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if the creators of this game want to keep making money and if the game wants to live theoretically forever

they should limit the amount of servants they add each time (there's plenty of historical figures out there but put a small amount each time you do it because even though history has a ton of them it doesn't mean it won't run out and it depends on the historical figure as some like hitler are definitely excluded) DW can also use obscure ones too though have to give an in-universe explanation as they are too obscure sometimes.


also the reason small amount is so that when it's the future the amount of historical figures in this world increases so you can use 21st century ones too.

if you add too many too quickly it's going to take a while before you can use the newest historical figures. so do it slowly so you don't have to wait for quite a while before you can use servants from the newest century.
 
Question: what do we rate Rhongomyniad in AP & dura? Not the one that Lancer Artoria holds. I mean the one that holds the world together.
 

I see. As I anticipated, we can't understand each other, Beast of star.
She's talking about Merlin.


Magic level, surpassing possible calculative power..... First planet class!

Beast VI/Sodom's Beast

The great W of Babylon from Saint John's Book of Revelation.

Nega-Messiah, the greatest atrocity as viewed in Christianity.

At times called the Beast of Revelations, who is in turn equated to Satan.

The one who lays waste to the most prosperous yet depraved cities of an age.

It is not divine retribution or anything of the sort.

It is because of the Holy Grail she possesses that the "city" prospered from the shadows in the first place.

What she feels is most "delicious" is the flesh of the fruit the moment before it rots.

In other words, a city-state filled to the brim with human desire.

When all desires able to be expressed by humans are contained within a single city, as in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, it will be offered up to her as the greatest dinner of all.

With these traits in mind, her class was determined.

Donning the temporary name of the great ***** of Babylon.

Brought to life by mankind, she is the calamity who will find human history most satisfactory.

Her name is Beast VI/S.

One of the seven Evils of Humanity, the Beast who embodies the sin of "Depravity".

Its most likely not Depravity(堕落). But “Deterioration” or “Collapse”.

EDIT:
Base on the convo with Shiroyasha its Corruption or Depravity. Being the same Kanji.
 
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So if I understand this right, Beast Nero flat out is the Beast of Revelation. Does that mean she's the beast Arthur keeps traveling through timelines to defeat?
 
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You can read the translation for the Lilim Harlot chapter here; there is a stage-selection thing on the singularity map:

Caster Gilgamesh shall henceforth be known as "Gilgamesh the 2.5th".
Final part of the chapter on the 21st of April.

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Piracy ethics in the 16-18th century vs in the 21st century.

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Consequences for too much fanfics and gacha farming.

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So Beast VI/S refers to Proto Merlin as a Beast of the Planet (could also be translated as Beast of the Star, depending on the context). Coincidentally, Fou (aka. Primate Murder) is known by this title. So there is a theory going around that Proto Merlin is Fou in disguise or that Merlin and Fou merged in some way.

Fou and Proto Merlin share the same voice actress (though she also voices Artoria, so could be a coincidence), and this theory makes Proto Merlin having a weight of 20 kg less weird.
A counter argument would be that Merlin already has Independent Manifestation, which is a skill normally exclusive to Beasts, though Void Shiki has it too and there doesn't seem to be a reason for potential Beast Merlin to not be a regular Beast of Humanity.
 
Found this funny comic with mordred

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Translation:

Title: Mordred 7

First Slide:

Mordred: "I don't want people to treat me like a woman... but i don't want them to treat me like a man either!"

"I'm Royally pissed off"

second slide:

Mordred: "Isn't this the lance of that pink headed rider?"

Third Slide:

Boiiiiiiiiiing

Fourth Slide:

Mordred: "Eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!?"

Artoria: "WTF!?"
 
but after solomon is done how much upgrading and leveling up/palingensis do i need for the other parts like lost belt/chapter 2 and chapter 1.5 stuff like agartha?
Depends on your rolls, but there is a guy in Youtube that has done pretty much the entirety of Sings and LBs with 3 Stars (Servants AND CEs) - this is pretty brutal, as 3 stars CEs are really ******* bad when compared to 5 stars ones
Honako/Green has a series where he did similar, but used 3 stars servants + any CEs (on a new account, by the way)

Herakles can clean up pretty much anything if you have him. Focus on levelling the good 3 stars or lower (David, Cu Lancer, Bedivere, Hundred Faces, Anderson, Chen Gong, etc), get the key Skills to 10 (David team evade, Cu Lancer S2, Anderson S2, etc) and the rest is up to you learning how to play the game and deal with the gimmicks the fight has. (And if some specific fight is just getting too boring and you can't get through, you can use the 3 marks to revive all the team w/ NP, that pretty much guarantees any well thought out team a win).

One of the things I initially did wrong was levelling the skills/etc of AoE Servants in detriment of Single-Target Servants, because I liked the AoE more. The hard fights are heavily skewed towards 1 strong enemy + "mobs", so I had a bit of a difficult time. But after I levelled the ST Servants and got some good 4 stars, the boss fights became difficult enough to make me think a bit, but not so easy as to make them uninteresting.

Also, unless you are trying to get a limited servant, roll a bit on Story. Specially in the beginning, variety is important and the Story 5 star CEs tend to be better (of course there are exceptions to this, Starry Night/ishtar xmas one for exaple is an awesome CE and was banner, First Sunrise/saber in kimono one is also awesome, etc). This seems to be changing at least a bit though - we have had a sequence of good CEs in the banners recently, so take this w/ a grain of salt.
 
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Depends on your rolls, but there is a guy in Youtube that has done pretty much the entirety of Sings and LBs with 3 Stars (Servants AND CEs) - this is pretty brutal, as 3 stars CEs are really ******* bad when compared to 5 stars ones Honako/Green has a series where he did similar, but used 3 stars servants + any CEs (on a new account, by the way) Herakles can clean up pretty much anything if you have him. Focus on levelling the good 3 stars or lower (David, Cu Lancer, Bedivere, Hundred Faces, Anderson, Chen Gong, etc), get the key Skills to 10 (David team evade, Cu Lancer S2, Anderson S2, etc) and the rest is up to you learning how to play the game and deal with the gimmicks the fight has. (And if some specific fight is just getting too boring and you can't get through, you can use the 3 marks to revive all the team w/ NP, that pretty much guarantees any well thought out team a win). One of the things I initially did wrong was levelling the skills/etc of AoE Servants in detriment of Single-Target Servants, because I liked the AoE more. The hard fights are heavily skewed towards 1 strong enemy + "mobs", so I had a bit of a difficult time. But after I levelled the ST Servants and got some good 4 stars, the boss fights became difficult enough to make me think a bit, but not so easy as to make them uninteresting. Also, unless you are trying to get a limited servant, roll a bit on Story. Specially in the beginning, variety is important and the Story 5 star CEs tend to be better (of course there are exceptions to this, Starry Night/ishtar xmas one for exaple is an awesome CE and was banner, First Sunrise/saber in kimono one is also awesome, etc). This seems to be changing at least a bit though - we have had a sequence of good CEs in the banners recently, so take this w/ a grain of salt.
Depends on your rolls, but there is a guy in Youtube that has done pretty much the entirety of Sings and LBs with 3 Stars (Servants AND CEs) - this is pretty brutal, as 3 stars CEs are really ******* bad when compared to 5 stars ones Honako/Green has a series where he did similar, but used 3 stars servants + any CEs (on a new account, by the way) Herakles can clean up pretty much anything if you have him. Focus on levelling the good 3 stars or lower (David, Cu Lancer, Bedivere, Hundred Faces, Anderson, Chen Gong, etc), get the key Skills to 10 (David team evade, Cu Lancer S2, Anderson S2, etc) and the rest is up to you learning how to play the game and deal with the gimmicks the fight has. (And if some specific fight is just getting too boring and you can't get through, you can use the 3 marks to revive all the team w/ NP, that pretty much guarantees any well thought out team a win). One of the things I initially did wrong was levelling the skills/etc of AoE Servants in detriment of Single-Target Servants, because I liked the AoE more. The hard fights are heavily skewed towards 1 strong enemy + "mobs", so I had a bit of a difficult time. But after I levelled the ST Servants and got some good 4 stars, the boss fights became difficult enough to make me think a bit, but not so easy as to make them uninteresting. Also, unless you are trying to get a limited servant, roll a bit on Story. Specially in the beginning, variety is important and the Story 5 star CEs tend to be better (of course there are exceptions to this, Starry Night/ishtar xmas one for exaple is an awesome CE and was banner, First Sunrise/saber in kimono one is also awesome, etc). This seems to be changing at least a bit though - we have had a sequence of good CEs in the banners recently, so take this w/ a grain of salt.


i hate leveling skills though because it spends a lot more farming than just farming exp.
 
i hate leveling skills though because it spends a lot more farming than just farming exp.
Yeah, some of te skills mats required are absurd (Benkei, I am looking at you), specially in US, but you should be able to get key skills at least to 6 spending daily AP.
one of these things is not like the others
Cu Lancer supremacy here
But yeah, Hundred Faces is awesome, especially if you are willing to spend 4 grails to get her to 90
 
Yeah, some of te skills mats required are absurd (Benkei, I am looking at you), specially in US, but you should be able to get key skills at least to 6 spending daily AP.

Cu Lancer supremacy here
But yeah, Hundred Faces is awesome, especially if you are willing to spend 4 grails to get her to 90
I spent so much trying to get mash to level 80 is it worth it?
 
But yeah, Hundred Faces is awesome, especially if you are willing to spend 4 grails to get her to 90
I really don't think she's impressive, neither are any of the low star assassins for that matter. Sasaki and Mata hari are at least worth something tho
 
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I made this meme since yang guifei actually has dialogue involving amadeus and antonio. also because antonio hates amadeus.

and there's actually a fanfic where antonio falls in love with her sort of. Amadeus does become jealous because of that.
 
no way he would get jealous when it means more Marie for him.
Chapter 13

Amadeus chuckled and glanced across the greenhouse grounds, serene as always. Bunyan did an amazing job keeping the plants thriving, maybe a little too much, to the point there were flowers that Marie could easily hide in if she felt so inclined. His eyes fell on the koi pond, one of several, and the couple sitting beside it-.


It took all of his willpower not to straight up stop in his tracks when he did a double take.


Yang Guifei was sitting on the bench, gazing down fondly at none other than Salieri, who had his head resting on her lap, asleep it would seem while the Foreigner stroked his hair.


Amadeus was struck with an odd mixture of emotions, the most notable thing being confusion and this inexplicable sense of betrayal. It was like a knife twisting in his gut.


When did…? Why did…?


He didn’t understand. Why did he feel so jealous? Hurt? It wasn’t like he fancied Yang, beautiful as she was. Salieri though…


No, no that couldn’t possibly…


The more he thought about it, the more it seemed to drive the knife deeper.


They were both his friends, and more to the point, adults, if they wanted to date, there was no reason to stop them and yet…


Some small, ugly part of him was so bitterly jealous. He’d known Salieri longer, he knew his music inside and out and vice versa. A strange sort of intimacy only they knew…


Amadeus cut off that train of thought. He should be happy for Salieri, he’d found someone special like so many Servants in Chaldea had. Avengers were fickle creatures after all, Yang’s carefree nature seemed to be a good balance to Salieri’s rigidness.


Yet...and yet…


He bit his lip. Why did he feel wronged? He didn’t love Salieri...didn’t…he didn’t, right?

“Amadeus?” Marie’s voice cut through his thoughts, in which he’d been so absorbed he’d actually forgotten he wasn’t alone.


“Aha! Sorry! Just spacing out,” he tried to laugh it off but his gut was churning uncomfortably. The image of Yang and Salieri was burned into his brain and all that did was upset him more.


Don’t be stupid! He mentally scolded himself, How many times do I need to say it?!


He smiled at Marie.


I love Marie Antoinette, not Antonio Salieri. Even that felt forced and unnatural. He wouldn’t have gotten so upset if that were true...right?

Why did he feel like the more he reminded himself that he loved Marie and not Salieri it sounded less and less genuine? It was like a robot spitting out programmed phrases and words. That bothered him more than anything else.


He noticed D’eon was regarding him with a curious expression.


“I would say you’re being weird, but you’re always weird,” Marie said.


Thankfully, they had walked far enough away that neither D’eon nor Marie noticed Yang and Salieri...and Amadeus didn’t have to keep trying to avoid staring. Either that or barging over and intentionally interrupting their...’date’. That was perfectly within his own naturally petty and immature personality to do something that stupid.


Oh, yes...this was jealousy, pure and simple. Ugly, ugly jealousy...and he still didn’t fully get it.


Well, no, that was a lie. Arguably, he did get it, he just...didn’t want to admit such things. Especially not when Salieri would just be repulsed by him. Amadeus was painfully aware that Salieri despised him and if these ‘feelings’ amounted to anything, confessing them would accomplish absolutely nothing.


He’d be safe with Marie and his feelings for her. A few squabbles with Sanson didn’t mean anything.


“Oh Maria, you wound me!” he said, mock swooning in response to her comment, “But as usual, you’re correct!”

“Do you...get some perverse pleasure out of having Marie verbally abuse you?” D’eon asked, Marie giggled.


“Perhaps.”


Better than Salieri’s hatred, he thought. Getting lightly bullied about his behavior by Marie was commonplace and welcome.


“He’s hopeless, D’eon. Just ignore him.”


“I’m afraid Amadeus is a hard man to ignore,” the Chevalier pointed out.


“She’s also got a point,” Amadeus agreed.


Despite the playful teasing, Amadeus was still stuck on all those negative emotions towards Salieri and Yang, since they had well and truly lodged themselves in the back of his mind.


At this rate, a few bottles of wine would be more than enough to help forget. He still had some hidden under his bed he’d stolen from the kitchen. Ah, nothing quite like plans to get utterly sloshed first thing in the morning. Marie would disapprove but she didn’t have to know about it.


Maybe he’d even create some pathetic, depression-ridden song...wouldn’t be the first time anyway.


“Are you two, er, busy?” Amadeus asked, trying to divert his attention elsewhere and hoping he didn’t sound too desperate.


“I was invited to tea, so I’m preoccupied, sorry,” Marie replied.


“That’s...that’s fine,” Amadeus tried to hide his disappointment.


“Saying you don’t intend to interrupt and drag her off again,” D’eon interjected.


“Oh no! I would never!”


“Why do I not believe that…” Marie hummed, looking up at the ceiling, “Come along, D’eon. We’ll be late.”

“Oh, the Chevalier is invited but not me?” Amadeus asked, unable to conceal his annoyance, childish as it probably sounded.


“No, she wasn’t. She just happens to be going in the same direction,” Marie replied but she sounded...evasive? Odd. Then again, maybe she genuinely didn’t want Amadeus to drag her off again for an emergency.


“In that case, I think I’ll retire to my room for a little while,” he said, “I can...go check on Antonio later.”


“Good idea,” Marie nodded as they exited out into the considerably cooler hallway.


“Farewell Monsieur Amadeus,” D’eon bowed slightly and Marie gave him a small wave before the two of them walked off.


Check on Antonio...Amadeus hummed. He did say he would retire to his room...but would a different room be really so bad?


Amadeus smiled. After all, where better to wait for his dear friend?





Chapter 14

“I just...I wanted…” the Caster trailed off, looking away.

“Yes?”

“I just...wanted to congratulate you!”

Salieri blinked, “For what?”

“F-for getting with Yang Guifei! Didn’t see that coming at all!” he laughed uncomfortably.

“What.”

Quite honestly, Salieri was at a loss for words. What on earth gave Amadeus that idea of all things?

“I’m...Yang and I are not together,” he said finally, shaking his head.

“You don’t have to lie about it, you know,” Amadeus carried on, “You two looked...so comfortable...on that bench.”

Oh.

Salieri flushed. He had really been hoping no one had seen that for exactly this reason. Yang could claim it was platonic until she was blue in the face, people would draw conclusions regardless of how blatantly false they were.

“There is nothing going on between us, Amadeus. You’re an idiot if you assume otherwise.”

“Eh? But…”

“And I’d appreciate it if you didn’t stick your nose in my business anyway.”

“Then why did you look like that?” Amadeus asked, sounding irritated. What right did he have to sound like that?

“Why do you care?” Salieri demanded, frustrated by the Caster’s childish display, “The way you’re acting, it’s almost like you’re jealous.”

Amadeus recoiled in shock, “No! I-!”

“But if I hadn’t seen your incessant and irritating pursuit of Marie first-hand, I’d almost say you were the one fancying Yang Guifei.”

That triggered an almost immediate change of behavior, “Don’t drag my friendship with Maria into this, I love her-.”

“Oh, do you now?” Salieri snapped, “Then why are you so jealous, and of what? Because Yang was kind enough to offer me a place to rest?”

“How could I not question it?!” Amadeus snapped back, “How would you feel seeing two of your friends together and having not told you anything?”
 
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