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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

AnimesFreak2 said:
Nah

War Arc Ay>>>5 Kage Summit A

And Sannin>>>5 Kage Summit Kage

Reasons? No I will not elaborate because it's almost time for me to sleep and I am lazy

Perhaps after I finally re-read the manga this summer
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I recall the good ol' days when I argued that too (maybe less the Sannin>>>FKS Gokage part, but I did have them above), but ion think that's very consistent overall
 
i think himawari has enough statements and implications to warrant a 6c to possibly 6b scaling. or what do y'all think. It also seems her regen surpasses even naruto.

apparently konohamaru has a new jutsu
 
So it seems Boruto sent a Clone to save Himawari and completely lapped Kawaki and Delta who had a head start…💀
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Boruto using a shadow clone is a pretty good counter to Kawaki's resonance. That's why I think the one flying towards Himawari is a shadow clone. Boruto soloing both Jura and Hidari at the same time would be crazy tho.

Edit: Wait, did Sarada get saved by Boruto again? Ain't no way...
 
Hold on, I see somewhere that Hidari's Rinnegan isn't good enough for a Chidori. I thought since Rinnegan is the evolution of Sharingan, it should have all of it's prior abilities. I guess not. Imagine if you can't even do gentle fist with a Tenseigan lol.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Hold on, I see somewhere that Hidari's Rinnegan isn't good enough for a Chidori. I thought since Rinnegan is the evolution of Sharingan, it should have all of it's prior abilities. I guess not. Imagine if you can't even do gentle fist with a Tenseigan lol.
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nah which is why Madara had to swap out his rinnegan for sharingan when he used his genjutsu. Rinnegan has its own visual senses but its not passive and requires the user to actually focus ( see Pain dodging Raikiri and seeing the barrier)
The Rinnegan's vision can also be obscured by smoke bombs and dust ect.

RinneSharingan is the only one that seems to share traits of both consistently
 
As far as we know, Indra was the first to awaken the Sharingan, it is not confirmed whether Hagoromo had it too. There is no confirmation in the manga itself, but in the Indra and Ashura arc in the anime it is mentioned by Hagoromo that Indra's Sharingan is derived from Kaguya's Rinnesharingan.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
It could be that the Shinju Rinnegan are a bit different, or that Rinnegan are better for Sharingan users. Could explain why Momo's Rinnegan was so different from the others.
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I have been arguing this on battleboards and reddit a lot. Just because Sasuke's rinnegan is immune to IT, doesn't mean that all otsutsuki with a rinnegan are automatically immune to genjutsu, let alone IT.
 
I can't see any Otsutsuki getting trapped in a genjutsu
I don't have any proof but I just feel they're immune to it
I mean, look at Omnipotence
 
Testarossa002 said:
I can't see any Otsutsuki getting trapped in a genjutsu
I don't have any proof but I just feel they're immune to it
I mean, look at Omnipotence
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Isn't that because it's a property of Omnipotence? I mean I get your point, but I was more talking about the logical connection of it. I don't have any issue if they are immune to it, just that the reasoning has to be valid.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
I have been arguing this on battleboards and reddit a lot. Just because Sasuke's rinnegan is immune to IT, doesn't mean that all otsutsuki with a rinnegan are automatically immune to genjutsu, let alone IT.
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The byakugan has resistance to genjutsu illusions though.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
I have been arguing this on battleboards and reddit a lot. Just because Sasuke's rinnegan is immune to IT, doesn't mean that all otsutsuki with a rinnegan are automatically immune to genjutsu, let alone IT.
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they cast IT in pairs. It just feels quite weird for otsusuki to not have resistance to it. they would just be caught under their own genjutsu. Also considering their immunity to omnipotence and how momo belittles all genjutsu compared to it i see no reason why it should work on them.
 
karo_senpaii said:
they cast IT in pairs. It just feels quite weird for otsusuki to not have resistance to it. they would just be caught under their own genjutsu. Also considering their immunity to omnipotence and how momo belittles all genjutsu compared to it i see no reason why it should work on them.
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That is not my point. The people I was arguing against were equalizing all Rinnegan. My argument is, just because Sasuke's Rinnegan is immune to IT, doesn't mean all Rinnegan are immune to IT. I have no issue if Otsutsuki are infact immune to it. I just don't agree with equalizing all abilities shown in every single variant of a Rinnegan.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
That is not my point. The people I was arguing against were equalizing all Rinnegan. My argument is, just because Sasuke's Rinnegan is immune to IT, doesn't mean all Rinnegan are immune to IT. I have no issue if Otsutsuki are infact immune to it. I just don't agree with equalizing all abilities shown in every single variant of a Rinnegan.
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the argument boils down to whether you believe six path chakra is something exclusive to kaguya and her line. If you do then momoshiki rinnengan won't exactly be six path enhanced. But if you believe six path power is from the 10tails and as such a form of otsusuki power then you'd be more inclined to believe an otsusuki rinnengan is automatically six path enhanced. Both believes have their merit and neither is a ridiculous argument
 
karo_senpaii said:
the argument boils down to whether you believe six path chakra is something exclusive to kaguya and her line. If you do then momoshiki rinnengan won't exactly be six path enhanced. But if you believe six path power is from the 10tails and as such a form of otsusuki power then you'd be more inclined to believe an otsusuki rinnengan is automatically six path enhanced. Both believes have their merit and neither is a ridiculous argument
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What evidence is there for Six paths == Otsutsuki? My stance on the matter is that an argument can't be made because of lack of evidence. I can't just believe anything for no reason. But maybe there is and I am forgetting. I will change my mind in that case.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
What evidence is there for Six paths == Otsutsuki? My stance on the matter is that an argument can't be made because of lack of evidence. I can't just believe anything for no reason. But maybe there is and I am forgetting. I will change my mind in that case.
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i didn't say six path== otsutsuki. i said six path= 10tails. I don't have to explain how this links other otsusuki. unless six path is something specifically from earth genetic make up but there is also no evidence for it. no one asked you to believe anything. you were confused as to why people thought otsusuki rinnengan = IT immunity. I explained their thought process
 
karo_senpaii said:
i didn't say six path== otsutsuki. i said six path= 10tails. I don't have to explain how this links other otsusuki. unless six path is something specifically from earth genetic make up but there is also no evidence for it.
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My bad. I miss typed. What is the reason some people believe six paths = 10 tails.
karo_senpaii said:
no one asked you to believe anything.
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Damn. I never said you asked me to believe anything. I just told you my stance and was hoping you could fill me in on what their argument is, i.e, why they believe six paths == 10 tails. I thought that's why you replied to me. Like I said, it's been a while since I have watched the show, so maybe I am forgetting stuff.
karo_senpaii said:
you were confused as to why people thought otsusuki rinnengan = IT immunity. I explained their thought process
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Yes. Explain it further if you don't mind. Or don't if you don't want to.
 
Testarossa002 said:
I don't have any proof but I just feel they're immune to it
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We even opened a CRT about this, but it didn't work out.

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Hashirama and Otsutsuki's Mind Manipulation Resistance

Madara's intention is to take Hashirama's cells from him, and for this he needs to bite him and draw blood from him. If Madara's genjutsu had worked on Hashirama, he could have done it much more easily without fighting him. Therefore, Hashirama's mind manipulation resistance must be at least as...
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So basically, Kishimoto’s “fix” for why Konohamaru and Sarada could React/Counter/Defend against Hidari’s Chidori is because he ain’t good at it w/o Sharingan and was holding back?
 
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