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Back before CCC got localized I could see why tbh, but the english translations pretty much make the meaning of the statements clear as polished crystal.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Then you get statements that the scale of existence or whatever of Kiara in FGO is not the same as CCC, I just don't see that being a thing.
They're not. CCC Kiara almost became a True Demon/something on par with Saver, while FGO Kiara became a Beast and is explicitly below CCC Kiara in mats. She only has an anti-Saver skill that he can't counter.

Nega Saver A

The fate of the beast who tried to bring salvation only to her own world, while possessing the qualifications to be a messiah (Saver).

Every skill possessed by the Saver and Ruler class is nullified, targets with magic stat not exceeding A rank are charmed with a 300% probability and the effect of buffs cast by Kiara are increased by 200%.

Although the scale of the existence of the Pleasure Deva that was born once on the moon is superior to Beast III, they say that she had no choice but to withdraw when faced with a messiah since she did not possess this skill.
 
We don't have them anywhere really. The strength is gonna vary with the species with Dragon being at the top in general. Then its gonna vary by the class, as a Monstrous rank is not the same as a phantasmal rank, which is not the same as Divine. You could put an "average" level for Phantasmal Rank due to Rider's Pegasus.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Then you get statements that the scale of existence or whatever of Kiara in FGO is not the same as CCC, I just don't see that being a thing.
Only 1 of those even exists and it's from a reddit translation of the material books, which are less reliable than the game itself for obvious reasons
 
Only 1 of those even exists and it's from a reddit translation of the material books, which are less reliable than the game itself for obvious reasons

Since when are translations of materials less reliable than the game when the purpose of materials is to expand on information given in game? Is this another baseless claim because you don't like mats or what?
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Key words

"Reddit Translation of" materials.

Also let's not go throwing around appeal to motive fallacies
Doesn't change the point when there are no official English mats and the fact that there is no reason to assume capable fan translators are unreliable. So again, what is the point of saying a meaningless statement as if it's true?
 
Mats are literally less reliable than the game for a lot of the same reasons as to why we don't accept the star level Boros/Saitama guidebook statements or the multiversal Godzilla author statements. If the source material and some outside source contradict each other then the source material is always prioritized over the outside source. It's a similar deal here, the mats stated III/R was below CCC Kiara even though the entire event tells you the opposite. Mats are, of course, fine when they don't contradict anything though.
 
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