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Nasuverse Discussion Board 20
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Oh, I see. Let me check on thatPaul Frank said:
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Domina Corona?
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Spiritrons are something to do with the soul right?
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Spiritrons is the stuff that makes up your soul.
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Cool, planetary+ soul absorption for Goetia
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Why the +?
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Just my way of saying more than planetary. Because when most people here think planetary soul hax, they think 6 or 7 billion souls worth.
Seeing as Goetia's stretches back 3000 years and includes all life not just humans, it's more than that.
Seeing as Goetia's stretches back 3000 years and includes all life not just humans, it's more than that.
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Yeah, his exact method is a second, then a minute, then an hour, then a day, then a month, etc. back into the path. Soul hax for every human and animal that has ever been alive
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When and why was 10 Crowns removed from Goetia's profile?
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Okay, so I know I should know this, but what's the difference between magic and magecraft again?
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The easy version is anyone can train to learn magecraft but true magics are only obtainable from reaching the root or having it passed down
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Alright. And those such as Medea can use Magic because they learned it from divine sources or something?
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No those such as Medea use magecraft from the age of gods which is more powerful than modern magecraft but weaker than magic
Magicians are those such as Zelretch and Aoko who have one of the 5 true magics
Magicians are those such as Zelretch and Aoko who have one of the 5 true magics
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Everything Medea pulls off is Magecraft, but Magecraft beyond the ability of anyone in the modern age to pull off. The main difference according to Nasu himself is that everything you achieve with magecraft, someone else could without it given enough time and resources.
What you achieve with magic, however, never could and can only be described as impossible miracles. That's why we have things like the first magic that, if what we know is true, would disregard the law of conservation of mass, the second magic which allows interfering with parallel worlds, and the third magic which allows the soul to materialize and exist without a physical vessel like a body when normally it would dissipate and be absorbed by the Root.
What you achieve with magic, however, never could and can only be described as impossible miracles. That's why we have things like the first magic that, if what we know is true, would disregard the law of conservation of mass, the second magic which allows interfering with parallel worlds, and the third magic which allows the soul to materialize and exist without a physical vessel like a body when normally it would dissipate and be absorbed by the Root.
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You get to the root by being a magus, and everyone who is a magician so far has also been a magus, so I mean....
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Was Aoko even a magus beforehand?
Touko was being trained as the successor for the 5th magic iirc
Touko was being trained as the successor for the 5th magic iirc
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If the dino has been alive long enough it might have accumulated mystery
Lugh Beowulf was able to accumulate 3000 years worth of mystery for instance
Lugh Beowulf was able to accumulate 3000 years worth of mystery for instance
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I'm pretty sure that the dinosaurs in Nasuverse are Phantasmal Beasts. Quetz summons a Quetz for her NP.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Quetzalcoatl_(Noble_Phantasm)
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Quetzalcoatl_(Noble_Phantasm)
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It just got renamed to the NA localization version.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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@Ramses
Ah I see.
Ah I see.
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Anyway, is there anyone who contests updating the description of 10 Crowns, or whatever the current name of it is? We seem to be in agreement over it
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I'm fine with it
Also do you guys think Ryougi Shiki vs Shigeo Kageyama's 9-A key would be a good fight
Also do you guys think Ryougi Shiki vs Shigeo Kageyama's 9-A key would be a good fight
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It would certainly be interesting
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That's because the Queztalcoatlt was an animal named after her.
And it's not a dinosaur btw
It is in Nasuverse.
It is in Nasuverse.
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She knows how to use magecraft. The whole story of Mahojo is her kicking ass before getting the 5th Magic at the near end of the visual novel. But she's just good at destroying things.Paul Frank said:
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Makes sense
I made a match btw if anyone wants to check it out https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2959496
I made a match btw if anyone wants to check it out https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2959496
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I don't like adding speculation to profiles. Goetia's Ten Crowns could have different effects compared to BB's, just like how Tiamat's Potnia Theron has different abilities compared to BB's.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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Its not speculation. Literally every other usage of Ten Crowns we have seen has been the same but just of varying potency. When we see other servants with the same skills, even if they do not have a description, we use the same description we already know. Hell, at the very worst, we just put a Likely. We have seen other uses of 10 Crowns, and they have been the same. It is more speculative to assume it would be different
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We don't know, so why put what is essentially guesses on the profile meant to try to indicate relevant, factual info about a character? Why do the guesswork now rather than wait for better clarification?
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We could say "possibly" or "likely"
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We do know, and we are not guessing what the power is, it is a fact that he has Ten Crowns. Every single other usage of the skill has been the same, so it is more fallacious to assume it would be any different. This is a fact. When other servants are listed to have the same skill as another even without description, we know it is the same. Also, what clarification would you be waiting for exactly?
At the very worst, we just put Possibly or Likely, but this has more grounding than half of the not directly stated stuff on this wiki. Unless you want to be fundamentalist about this and refuse to accept anything that is not written word for word on the page, then there is no reason to think it would be any different.
At the very worst, we just put Possibly or Likely, but this has more grounding than half of the not directly stated stuff on this wiki. Unless you want to be fundamentalist about this and refuse to accept anything that is not written word for word on the page, then there is no reason to think it would be any different.
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