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Shouldn't their Poison Dragon Slaying Magic ignore durability? It's been shown to be corrosive by Erik and being capable of constantly weakening a person to death.
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Natsu and Erik's Poison Dragon Slaying
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if u could get scans of this, it would help
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Scans in op now
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Makes sense to me.
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Looks good with me
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Looks good.
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I think Resistance to Poison Manipulation should also be added to Happy and Natsu for being able to resist Cobra poison for a long time.
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Does anyone have scans of Erik's fight with that stone dragon after the grand magic games? I can't remember the dragons name so I'm having a bit of trouble finding it.
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The dragon Cobra faced had no name, it was only called Rock DragoDesmond253 said:
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So I could only find one scan of Erik hitting the rock drago
does it look like any of the rocks are decaying?
does it look like any of the rocks are decaying?
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That's cause the decay comes from the poison. A being like the rock dragon with no organic components wouldn't be effected.
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I thought so, but just wanted to check
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If enough people agree, then can be applied
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I didn't see anything wrong with it
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A poison being corrosive doesn't really mean that it "ignores durability". It just means that the poison is more potent.
Natsu should get limited poison resistance for being able to withstand and continue fighting against Cobra, despite Cobra's poison being "fatal"
Natsu should get limited poison resistance for being able to withstand and continue fighting against Cobra, despite Cobra's poison being "fatal"
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Poison in general is an ability that ignores durability.
And Natsu already has Poison Resistance in 7FDM, unless you're referring to Pre-timeskip Natsu
And Natsu already has Poison Resistance in 7FDM, unless you're referring to Pre-timeskip Natsu
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he is
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Bunp
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In order to be as accurate as possible I'll post my thoughts later but I agree with the general idea.
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First poison's use is at Ch. 134 against Erza. A direct bite from Cuberios won't instantkill Erza but it's strong enough to prevent Erza from fighting (Ch. 135).
In Ch. 149 Cobra shown his corrosive poison against Natsu. In 150 Cobra states his poison decays all that touches. After that he showed himself capable of eat Cubelios's Poison and used his breath attack against Natsu affecting both Natsu and Happy afterwards. Even Cobra accomplished Natsu and Happy's resistance to keep moving even being poisoned. But after that Natsu was unmobile and he even let him fall with no resistance and winning by a scream rather than a movement.
Conclusion: Cobra's poison is corrosive but it isn't that much. I didn't found any scan of said corrosion in anything but Natsu and it wasn't that good. So Natsu won't get resistance to corrosion inducement going by this feat because without proofs of Cobra's poison being highly corrosive we can't assume Natsu resisted it if he was clearly affected. A statement alone can't upgrade the power of the corrosion since it could be hyperbolic.
And with the poison itself I think Natsu should get a very limited resistance to poison. Cobra himself stated that his poison was capable of decay everything but with some time. Sure he'll get resistance unlike Erza who was defeated moments after the poison got into her body but the difference relies in the application method. Cuberios bited Erza while Natsu and Happy only breathed poisonous mist.
So Natsu's resistance is there but it isn't that good. Limited Resistance to Poison Manipulation to both Natsu and Happy should be fine.
In Ch. 149 Cobra shown his corrosive poison against Natsu. In 150 Cobra states his poison decays all that touches. After that he showed himself capable of eat Cubelios's Poison and used his breath attack against Natsu affecting both Natsu and Happy afterwards. Even Cobra accomplished Natsu and Happy's resistance to keep moving even being poisoned. But after that Natsu was unmobile and he even let him fall with no resistance and winning by a scream rather than a movement.
Conclusion: Cobra's poison is corrosive but it isn't that much. I didn't found any scan of said corrosion in anything but Natsu and it wasn't that good. So Natsu won't get resistance to corrosion inducement going by this feat because without proofs of Cobra's poison being highly corrosive we can't assume Natsu resisted it if he was clearly affected. A statement alone can't upgrade the power of the corrosion since it could be hyperbolic.
And with the poison itself I think Natsu should get a very limited resistance to poison. Cobra himself stated that his poison was capable of decay everything but with some time. Sure he'll get resistance unlike Erza who was defeated moments after the poison got into her body but the difference relies in the application method. Cuberios bited Erza while Natsu and Happy only breathed poisonous mist.
So Natsu's resistance is there but it isn't that good. Limited Resistance to Poison Manipulation to both Natsu and Happy should be fine.
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Limited is what's added to something when there is a condition for it to be active. The resistance would just be normal resistance, it just wouldn't be good resistance.
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Better ask a staff member to solve this.
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Insn't it the same situation as Magellans poison? I'm no entirely sure, but I think it was added only via statement
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I haven't read Impel Down's Arc yet so I can't be sure but Damage3245 stated that Magellan's horns had corrosive poison.
Anyway Luffy has Limited Resistance to Corrosion Inducement while he was unscathed by a clear cut on his shoulder made by Crocodile's hook which has a poison that can melt rocks with a simple touch. That's better than Cobra's feat TBH.
Anyway Luffy has Limited Resistance to Corrosion Inducement while he was unscathed by a clear cut on his shoulder made by Crocodile's hook which has a poison that can melt rocks with a simple touch. That's better than Cobra's feat TBH.
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Bump.
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I thought it had already been agreed?
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Nobody said anything with what I said so IDK.
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Did you ask a staff member what it takes for there to be a Limited?
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No
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is Limited even mentioned on the rules for profiles?
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This is mentioned in the Resistance page:
For any ability, resistance to that ability can be demonstrated, to varying degrees of effectiveness, ranging from slight and mostly inconsequential to extremely high, potentially completely nullifying those abilities. However, like everything else, resistance has to be judged based on feats.
In this case Natsu shown resistance to poisons that works over time. Erza was directly affected in her vicinity while Natsu breathed the poisonous mist so that would take more time to actually work.
I disagree with giving Natsu resistance to Corrosion Inducement. Cobra's corrosion inducement has nothing but a single statement which could be hyperbole. But I agree with giving Natsu resistance to Poison. But if Limited doesn't fit then we should specify this part:
For any ability, resistance to that ability can be demonstrated, to varying degrees of effectiveness, ranging from slight and mostly inconsequential to extremely high, potentially completely nullifying those abilities
For any ability, resistance to that ability can be demonstrated, to varying degrees of effectiveness, ranging from slight and mostly inconsequential to extremely high, potentially completely nullifying those abilities. However, like everything else, resistance has to be judged based on feats.
In this case Natsu shown resistance to poisons that works over time. Erza was directly affected in her vicinity while Natsu breathed the poisonous mist so that would take more time to actually work.
I disagree with giving Natsu resistance to Corrosion Inducement. Cobra's corrosion inducement has nothing but a single statement which could be hyperbole. But I agree with giving Natsu resistance to Poison. But if Limited doesn't fit then we should specify this part:
For any ability, resistance to that ability can be demonstrated, to varying degrees of effectiveness, ranging from slight and mostly inconsequential to extremely high, potentially completely nullifying those abilities
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Yeah, then basic resistance to poison works.
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I asked Promestein anyway to solve the doubts.
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