Conceptual Manipulation Resistance For Reio Fans

[Adam1396]

Sure? Not seeing how this rebuttals or counters anything. Iko was already crazy strong and then got an amp from stealing a bunch of Hikone’s power (a Transcendent). All of the other fragments/holders aren’t Transcendent so why would this matter.

That's not a counter argument.
From the scan mentioned in OP, the resistance either come from having fragment or enormous power. There's no middle room. And both of these suggests resistance for other characters for relevant reason.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So, Adam, you agree then that not every single Fullbringer is going to get CM resistance then correct?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

That's not a counter argument.
From the scan mentioned in OP, the resistance either come from having fragment or enormous power. There's no middle room. And both of these suggests resistance for other characters for relevant reason.

Why lie? The scan is blatantly obvious in what it is saying. The fragments Iko stole contained the power to make him strong enough break out of Ichibe’s hax. All fragments are not equal and those ones were taken from a Transcendent Hikone. You seem to miss the fact that you need to prove that all fragments contain this amount of power (they clearly don’t), because that is explicitly what allows Iko to resist CM2. All you’ve done so far is assert baseless assumptions as fact.

 

[Adam1396]

So, Adam, you agree then that not every single Fullbringer is going to get CM resistance then correct?

I simply made thread based on what's agreed upon.
So if fragment argument is accepted, they would get it.
If transcendnce reatsu is accepted, transcendent reatsu holders would get it. It's simple.

 

[Adam1396]

Why lie? The scan is blatantly obvious in what it is saying. The fragments Iko stole contained the power to make him strong enough break out of Ichibe’s hax. All fragments are not equal and those ones were taken from a Transcendent Hikone. You seem to miss the fact that you need to prove that all fragments contain this amount of power (they clearly don’t), because that is explicitly what allows Iko to resist CM2. All you’ve done so far is assert baseless assumptions as fact.

That doesn’t answer anything. Are you trying to say it's transcendental reatsu that grants resistance or not?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So if fragment argument is accepted, they would get it.

This isn't accepted.

Aight in that case, we can all proceed with the concession on that point and move on to your next argument. Which if I understand correctly is anyone with SK fragment absorbed Iko levels of transcendent reiatsu (or higher) should have the CM resistance?

 

[Adam1396]

This isn't accepted.

Aight in that case, we can all proceed with the concession on that point and move on to your next argument. Which if I understand correctly is anyone with SK fragment absorbed Iko levels of transcendent reiatsu (or higher) should have the CM resistance?

Fine. You should have said that earlier.

No that's not what I'm saying.
Just all transcendant reatsu holders should have that. Because it's clear either just fragment or enormous reatsu grants the resistance

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I could see a possibly rating for the other non Iko characters perhaps, but I’ll wait for the others to chime in and make arguments.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

That doesn’t answer anything. Are you trying to say it's transcendental reatsu that grants resistance or not?

Transcendent reiatsu? Sure. But you’re currently misunderstanding what Transcendent reiatsu even means. To be Transcendent is to be so far above others in reiatsu that they cannot sense yours. It’s not like it’s some higher D type energy where it must be that dimensionality no matter how much of it there is.

 

[Adam1396]

Transcendent reiatsu? Sure. But you’re currently misunderstanding what Transcendent reiatsu even means. To be Transcendent is to be so far above others in reiatsu that they cannot sense yours. It’s not like it’s some higher D type energy where it must be that dimensionality no matter how much of it there is.

If that's what accepted we should add that to all reio candidates

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I’m fine with that so long as they have scaling to Fragments Iko.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The people who scale relative to that Iko are Res Hikone, CFYOW Zaraki, Ichigo, Aizen, Yhwach, and Orihime (technically Ginjo does too but that’s only with an emotion amp, so it’s probably best not to include him) [Yhwach and Aizen probably already resist it].

 

[Bastolan27]

(technically Ginjo does too but that’s only with an emotion amp, so it’s probably best not to include him)

Tabber: Emotion Amp Resistances

PLEASE DON'T LEAVE MY MANS GINJO OUT OF THIS

 

[MysticBrawler]

Why exactly is this scan being interpreted as Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation when this could easily be seen as Power Nullification? It's even matches what it says in the Soul Physiology page: Limited Power Nullification (Reiryoku can null the abilities and techniques of those massively weaker than the user)

 

[Barry_Ken]

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