Well, his bombs wounded CS2 Sasuke.
For these arcs... Asuma, Hidan and Kakuzu. Kakuzu scales above Kakashi, Hidan could trade blows with Kakashi, and Asuma could decapitate Hidan with his chakra blade, although he also scales to Part I Kakashi so... that’s kinda weird.
Idk about this one chief, seems kinda sus ngl.
I feel like we have one of two options, well maybe 3.
Nevermind then.
I have no idea why Part 2 Asuma scales to Part 1 Kakashi. That makes 0 sense.
How come?
Doesn't he always use the chakra blade?
Idk about that. Part 1 could block Kisame, part 2 could fight Hidan n Kakuzu. Seems consistent.
I meant separate his AP with the blades and his physicals, but the more I think about it the more I realize it's unnecessary tbh. Granted, we know the Futon chakra DOES enhance his AP, at least a little.
Could you post a scan of that please? I could use a refresher on that. In any case, Kisame has feats that put him significantly above Hidan and Kakuzu, so I'm unsure if it will be all that consistent.
Good point. Attack Potency: Whatever level. Higher w/ Futon chakra blades.
Part 1, Kisame and Itachi stroll, Kisame swings his blade, Asuma catches it without enhancing it with chakra. Please note, Might Guy couldn't do this in Part 2 to a 30% Kisame. I doubt the Akatsuki train, so that is a good ass feat.
Yugito has no feats outside of reanimation where they were supposedly boosted.
Alright, bet. glad we agree on that then.
Huh.........Yeah, okay that's pretty solid. He held him down for a decent amount of time too. Very interesting.
Eh, I’m sure this is what you meant, but better wording would’ve been ‘strength doesn’t always mean AP.’
Asuma once said to Naruto when two shinobi of equal abilities face each other with blades, the sharper blade decides the outcome. I'd just say he had a sharper blade.
Thanks for clarifying it for me before 20 different people say "BUT WHAT ABOUT" lmao
Asuma is (next to Kurenai) the most underrated named Jonin in Konoha. It goes like this.
He sure did lol. Still, his feats against Hidan and Kisame warrant that he be at least scaled slightly below them physically, and higher with the Wind Chakra Blade.
Do you think Shikamaru should scale to Hidan with his Shadow Possession Jutsu? Correctly me if I'm wrong, but he also stabbed him with it right?
To his durability? Definitely. To his AP? I have no idea.
Why would Hidan's AP be different from his durability? He's a purely physical melee fighter. (Aside from the ritual hax of course)
Yeah outside of reanimation Yugito has no feats, but she was fully transformed into the Two Tails when she hit Kakuzu.
Two Tails has no feats outside of reanimation either.
It's the Two Tails so it should be at least comparable or stronger than the One Tail who is the weakest Tailed Beast and Kakuzu took a hit from it and then off screened it with help from Hidan.
I think the characters mean that Naruto with rasenshuriken has higher AP than Minato, imo. However every other aspect of being a ninja and a fighter, Minato is better.
The Two Tails should at least be in the same ball park as the other tailed beasts otherwise narratively it wouldn't make any sense.
Kurama is the exception, not the rule. Another bijuu tells him to stop saying it because it's not true, and with Shukaku agreeing, that proves that Kurama's one sided standpoint has no weight throughout the bijuu. He is the outlier data of the group. If Shukaku trains and gets stronger, would the other bijuu get stronger too all because of that law?
That's like saying the 8 tails should be comparable to the 9 tails, and that means that since the 3rd Raikage had no injuries against the 8 tails, he should be able to stand with the 9th.
I agree with Kurenai being extremely underrated. We have her at 8-B, GENIN LEVEL, for God’s sake. Anko also has this problem but she is weaker than the elite jōnin like Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai.
Shukaku unironically has better feats than all of the other Bijuu except Gyūki and Kurama so yeah lol.
Pre-War Two-Tails has zero feats except overpowering Kakuzu with effort.
Don't refer to the old profiles, they're getting revised via these threads. And we'll discuss that when we get to the war arc.
Aside from the Six Paths amp, they don't have feats or statements to grant them the War Arc Tier. Also, they got beaten by regular Akatsuki members (Note that Bijus during the war almost killed KCM Naruto and implied to be > Kakashi and Guy). The difference is big.
Like M3X said, their feats pre-war arc are really bad compared to what they achieved in the war arc.
I believe when this was first brought up, we said that it wasn’t the Bijuu themselves that got amped, it was the jinchūriki transforming into the Bijuu. The actual whole Bijuu would be 6-C while it’s the jinchūriki transforming into Bijuu Mode that are amped. Although Isobu was stated to be weaker with no jinchūriki so...
Alright bet, sounds good to me!
True, but he didn't have a Jinchūriki against Madara as well.
Good point, and actually now that I think about it, it wasn't even really Shukaku but rather Shukaku taking control of the giant sand avatar Gaara created.
I'm not sure if that's how it works, but it actually makes a lot of sense.
