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[Maxeez]

When you think about it, Seventh Holy Scriptures being able to erase it is a way of saying that the Root is also able to do so, since everything comes from the Root including this specific weapon.

 

[Maxeez]

1-A soul dura.

 

[Tdjwo]

I mean, it's not like Roa is Root level or anything. His soul simply resists the flow that goes back to the Root when people die, it's more like his soul's durability rather than existence.

And you do realize how badly that contradicts apophatic Theology? The biggest issue is the fact that Roa can reach and survive the root. Something beyond description, comprehension and only reached by negation is supposed to never be reachable to Roa and even if it somehow was, it's supposed to completely erase him yet he can withstand thay using magic of what? Why can he resist something that's supposedly apophatic in nature? Makes no sense.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

And you do realize how badly that contradicts apophatic Theology? The biggest issue is the fact that Roa can reach and survive the root. Something beyond description, comprehension and only reached by negation is supposed to never be reachable to Roa and even if it somehow was, it's supposed to completely erase him yet he can withstand thay using magic of what? Why can he resist something that's supposedly apophatic in nature? Makes no sense.

trying to get the thread reopened

 

[Tdjwo]

trying to get the thread reopened

Don't bother. I don't have the energy of supporting any verse if the staff members don't even know what they are doing.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Don't bother. I don't have the energy of supporting any verse if the staff member* don't even know what they are doing.

theres only 1 nasuverse staff whos weirdly opposed to his verse denying my thread only makes it so a big downgrade thread can be made

 

[Maxeez]

And you do realize how badly that contradicts apophatic Theology? The biggest issue is the fact that Roa can reach and survive the root. Something beyond description, comprehension and only reached by negation is supposed to never be reachable to Roa and even if it somehow was, it's supposed to completely erase him yet he can withstand thay using magic of what? Why can he resist something that's supposedly apophatic in nature? Makes no sense.

Because he did not in fact reach it. He modified his soul in order to resist the flow and erasure of his soul but it doesn't matter since :

When you think about it, Seventh Holy Scriptures being able to erase it is a way of saying that the Root is also able to do so, since everything comes from the Root including this specific weapon.

You could say that it's a way to somewhat counter Roa's supernatural soul resurrection.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Because he did not in fact reach it. He modified his soul in order to resist the flow and erasure of his soul but it doesn't matter since :

You could say that it's a way to somewhat counter Roa's supernatural soul resurrection.

Souls have to pass the root when they die.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@Tdjwo Just let it go, goodness

 

[Tdjwo]

Because he did not in fact reach it. He modified his soul in order to resist the flow and erasure of his soul but it doesn't matter since :

Resisting the flow and erasure of something apophatic sounds contradictory. The word "resisting" against a apophatic existence sounds so wrong and totally discredits apophatic Theology.

You could say that it's a way to somewhat counter Roa's supernatural soul resurrection.

So basically, holy scriptures>Roa>Root? This is even getting worse.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Resisting the flow and erasure of something apophatic sounds contradictory. The word "resisting" against a apophatic existence sounds so wrong and totally discredits apophatic Theology.

So basically, holy scriptures>Roa>Root? This is even getting worse.

ciel tier 0 holy shit

 

[Tdjwo]

@Tdjwo Just let it go, goodness

I'm. I'm simply showing the contradictions of the root being apophatic which this wiki seemingly refuses to acknowledge.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'm. I'm simply showing the contradictions of the root being apophatic which this wiki seemingly refuses to acknowledge.

It's not matter of contracity, it's because you guys spammed the f*** out this thing in a days, which is why the mods being so done with this
And something about cursed bs that sparked a debates in RvR

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Nasuverse base universe can still reach High 1-C tho.
Planet and moon = 8D or even 9D if the upgrade are successful lol
Infinite Planet= 9D or 10D
Infinite Number of Universe= 10D or 11D

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Nasuverse base universe can still reach High 1-C tho.
Planet and moon = 8D or even 9D if the upgrade are successful lol
Infinite Planet= 9D or 10D
Infinite Number of Universe= 10D or 11D

the planets can go much higher if we take wog statements into account

 

[Tdjwo]

It's not matter of contracity, it's because you guys spammed the f*** out this thing in a days, which is why the mods being so done with this

We didn't spam anything. Only 3 threads were created and they got closed for wrong reasons each time.

And something about cursed bs that sparked a debates in RvR

What does that mean?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

What does that mean?

KillerChasen is a lolicon.

 

[Tdjwo]

KillerChasen is a lolicon.

KillerChasen kept giving shitty translations. Had to ask a real translator to translate the concept of infinity stuff for me.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

We didn't spam anything. Only 3 threads were created and they got closed for wrong reasons each time.

3 controversial threads, that's enough to make any of us and the mods be like "yeah no, stop it"

 

[Maxeez]

Souls have to pass the root when they die.

I... already know this ?

Resisting the flow and erasure of something apophatic sounds contradictory. The word "resisting" against a apophatic existence sounds so wrong and totally discredits apophatic Theology.

Whatever, I don't think so but even if you think that way, my example about SHS still works.

So basically, holy scriptures>Roa>Root? This is even getting worse.

No. It would mean that SHS is also a part of the Root and a way to counter the problem that Roa's soul was posing in the grand scheme of things. You could think of it as an indirect way to portray the will of the Root to return things to their normal state. After all, it is the source and the end of all things and phenomena.

 

[Maxeez]

Nasuverse base universe can still reach High 1-C tho.
Planet and moon = 8D or even 9D if the upgrade are successful lol
Infinite Planet= 9D or 10D
Infinite Number of Universe= 10D or 11D

Mind explaining this ?

 

[Tdjwo]

3 controversial threads, that's enough to make any of us and the mods be like "yeah no, stop it"

Because they kept nukingg the thread for no good reason other than "NoN-Euclidean is nothing" despite that being an irrelevant part of the thread or Root is 「　」 despite being contradictory.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Mind explaining this ?

How did you not understand this?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Because they kept nukingg the thread for no good reason other than "NoN-Euclidean is nothing" despite that being an irrelevant part of the thread or Root is 「　」 despite being contradictory.

My point still stand regardless, so mindly let this go and move on

 

[Maxeez]

How did you not understand this?

Not the part about the cosmology, but rather the tiering part.
It'd be weird if no one attempted such an upgrade if it was that simple ; but again, it could just be because of a lack of really active verse members

 

[Tdjwo]

Whatever, I don't think so but even if you think that way, my example about SHS still works.

No. It would mean that SHS is also a part of the Root and a way to counter the problem that Roa's soul was posing in the grand scheme of things. You could think of it as an indirect way to portray the will of the Root to return things to their normal state. After all, it is the source and the end of all things and phenomena.

So why does the root need the actions from the holy scripture before permanently killing Roa if everything supposedly originated from it? The holy scripture is just one of the many immortality negating objects in the verse which all originated from the Root yet the root can't erase Roa by itself while holy scriptures can? That sounds ridiculous.

 

[Tdjwo]

My point still stand regardless, so mindly let this go and move on

My point stands as well. But nvm.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

W

Not the part about the cosmology, but rather the tiering part.
It'd be weird if no one attempted such an upgrade if it was that simple ; but again, it could just be because of a lack of really active verse members

Well, like you just said.

This is just the cosmology and no one scale to it lol. Making the verse supporters lazy making CRT like this.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

W

Well, like you just said.

This is just the cosmology and no one scale to it lol. Making the verse supporters lazy making CRT like this.

types would scale to the planet

 

[Maxeez]

So why does the root need the actions from the holy scripture before permanently killing Roa if everything supposedly originated from it? The holy scripture is just one of the many immortality negating objects in the verse which all originated from the Root yet the root can't erase Roa by itself while holy scriptures can? That sounds ridiculous.

Maybe because the erasure of souls system didn't need to be that complicated since no one is able to survive from it in the first place ?
Shiki could also destroy his soul since she directly gets her hax from the Root, just like SHS. It's just that there was no need for such a powerful thing to simply erase souls in the cycle of life. There are maybe issues in how Roa's soul is being handled here, but to be honest I can't be bothered in searching if and how it's really the case.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Maybe because the erasure of souls system didn't need to be that complicated since no one is able to survive from it in the first place ?
Shiki could also destroy his soul since she directly gets her hax from the Root, just like SHS. It's just that there was no need for such a powerful thing to simply erase souls in the cycle of life. There are maybe issues in how Roa's soul is being handled here, but to be honest I can't be bothered in searching if and how it's really the case.

thats really just conjecture, its easier to say that the root isnt apophatic

 

[Tdjwo]

thats really just conjecture, its easier to say that the root isnt apophatic

Fr. If the root has limits to what it can do, then it's not apophatic. Simple as that.

 

[Maxeez]

W

Well, like you just said.

This is just the cosmology and no one scale to it lol. Making the verse supporters lazy making CRT like this.

I think only Spishtar has a "Low 2-C" feat iirc.

 

[Maxeez]

thats really just conjecture, its easier to say that the root isnt apophatic.

Which is why I said that

There are maybe issues in how Roa's soul is being handled here, but to be honest I can't be bothered in searching if and how it's really the case.

And as I said earlier it's not nearly like he "reached" it or anything.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

types would scale to the planet

I mean the greater universe and the infinite number of them

 

[Maxeez]

I mean the greater universe and the infinite number of them

Well, before the tier 1 revisions the MoonCell was 2-A due to scaling off of the infinite amount of universes, so who knows ?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Well, before the tier 1 revisions the MoonCell was 2-A due to scaling off of the infinite amount of universes, so who knows ?

The greater universe have at least 10D if the mooncell upgraded or 9D if not, because they have infinite number of them.
If the planets in servantverse is 9D, Isthar can reach High 1-C by these cosmology upgrade

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[Violatas]

Do you know how hard everyone is trying to nuke dimensional theory ratings now? I can't even support it anymore. I personally agree the root by itself should still be 1A because if it's above binary system while being above dimensional theory, then it's a pretty solid 1A tier. But no one cares about Nasuverse on this site. Not even the staff for the verse

Half true Ig? Nasuverse technically has a LOT of supporters actually. Depending on how big a CRT is, you'll see lots of people responding. Its also one of the hardest verses to get anything approved for given all the mixed views on everything.

I will say though: yeah, the staff supporters aren't particularly active, which is another reason CRTs take forever to go through or get any attention.
At least this isn't a dead verse on the site (and won't be any time soon), which I can think of some that are.

 

[Tdjwo]

Half true Ig? Nasuverse technically has a LOT of supporters actually. Depending on how big a CRT is, you'll see lots of people responding. Its also one of the hardest verses to get anything approved for given all the mixed views on everything.

I will say though: yeah, the staff supporters aren't particularly active, which is another reason CRTs take forever to go through or get any attention.
At least this isn't a dead verse on the site (and won't be any time soon), which I can think of some that are.

Nasuverse does have a lot of supporters and I agree. But the staff members are non existent. What's the point of having members if there's only one staff and if the staff disagrees with whatever, the amount of members they agree becomes irrelevant. It's the members that carry Nasuverse. Not the staff. There's only one staff and he's pretty non existent to the verse.