Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Padaruyos]

I think Naruto got off guarded when Kawaki sealed him. Compared to the battle with Isshiki where either Isshiki didn't give a shit and just mess around (bro used Sasuke as a surfboard), or he was incapable of sealing due to BM Naruto being too fast, dude is straight up faster than his Sharingan/SPSM speed blitzing rods.

 

[Avengershows]

I think Naruto got off guarded when Kawaki sealed him. Compared to the battle with Isshiki where either Isshiki didn't give a shit and just mess around (bro used Sasuke as a surfboard), or he was incapable of sealing due to BM Naruto being too fast, dude is straight up faster than his Sharingan/SPSM speed blitzing rods.

That is true, as I've said, Boruto also reacted to Kawaki trying to seal him away.
In the context of the Kaguya fight, it'd be a 100% viable way of Isshiki dealing with her

 

[Nierre]

I think Naruto got off guarded when Kawaki sealed him

Definitely lol

 

[HelloThere1089]

We can see him in one of the panels try to grab Naruto, so it could very well be that.
After that, Naruto just starts beating him up. And Isshiki was pretty enraged too, and acting relatively irrationally, especially given the fact that his lifespan kept shrinking.
Plus, we do see that portal sealing does require quite a bit of speed to actually do given that Boruto could react to it and counter it.

I think you don't get how busted Daikokuten actually is. Any logical person who has it would lead with it.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

The Divine Tree's only absorb the chakra of the life on the planet, not the entire planets chakra. Though you could argue that the anime keys would add kinetic energy to the equation since in the Hagoromo filler they mention that the natural energy was being drained from the planet

I am sure that the God Tree absorbs all the chakra including the planets or else there is no need for a planet to have chakra if its only the chakra of the life on that planet that matters, also the fact that the ten tails is made of nature energy proves that it also absorbs the planet's chakra

 

[Padaruyos]

I am sure that the God Tree absorbs all the chakra including the planets or else there is no need for a planet to have chakra if its only the chakra of the life on that planet that matters, also the fact that the ten tails is made of nature energy proves that it also absorbs the planet's chakra

Even if individual Chakra fruits are like Low 5-B this can't scale to AP.

Just because someone ate a battery that contains Low 5-B energy doesn't mean their attacks are actually Low 5-B

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Maybe Jura will enhance the Juubi lore retroactively or sumn, given that he’s literally a Juubi granted sentience.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Even if individual Chakra fruits are like Low 5-B this can't scale to AP.

Just because someone ate a battery that contains Low 5-B energy doesn't mean their attacks are actually Low 5-B

Not the chakra fruit, I am talking about the ten tails that has that level of power, plus it can be converted to ap with the simple rule called conservation of energy

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Maybe Jura will enhance the Juubi lore retroactively or sumn, given that he’s literally a Juubi granted sentience.

Cant wait for that databook statement of the God Tree creating the universe coming true

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What kinda argument are you making now Alt? (Regarding the Juubi)

 

[Padaruyos]

It's kinda crazy how base Naruto just existing apparently caused space time to crack and bend around earth.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

What kinda argument are you making now Alt?

Ten tails kaguyas one atleast since its a fully mature one, has L5B power during to absorbing the planet's GPE and Rotational Kinetic Energy

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

It's kinda crazy how base Naruto just existing apparently caused space time to crack and bend around earth.

Passive non combat spatial manipulation

 

[Nierre]

 

[Padaruyos]

Ten tails kaguyas one atleast since its a fully mature one, has L5B power during to absorbing the planet's GPE and Rotational Kinetic Energy

Not sure about this one given the Naruto earth is still alive and well and it's still spinning.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ten tails kaguyas one atleast since its a fully mature one, has L5B power during to absorbing the planet's GPE and Rotational Kinetic Energy

When did she absorb the Rot KE or GPE? If she absorbed all of that for earth it would explode

 

[Padaruyos]

But the full Ten Tails should in theory be Low 5-B in raw energy not due to GPE stuff but by logically being more powerful than Hagoromo who created the moon (which is a Low 5-B feat)

Since Hagoromo's power is a small portion of Kaguya's power which is more or less full Ten Tails power. Kaguya and the Ten Tails is also where all chakra on earth ultimately comes from.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Not sure about this one given the Naruto earth is still alive and well and it's still spinning.

Well narutos planet is not an ordinary one, it has an abnormal spatial curvature

When did she absorb the Rot KE or GPE? If she absorbed all of that for earth it would explode

Again abnormal spatial curvature

 

[HelloThere1089]

That's like such a non explanation.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

But the full Ten Tails should in theory be Low 5-B in raw energy not due to GPE stuff but by logically being more powerful than Hagoromo who created the moon (which is a Low 5-B feat)

Since Hagoromo's power is a small portion of Kaguya's power which is more or less full Ten Tails power. Kaguya and the Ten Tails is also where all chakra on earth ultimately comes from.

That's what my very first post on this topic implied, narrativly wise the ten tails should be stronger then any tail best, but we have at best 6A

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Cant wait for that databook statement of the God Tree creating the universe coming true

Might have to come out of retirement if that happens

Start scaling everyone from Yang Kurama level at Low 2-C

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

That's like such a non explanation.

More curvature more chakra to extract, hell naruto himself has enough chakra to be mistaken as a chakra fruit and that's because of kurama now just imagine how much chakra did Kaguya's ten tails had

 

[Padaruyos]

That's what my very first post on this topic implied, narrativly wise the ten tails should be stronger then any tail best, but we have at best 6A

That's because the War Arc Ten Tails (the one absorbed by Obito) is missing Gyuki and crucially Kurama, who is more powerful than every other Tailed Beast combined. Full Ten Tails rating rn is Kaguya level.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Not the chakra fruit, I am talking about the ten tails that has that level of power, plus it can be converted to ap with the simple rule called conservation of energy

which doesn't exist in most anime let alone Naruto despite Einstein being canon in Naruto which means all prior physics to relativity would be canon too

 

[Nierre]

Einstein existing in Naruto is so funny to me

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Einstein existing in Naruto is so funny to me

Lol how do you think they get so much advanced tech? doesn't happen on its own without some brilliant physicists in the background.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Blud really said conservation of energy

 

[HelloThere1089]

Lol how do you think they get so much advanced tech? doesn't happen on its own without some brilliant physicists in the background.

Naruto Einstein used Newtonian physics

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Blud really said conservation of energy

Ohh, don't get me started here, I will put it simple terms

Chakra = energy
Chakra manipulation = conversion of energy into different energy

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Ohh, don't get me started here, I will put it simple terms

Chakra = energy
Chakra manipulation = conversion of energy into different energy

you're so cooked

 

[Avengershows]

Even if individual Chakra fruits are like Low 5-B this can't scale to AP.

Just because someone ate a battery that contains Low 5-B energy doesn't mean their attacks are actually Low 5-B

This is sort of a ? situation still though.
Base Momoshiki, who should be massively stronger than Toneri, scales to Toneri's attack which was nosold by sage mode kcm Naruto.
Logically, an increase of around 3 times wouldn't be that drastic and would be consistent with the fact that Momoshiki is quite literally stronger than Toneri.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

This is sort of a ? situation still though.
Base Momoshiki, who should be massively stronger than Toneri, scales to Toneri's attack which was nosold by sage mode kcm Naruto.
Logically, an increase of around 3 times wouldn't be that drastic and would be consistent with the fact that Momoshiki is quite literally stronger than Toneri.

"nah Kaguya is stronger than Momoshiki who is weaker than Toneri is just 6-C with the moon slice feat"
--Arc's project 2025

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

you're so cooked

Nah Ima burn the kitchen but still come out with a banger of a meal

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

"nah Kaguya is stronger than Momoshiki who is weaker than Toneri is just 6-C with the moon slice feat"
--Arc's project 2025

That's the only logic that's cooked

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Nah Ima burn the kitchen but still come out with a burnt meal

 

[HelloThere1089]

Ohh, don't get me started here, I will put it simple terms

Chakra = energy
Chakra manipulation = conversion of energy into different energy

My friend do you know this neat thing called "Attack Potency"

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Einstein existing in Naruto is so funny to me

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

My friend do you know this neat thing called "AP"

Can't go back now, either I die on this hill or admit defeat which is not happening

let's see, how I takel this. AP is the result of many forms of energy working at the same time like momentum, KE, etc. Just the conversion of energy is as great as the output with anime characters having 100% efficiency for work done, it's like you guys say the character can have 5B AP but not 5B destructive capabilities. That would mean there K.E is resulted in that much energy without being converted into other forms that cause DC.

I know I an going to lose this one, but I am too stubborn to admit defeat

 

[Ryzen7900X]

yeah this guy is more cooked than Naruto is against a blindfolded, no limbs, half-dead Goku

 

[HelloThere1089]

Can't go back now, either I die on this hill or admit defeat which is not happening

let's see, how I takel this. AP is the result of many forms of energy working at the same time like momentum, KE, etc. Just the conversion of energy is as great as the output with anime characters having 100% efficiency for work done, it's like you guys say the character can have 5B AP but not 5B destructive capabilities. That would mean there K.E is resulted in that much energy without being converted into other forms that cause DC.

You do realize that characters that have 5B punches miss their targets right. Where does that energy go? And this is a very casual point.

I know I an going to lose this one, but I am too stubborn to admit defeat

And I'm not stubborn at all. The moment this discussion seems like it's going nowhere, I'm out.