Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ehhh tbh I think you can interpret this as meaning Jonin Minato since it refers to his war time nickname and exploits during the 3rd War. Especially since it uses past tense pretty explicitly in the sentence calling him the Fourth Hokage.

ok we already agree on the SM Naruto not being FTL+ so I’m not going to bother commenting on what you said

 

[MinatoSparkle]

 

[Godernet]

Any Nard post Six Paths comfortably wins that imo

I feel like G5 Luffy vs KCM2 SM Nard is a good fight tho. Both in the Mid to high tier 6 metas with light speed arguments

Luffy is definitely faster here but I don’t see Luffy being able to put down Naruto before G5 runs out and Luffy’s just a crippled old man for a bit.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Naruto’s Rasengan progression is Crazy tbh…

1. Rasengan
2. Vermillion Rasengan
3. Odama Rasengan
4. Wind-Style Rasengan
5. FRS
6. FRS (Thrown)
7. Cho-Odama Rasengan
8. Rasengan Barrage
9. Multiple Cho Odama Rasengan Barrage
10. Multi-Rasengan Combo’s w/ Chakra Arms
11. Mini-FRS
12. Mini-TBB Rasengan
13. TBB
14. Super Charged TBB
15. Relentless TBB
16. FRS Barrage
17. Cho-Odama FRS
18. Cho-Cho Odama FRS
19. Lava Style FRS
20. Magnet Rasengan
21. Tailed Beast Bomb FRS
22. Tailed Beast Bomb FRS Barrage
23. Super Tailed Beast FRS
24. Cho-Cho Odama TBB/Rasengan Shuriken Barrage (Vs Indra Arrow)
25. Rasengan: Flash
26. Cho-Cho Odama Rasengan

Ichigo Could Never

 

[BlastX]

Naruto's strategy might always boil down to shoving a Rasengan up his opponents ass, but you can't say he didn't polish and improve on it.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Naruto's strategy might always boil down to shoving a Rasengan up his opponents ass, but you can't say he didn't polish and improve on it.

I wish Ichigo did shit like that with his Getsuga

 

[Westcoast5005]

I wish Ichigo did shit like that with his Getsuga

Gran ray cero getsuga was cold

 

[SlendVeny]

I think Luffy's tiered pretty accurately on this site, and I think Naruto's downplayed a bit for the sake of consistency. That said, I think the first point where Luffy actually loses is MAYBE 6 Paths Naruto, but he is definitely not getting past Momoshiki.

 

[SlendVeny]

Pretty lucky that the Jinchuuriki never rebelled. Imagine if those guys teamed up.

 

[Kayzz]

Any Nard post Six Paths comfortably wins that imo

I feel like G5 Luffy vs KCM2 SM Nard is a good fight tho. Both in the Mid to high tier 6 metas with light speed arguments

Luffy is definitely faster here but I don’t see Luffy being able to put down Naruto before G5 runs out and Luffy’s just a crippled old man for a bit.

Did G5 Luffy get a drop in powerscale or did Naruto's lower forms have a boost?

Honestly, we need to start rethinking Jonin and kage scaling in order to fit new Borutoverse scaling.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

his talking about his own scaling no whats accepted on the wiki

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I got aired

Edit: Oh nvm I found it in the 2nd DB

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The Yellow Flash of the Leaf

The absolutely inescapable light-speed blade, who fires off brilliant and radiant techniques on the battlefield. That dazzling title was once the common name of the Fourth Hokage.

How did you get plural for techniques? All the translators I put it through use singular, as if it's referring to FTG or smthn.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I got aired

Edit: Oh nvm I found it in the 2nd DB

its at the back in the kanji blurb

 

[HelloThere1089]

Considering how dumb the leaf villagers are, the Omnipotence switch probably doesn't even need the consistent effect that it has for most of the people.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

saw a terrible take on twitter about who the strongest characters were in each arc, so what i wanted to hear your guys thoughts.

who do you think the strongest character was in each arc (as in the characters that show up not the characters who were alive during the arc but just off screen)

 

[KingogKings777]

saw a terrible take on twitter about who the strongest characters were in each arc, so what i wanted to hear your guys thoughts.

who do you think the strongest character was in each arc (as in the characters that show up not the characters who were alive during the arc but just off screen)

Give us a list of the arcs?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

using the official naruto website.

1. Land of Waves
2. Chunin exams
3. destruction of the leaf
4. search for tsunade
5. Sasuke retrieval
6. Kazekage Rescue
7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc)
8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression)
9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc
10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc)
11. Five Kage Summit arc
12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together)
13. Ten Tails arc
14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

using the official naruto website.

1. Land of Waves

Hiruzen

2. Chunin exams

Hiruzen

3. destruction of the leaf

Hiruzen

4. search for tsunade

Either Manda or Orochimaru.

5. Sasuke retrieval

Orochimaru.

6. Kazekage Rescue

Pain was there as a projection, does that count?

7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc)

Four-Tails Naruto.

8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression)

Tsunade.

9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc

Pain.

10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc)

Eight Tails Naruto.

11. Five Kage Summit arc

Peak MS Sasuke.

12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together)

Madara.

13. Ten Tails arc

Madara unless he's included in the next arc, then it's Jūbito.

14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc.

Asura Avatar Naruto/Indra Susano'o Sasuke.

 

[KingogKings777]

using the official naruto website.

1. Land of Waves
2. Chunin exams
3. destruction of the leaf
4. search for tsunade
5. Sasuke retrieval
6. Kazekage Rescue
7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc)
8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression)
9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc
10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc)
11. Five Kage Summit arc
12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together)
13. Ten Tails arc
14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc.

1. Land of Waves Zabuza/Kakashi
2. Chunin exams Gaara/Neji
3. destruction of the leaf Orochimaru/Hiruzen
4. search for tsunade Itachi/Kisame
5. Sasuke retrieval Black Zetsu/Naruto
6. Kazekage Rescue Sasori/Kakashi
7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc) Naruto/Orochimaru
8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression) Shikimaru/Naruto
9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc Itachi/Pain
10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc) Pain/Naruto
11. Five Kage Summit arc Tobi/Sasuke
12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together) Naruto/Madara
13. Ten Tails arc Madara/Guy
14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc. Kaguya/Naruto/Sasuke

 

[HelloThere1089]

I really don't remember everyone who showed up in each arc but I guess
Land of waves: Kurama
Chunin exams: Hiruzen/Might Guy
Konoha crush: Hiruzen/Might Guy
Search for Tsunade: Itachi/Might Guy
Sasuke retrieval: Tsunade?/Might Guy
Kazekage rescue: I think Tobi?/Might Guy
Tenchi bridge: Kurama
Akatsuki suppression: Iirc, Kakuzu/Might Guy
Itachi pursuit: Tobi?
Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant: Pain
Fated Battle: Tobi
Pain Assault: Killer B/Might Guy
Five Kage Summit: Killer B
FGNW Countdown: Kurama/Might Guy
FGNW Confrontation: I think Madara/Might Guy
FGNW Climax: Jubito/Might Guy
Birth of Jubijin: Jubidara/Might Guy
Kaguya Otsutsuki strikes: Kaguya
I might end up being way off because of my memory but I gotta start somewhere.

 

[Raiden_Azno]

Where's the statement about a jonin using a LS technique?

He uses a knock off Raikiri.
Not even a scratch.” The prime minister looked up bitterly
at the mud wall.
“This wall is an Earth Style technique.” One of the
younger shinobi stepped forward. “Shinobi techniques all
have their affinities. That’s the best point of attack. The
weak point of Earth Style is Lightning Style.” The man’s
right hand crackled with electricity.
“What’s that technique?” the prime minister asked.
“Lightning Blade. A major jutsu of the Land of Fire, a
secret tradition. People still talk of
the Sixth Hokage
cutting lightning with it.” The shinobi smiled confidently
and stepped out toward the mud wall.
In general, Earth Style was seen as weak to Lightning
Style because the many impurities that existed in the earth
were good conductors for electricity.
“Please watch as I smash it with my Lightning Blade.”
Watching the shinobi’s movements from the watchtower,
Nanara panicked. “Kakashi! That guy’s trouble! He looks
like he’s going to use a seriously amazing technique!”
His tutor said nothing.
“Are you listening to me, Kakashi? It’s bad! We’re in
trouble!”Aah, be quiet.
Kakashi stared intently at the end point of the trajectory
that the man’s technique would likely follow. He followed
his enemy’s eyes to its target and concentrated his mind on
the point where the attack would likely hit.
The man released the jutsu.Crack! Crack!
Thunder roared, and the lightning attack hit the wall at
the speed of light. The shinobi no doubt thought the wall of
earth would crumble to dust when directly hit with
Lightning Style

 

[MinatoSparkle]

its at the back in the kanji blurb

Got it

using the official naruto website.

1. Land of Waves

Hiruzen, or if you wanna count the brief flashback, Minato (or Kurama if you count non shinobi, I'm not gonna mention him from now on though cause he "appears" in some capacity in most arcs and I don't wanna just list him again and again)

2. Chunin exams

Jiraiya/Orochimaru

3. destruction of the leaf

Orochimaru with Edos/Mentally Amped Hiruzen

4. search for tsunade

Itachi

5. Sasuke retrieval

Jiraiya/Tsunade (or Minato if you count the Kakashi Gaiden mini arc right after)

6. Kazekage Rescue

Obito

7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc)

Jiraiya/Tsunade

8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression)

I don't recall if Obito shows up, but if not then Itachi/Pain

9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc

Obito

10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc)

Pain (or Minato's spirit)

11. Five Kage Summit arc

Obito

12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together)

If this ends right before Juubito, then Hashirama. If you don't count flashbacks, it's a toss up between Edo Hashirama, Edo Madara, and KCM Minato

13. Ten Tails arc

Juubidara

14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc.

Kaguya or DMS Kakashi

He uses a knock off Raikiri.
Not even a scratch.” The prime minister looked up bitterly
at the mud wall.
“This wall is an Earth Style technique.” One of the
younger shinobi stepped forward. “Shinobi techniques all
have their affinities. That’s the best point of attack. The
weak point of Earth Style is Lightning Style.” The man’s
right hand crackled with electricity.
“What’s that technique?” the prime minister asked.
“Lightning Blade. A major jutsu of the Land of Fire, a
secret tradition. People still talk of
the Sixth Hokage
cutting lightning with it.” The shinobi smiled confidently
and stepped out toward the mud wall.
In general, Earth Style was seen as weak to Lightning
Style because the many impurities that existed in the earth
were good conductors for electricity.
“Please watch as I smash it with my Lightning Blade.”
Watching the shinobi’s movements from the watchtower,
Nanara panicked. “Kakashi! That guy’s trouble! He looks
like he’s going to use a seriously amazing technique!”
His tutor said nothing.
“Are you listening to me, Kakashi? It’s bad! We’re in
trouble!”Aah, be quiet.
Kakashi stared intently at the end point of the trajectory
that the man’s technique would likely follow. He followed
his enemy’s eyes to its target and concentrated his mind on
the point where the attack would likely hit.
The man released the jutsu.Crack! Crack!
Thunder roared, and the lightning attack hit the wall at
the speed of light. The shinobi no doubt thought the wall of
earth would crumble to dust when directly hit with
Lightning Style

Do you have like the actual page or page number? Also what novel is it exactly?

 

[Raiden_Azno]

Idk if I agree with FTL+ SM Naruto. Given that KCM > SM, and excluding his body flicker technique, KCM Naruto was more or less very relative to lightning cloak Ay, who if you’re decently charitable with is like hovering around light speed. And idk if I really agree with FTL+ Luffy either given that Kizaru can be pretty competitive with Luffy and Kizaru just blatantly uses light speed attacks.

The Raikage infamous databook statement is a simile and it doesn't put his speed anywhere, meaning that boi very fast. He'd just upscale tbh. However for both verse there are various meta's of speed.

 

[Raiden_Azno]

Do you have like the actual page or page number? Also what novel is it exactly?

It's the kakashi Novel. However I do not have the page number.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I hope you know hyperbolic language, like metaphors, can exist without like as simile. Idk why you think Ay’s is hyperbolic while holding the position this must be literal.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It's the kakashi Novel. However I do not have the page number.

The one that's in the Boruto era?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Man Preliminaries Naruto is ass

Weaker than Preliminaries Sasuke/Weighted Lee, and only several times stronger than a normal fall Throughout Heaven and Earth, Naruto alone is the 9-C one (apparently the Chinese version just says several times greater than a normal strike tho, so might not be such an antifeat)

 

[KingogKings777]

Got it

Where in the second DB is this from? Like page number?

 

[SlendVeny]

using the official naruto website.

1. Land of Waves

If the Prologue is included, Kurama.

2. Chunin exams

Orochimaru

3. destruction of the leaf

Shukaku

4. search for tsunade

Manda

5. Sasuke retrieval

Orochimaru

6. Kazekage Rescue

Shukaku again.

7. Long awaited Reunion arc ( Tenchi bridge arc)

Orochimaru, considering Sasuke had to wait for him to grow weaker before he decided to fight him. MAYBE KN4 Naruto, he did pretty good.

8.Immortal Devastators arc (akatsuki suppression)

Obito

9. Master Prophecy and Vengeance arc

Pain

10. Two Saviors arc (Pain assault arc)

KN8 Naruto

11. Five Kage Summit arc

Obito

12. Fourth great ninja war (theres technically 3 arcs split between the confrontation,conflict and climax but for the sake of brevity we smudge them together)

Madara

13. Ten Tails arc

Juubidara

14. kaguya Otsutsuki strikes arc.

Post-Kaguya Fight Naruto

 

[Raiden_Azno]

I hope you know hyperbolic language, like metaphors, can exist without like as simile. Idk why you think Ay’s is hyperbolic while holding the position this must be literal

Why is it in this case? Plus I think Ay is much faster than light considering he does the attack in base then Naruto out runs a several times faster attack. Not to mention a SM clone literally compares the two and reacts to him in a lesser form as you said.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Dam why is no one saying Itachi for Search for Tsunade?

Where in the second DB is this from? Like page number?

305. Also this is the kanji
木ノ葉の黄色い閃光●絶対不可避の光速の刃、戦場にて煌々と輝きを放つ術・技。呟きその名は、四代目火影のかつての通り名だ。

 

[KingogKings777]

Dam why is no one saying Itachi for Search for Tsunade?

305. Also this is the kanji
木ノ葉の黄色い閃光●絶対不可避の光速の刃、戦場にて煌々と輝きを放つ術・技。呟きその名は、四代目火影のかつての通り名だ。

Mine only goes up to 285 dang it. Why did it not have it completed!!!!

 

[AnimesFreak2]

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[MinatoSparkle]

Mine only goes up to 285 dang it. Why did it not have it completed!!!!

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[HelloThere1089]

Dam why is no one saying Itachi for Search for Tsunade?

I really don't remember everyone who showed up in each arc but I guess
Land of waves: Kurama
Chunin exams: Hiruzen/Might Guy
Konoha crush: Hiruzen/Might Guy
Search for Tsunade: Itachi/Might Guy
Sasuke retrieval: Tsunade?/Might Guy
Kazekage rescue: I think Tobi?/Might Guy
Tenchi bridge: Kurama
Akatsuki suppression: Iirc, Kakuzu/Might Guy
Itachi pursuit: Tobi?
Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant: Pain
Fated Battle: Tobi
Pain Assault: Killer B/Might Guy
Five Kage Summit: Killer B
FGNW Countdown: Kurama/Might Guy
FGNW Confrontation: I think Madara/Might Guy
FGNW Climax: Jubito/Might Guy
Birth of Jubijin: Jubidara/Might Guy
Kaguya Otsutsuki strikes: Kaguya
I might end up being way off because of my memory but I gotta start somewhere.

 

[KingogKings777]

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Thanks what scan did you need from the kakashi ln? I own the official translation.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Thanks what scan did you need from the kakashi ln? I own the official translation.

This

He uses a knock off Raikiri.
Not even a scratch.” The prime minister looked up bitterly
at the mud wall.
“This wall is an Earth Style technique.” One of the
younger shinobi stepped forward. “Shinobi techniques all
have their affinities. That’s the best point of attack. The
weak point of Earth Style is Lightning Style.” The man’s
right hand crackled with electricity.
“What’s that technique?” the prime minister asked.
“Lightning Blade. A major jutsu of the Land of Fire, a
secret tradition. People still talk of
the Sixth Hokage
cutting lightning with it.” The shinobi smiled confidently
and stepped out toward the mud wall.
In general, Earth Style was seen as weak to Lightning
Style because the many impurities that existed in the earth
were good conductors for electricity.
“Please watch as I smash it with my Lightning Blade.”
Watching the shinobi’s movements from the watchtower,
Nanara panicked. “Kakashi! That guy’s trouble! He looks
like he’s going to use a seriously amazing technique!”
His tutor said nothing.
“Are you listening to me, Kakashi? It’s bad! We’re in
trouble!”Aah, be quiet.
Kakashi stared intently at the end point of the trajectory
that the man’s technique would likely follow. He followed
his enemy’s eyes to its target and concentrated his mind on
the point where the attack would likely hit.
The man released the jutsu.Crack! Crack!
Thunder roared, and the lightning attack hit the wall at
the speed of light. The shinobi no doubt thought the wall of
earth would crumble to dust when directly hit with
Lightning Style

 

[KingogKings777]

This