ignored me.Damage3245 said:Mayuri's statement of 'a Soul Reaper's spiritual pressure springs eternally so long as their heart is beating' applies to every Soul Reaper / Shinigami.
All of them will have 'unlimited energy' so long as they are alive. So you'd be effectively arguing for unlimited stamina for all Shinigami.
Spiritual energy = staminaAppleLord said:Since reiatsu has been proven to equal stamina by the manga itself no less. Can we move on? I don't want this to go in circles.
You forgot this:Damage3245 said:> Muken Aizen didn't show any signs of getting tired while he was fighting Yhwach.
Not being tired in one short fight = / = having unlimited amounts of stamina.
Nah I am good. I will keep commenting. Also, my point was that the manga was inconsistent. And also that the unlimited reiatsu doesnt equate to stamina. That is all. Pretty clear cut.MachTwo said:Snip