I would find it strange if all of these were said in the manga. Like, there's no narrator, the character would say "my attack can reach the speed of light"?? It would look extremely weird. The Databook works better, as its function is to provide more detailed information. And in the novels, the narrator passes on this information, so it gets better.
My interpretation is that the transference style is also directly responsible for this, as it sort of "dematerializes" the targets. I say that this has more to do with the person's habit of traveling at this speed than durability itself, Because you see, technically every ninja is more resistant than objects, but they are torn apart but any other non-living object is not. I see this more as a transfer style problem.
Right, the jutsu does appear to treat living beings and material objects differently. However, nevertheless, Mabui states (and the databooks state this too) that the only issue with transporting a person is that the speed is too fast for the body to keep up. There's zero implication that it's a deconstruction thing. Furthermore, durability wouldn't play any part in making you tank decon.
However, the quiz book only says that it is not possible for a person to withstand the shock of the transfer, unless they have a strong body, it does not talk about speed itself. Even though speed also has some influence on this, the transfer method is also one of the reasons.
Exactly, it's probably a question of the method itself. And anyway, I haven't thought of a scale where characters weaker than the base Raikage scale in any way. The Raikage himself has a statement of being comparable to Minato in speed only at Yoroi level 1.
Then that would mean the transportation jutsu has no bearing on combat speed. Only long distance transportation would be capped.
It's because of the speed, it's explicitly because of the speed of living beings, it's just outright stated.
which makes sense because its a reference to a popular science fiction trope of teleporting humans the people coming out as grilled meat on the other wise lol
It is stated in the fourth Databook, while in the quiz book it sounds more in relation to the transfer charge, the method itself. What I meant was it could be not just the speed, but also other factors, as we have Haku, who is not more durable than the Base Raikage, but can move at that speed.
It's stated that it's possible for Haku to move at the speed of light, not that they always do.
I don't believe Mabui's jutsu supports or discredits lightspeed Ay metas. I wouldn't call it support, but yes we do know Ay's body is capable of moving at light speeds without harm.
I don't think anyone is saying base Ay caps the verse per se. Anyone who's base Ay durability level or higher is unaffected by this.
It could be interpreted in a lot of ways, like:
how do you guys interpret this statement? Specifically the "Claw Grimes that wield the Ten Tails' power"
Yeah very doubtful especially considering they don't ever even show any abilities of the Juubi all they do is bite you and absorb ur chakra turning you into a tree, vaguely similar to the Juubi, but that's about it.
Naturally I dont think they're individually as strong as the Juubi itself, but rather theyre collectively as strong/relative as the Juubi, as an army. Since the quote mentions "power", which obviously refers to AP, do you think it's a fair interpretation to say that their AP should narratively be lower than the Juubi's for the statement to hold true? And if the Claw Grimes' AP happens to be higher, it'd contradict the statement?
Not sure, honestly I think it just depends on what you think is narratively consistent, I think the only way we can directly scale a Claw Grime to a Juubi is if they defeat someone on that level, or if all of their combined chakra gets a statement like that.
No. Look at it like a venn diagram. They have the power of ten tails, but that's not all they have. They obviously have Code's claw marks so they don't just collectively add up to only the ten tails. Realistically speaking, yeah, the wording seems to imply that ten tails power is what's special about them, so they should be weaker than one ten tails. But if ever there is a situation that contradicts this, it can easily be argued that Code's karma enhanced them, which also happened to the Shinju and was stated by Boruto. So I disagree with a cap like that.
So what about say individually? Would you say that one Grime would be weaker than the Juubi? Is there anything narratively that's stopping one Grime from being stronger than the Juubi? Or do you think bc of Code's chakra, for all we know one Grime could be stronger than the Juubi?
As things stand currently, yes. They are being cut through like butter and the best feat they have got is catching base Kawaki off guard. Someone who is known to not train anything other than his Karma.
There is no hard cap but it will become a bit hard to believe. For example the Shinju are explicitly stated to be: Host + Code's Karma + Juubi Chakra. So them being stronger than any of their "sources" is not that hard to believe. But the Grimes on the other hand are:
I think a TLDR is due on my part. I believe there is no logical cap on the Grimes power (as far as I can remember that is). But currently, realistically, they should be weaker than one Juubi because any external sources than we can think of are only implications. We don't have statements that say the Grimes were enhanced AP wise by Code's Karma like we have for the Shinju. We only induce that because the Grimes can travel though claw marks.
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What was the reasoning for scaling them higher than the Juubi? Also by Juubi, do you mean the one from 4GNW.
boruto anime scaling + multipliers
Yeah. All this time I was yapping about the Juubi from Kara. I should have mentioned that I guess.
that's totally my bad lol
im gonna axe the anime
Np
Yeah. It all depends on how they perform for sure. Although you could infer abductively that Kara Jubi < 4GNW Jubi from the "Juvenile" statement, but that only works if the Grime's feats are below that of 4GNW Jubi.
Why I hate Juubi
1. I'm relatively fine with it being a speed cap for Sannin level and below (since that's Base A3/4's best dura assertion)
About lightning cloak in general
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