"I debunked all the physical feats you brought up. You have yet to reply to even a single word of what I said in that post"
You didn't actually do this. And I have responded to everything you've said above in response to me. If I didn't catch something, quote it and i'll respond, but i'm sure I've addressed all of your responses.
"Are we reading the same thing? Chidori Kusanagi is a legit jutsu Sasuke has, that is stated to amplify the piercing power of Sasuke's sword several times over. Said jutsu doesn't scale to Base Naruto at all, it is strong enough to harm even a serious SPSM Naruto"
This exact same scan proves what I said, he's not holding his sword, it's a Lightning Blade he created, not his Kusanagi blade amped with lightning. This was
one of the 5-B feats for Sasuke that I posted that you claim doesn't exist and it does scale to Base Naruto.
"There is a sore lack of relevant-to-the-discussion arguments in the wall of text. I only highlight the important things, not irrelevant verbose."
That stuff you claim is irrelevant is proof backing my claim which you are ignoring. You can't dismiss proof without proof of your own.
"Can you at least read what I said correctly before jumping withou understanding a single word? I said he needs his Rinnegan in order to channel his Six Paths chakra. This is undeniable."
Kep, the same scan you are saying this about proves you wrong. You claim Sasuke can only channel Six Paths Chakra with his Rinnegan and this is false as he proceeds
on panel to channel Six Paths Chakra into a Chidori while saying such. Sasuke can only use Mangekyo Abilities and Rinnegan Abilities with his Rinnegan. I.E:
Not amping a Chidori, this has never been the case within the series and thus this is proven false. Sasuke's feats posted above prove this.
"I'm waiting for the post I made debunking them to get a reply from you instead of a handwave."
Again, I addressed everything you said, you may want to look above incase you missed something.
"What about Six Paths Chibaku Tensei? That feat is not physical either. Seems like you misunderstood my whole argument, again."
No, the misunderstanding is on your part. You claim Sasuke cannot use SIX Paths Chakra without his Rinnegan when his Rinnegan only allows him to use several abilities at the time of this fight, the only ones relevant of which are:
The notion that Sasuke can only use SPC through his Rinnegan was proven false in scans above in this thread. SPCT being one of several feats proving he's 5-B outside of Rinnegan abilities with his Ninjutsu. Not even talking physically here, but I proved that as well above which still has yet to recieve a response.
"Next time check the actual chapter before jumping on what I say instantly."
The databook only states Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan from Hagoromo. This scans proves nothing.
- Indra+Ashura Chakra = Rinnegan Awakens
- Indra Alone =/= Rinnegan Awakens.
- SPC Alone =/= Rinnegan Awakening (Obito/Kakashi/Naruto as Proof) and Obito especially proves you wrong here as he is a direct descendant of Indra being an Uchiha. Thus, like Naruto with SPSM, the proof leads to the Rinnegan being a gift from Hags. Nothing more. This is based on facts and it still doesn't prove Sasuke needs Rinnegan to channel his SPC, which again was proved false above.
" "Kicking the Truth-Seeking Ball! Exceeding the Kurama Mode, a feat accomplished by a huge chakra" - Debunked."
Again, Base Naruto was gifted SPC and SPSM is a separate thing given to him. Yes, SPSM Naruto here has a "Huge Chakra" because Naruto overall has a Huge Chakra after gaining SPC.
Again, This is what is literally stated about SPSM:
"From the ancestor of shinobi, a divine state is gifted, touching the principles of all creation, commanding all things in nature
The qualities for obtaining this technique are strict studying and using a small gist in chakra kneading sensibility. An iron faith to face any hardship and the guts to never give up. Furthermore, the returning incarnation and fate's guidance ― this power is granted by the Sage of Six Paths only to someone who holds those.
Those who activate the technique come to understand the flow of all life, gain a deep insight at the world's origins and are able to apply it on interacting allies without changing the way of things. This technique isn't something shinobi choose to experience. It is a technique that chooses shinobi."
Nowhere does it state in it's desciption about containing SPC or allowing the user to channel SPC and again,
Sasuke being able to Use SPC outside of Rinnegan and Mangekyo Abilities proves the point, SPSM has nothing to do with SPC, same as the Rinnegan. And it's extremely misleading to try and use thisn when the databook doesn't even cover the last 10 chapters with NAruto and Sasuke's Final fight. So it's not debunked, only enhanced.
"The claim that Post-Hags Naruto is 5-B outside of SPSM has nothing backing it up."
- SPSM has Nothing to do with SPC (Proven)
- Base Naruto can physically contend with Sasuke and Momoshiki (Both of whom have 5-B Physicals through multiple feats which is proven)
- Base Naruto's Ninjutsu AP > Momoshiki's Physical 5-B Durability.
So, this notion it has nothing backing it up is quite false.
"Wait, so Six Paths Sage Mode is said to exceed Naruto with half of Kurama's Chakra and to have huge chakra, but it's irrelevant despite your claim that SPSM Naruto is not any stronger than Base Naruto?"
Reread my arguments, you are miscontruing them.
"I don't need to debunk something that is baseless aside from your own opinion. This is blatant reversal of the burden of proof. Even then, I've already done it in the post you replied to anyway."
You do have to because nothing I said was baseless and had plenty of proof backing it up. Proof you chose to ignore with baseless reasoning and you haven't actually debunked anything yet.
"Is Toneri stronger than Momoshiki?"
Yes. He's > Base Naruto and can fight KCSM Naruto who is 10x stronger with SM.
"Check above."
I did, nothing has changed.
