This is so dumb tho. I'm not talking about her doing anything about it. I'm talking about the thought not even crossing her mind when Daemon mentioned this exact thing a chapter before. Daemon is smarter than her.
Ong. I couldn't agree more with Eida when she said She's a dumb girl who's in love with the idea of love.
First of all I do think daemon is smarter than her but doesn't show it. Secondly when Daemon talked about it the way he spoke of it felt like kawaki was the only one that it would affect. Like her and eida would always be fine. Besides she knows omnipotence would just make everything fine again if people start asking questions
Yes. And she cares about him.
Yeah, the moment I see Sasuke being able to resist Omnipotence, I'm gonna atleast consider the possibility that it isn't foolproof. But that's me.
Honestly to eida it doesn't matter. If the village is against him she dips out of the village with him. She's just blindly in love.
If this happens, it's gonna negate all the character development Sasuke had shown in that moment. So yeah it's plausible this could happen.
Wish the real writers that did Naruto came back.
You're my son.
Yeah excluding natural and all other bijuu chakra he can amp. And you can't say they are equal if when they clashed we got explicit statement that naruto was holding back
The Ashura Avatar is stronger yes, but I'm talking about the normal Kurama Avatar. Wdym other Bijuu chakra he can amp? Do you not think he's already using their chakra in his chakra cloak?
Your justification for them being close was their avatars were pretty equal. I was trying to point out that while sasuke power stops there naruto power goes far beyond to show there was a clear gap in power. I don't really think he is using their chakra in his cloak. That's why anytime he uses any of their techniques they are like "I just infused chakra for you and stuff like that'.
Idk about your verbiage of “Far Beyond” But I do agree that Naruto was stronger at that point and had abilities that could would make Sasuke have a very hard day, if he was so inclined. Although, I will say that “if” Sasuke was an experienced Rinnegan user and had access to the Six Paths abilities like Madara or Nagato, then all of that goes out the window and Naruto would be disadvantaged.
Nagato is the only one who had it for a long time. Madara was not an experienced user. His first use of it in battle was as an Edo. I don't think he really used it much as an old man before he died.
Madara taught Obito the Six Paths abilities and based on his usaged of Preta, which was the same as Nagato’s, he likely had them mastered.
Sasuke with an experienced Preta Path shuts down majority of Naruto’s arsenal. ST covers his ass where Preta is insufficient. BT hurts Naruto’s ability to maneuver and evade if used properly in conjunction with other Ninjutsu and Asura Path probably (My assumption) can close any physical gap Naruto would get through SR. Maybe not “equal” it, but diminish its effectiveness. With Preta alone, Naruto’s final attack that matched Indra’s arrow would have been null and void. It’s something even Kurama warned Naruto about, saying that because he didn’t have Rinnegan for long, he couldn’t attack and absorb at the same time. Yes, Naruto would most certainly be disadvantaged against FV Sasuke with Rinnegan Experience.
How so when anything Naruto could have thrown at him would be hard countered if he had Rinnegan experience? Outside of SR, which Asura Path could at least diminish it’s effectiveness h2h.
Yes, we agree that in Canon, Naruto could have taken out the Susanoo with SR, but that doesn’t equate to taking out Sasuke. And going back to “if” he had Rinnegan Experience, SR Naruto would be less effective overall.
Sure Ashura Avatar Naruto is much stronger. I mean just pure SPSM Naruto.
I'm fine w Sasuke getting stronger although Naruto got overpowered in his clash
Sasuke does have hax that somewhat makes up for Naruto's raw power advantage.
8-B+ take it or leave it
Lets make it 8a8-B+ take it or leave it
Cook.Lets make it 8a
This doesn't go how you envision it and would just result in wastage of chakra for sasuke.
You know what's ironic? If you give naruto experience too with the arsenal of final valley we are back to square one. And not Preta part won't have helped sasuke. Let's forget the obvious fact that it is pure nature energy and that naruto is not dull and won't just throw his most powerful jutsu to someone who has been absorbing his jutsu. Say he actually does throw it yeah sasuke dies. Sasuke needed the susanoo just to contain pieces of the tailed beast chakra he borrowed. The amount of energy in these 2 rasenshuriken would fry sasuke. No cap he would be dead before absorption.
I just told you one boil release and he could one shot him and you said it doesn't equate to taking him out. And at first I thought you were arguing on sasuke using more abilities but now seems like straight up saying "give sasuke more experience and he wins" like okay give naruto more experience and he wins.
No. Yes spsm is combination of all bijuu chakra. At the same time it doesn't mean he is actively using all. If not kurama cloak won't even be necessary. With the shading he'd just be using all.
It’s not. It’s LITERALLY in the manga. I suggest looking back at it.
This is wrong. The only “limit” Preta has in the users capacity, and yes, the chakra does go to the user, as stated in the DB as well as being shown as this is the reason Nagato’s Preta path turned to Stone. Naruto’s 9 RS won’t overwhelm. Preta creates a barrier around the user (DB), thus leaving no openings and Kaguya not absorbing them is CIS and there’s not any valid reason on her not being able to (Kishi didn’t even have her attempt to do so), just like it was CIS for Naruto not to absorb the planets NE or use SR against Jigen/Isshiki. Didn’t even attempt it.
Naruto never resisted BT, even in KCM, and while yes, he can physically resist ST via sticking Tails or Chakra Arms in the ground or creating Clones behind him to push against it, it is by no means something he is walking through and none of his Jutsu are bypassing ST. It leaves Naruto having to use Taijutsu instead or waste effort planning around it, like against Pain, but Sasuke is a more varied opponents that has pros where Nagato had cons.
By an insignificant margin. Outside of Steam Release, The little extra SPC Naruto had from the 9 Biju didn’t offer him much. His Taijutsu wasn’t superior and he showed nothing that would screams “I’m better” comparatively and the only moments that spokes to that level were situation memtal amps. Ntm in this Scenario, his Ninjutsu is an afterthought, again, via Preta / ST.
You saw one usage of it in filler and are trying to extrapolate its entire effectiveness off that alone. I mean no offense, but use your imagination in a logical way given the Arsenal Sasuke has. Again, I never said these are Win Con abilities, just that they are useful.
Bro, you would end up in a very bad situation from a battle SP if your opp had stuff that would require you to split your focus and concentration to overcome. Sasuke isn’t immune to abusing these facts.
Not at all, but Naruto isn’t doing anything that is going to catch Sasuke off-guard. His usage of Ninjutsu is just gonna be a waste of Chakra in this scenario. Unlike with Nagato, Sasuke still has a Sharingan and thus Pre-cog (I don’t think Rinnegan retain their pre-cog
). That with Preta, ST, Ameno, Susanoo and equal h2h skill, Naruto outsmarting Sasuke in any meaningful way is just unbelievable. Well, the Asura path allows the user to modify their body. Based on showings, Asira Path is the Physically strongest. It would definitely be an amp in strength. I mean, it allows the paths to go from being physically dominated by SM Jiraiya to dominating Jiraiya. Whatever the case is, it is a amp over base stats none the less.
The attack exploding doesn’t change anything. It’s still Chakra.
You keep saying this, but this is factually false.
I think you need to reread Preta Path in the Databook.
Breaking Susanoo =/= Tagging Sasuke body. BR is a strength amp, and maybe you can argue a speed amp, but he isn’t blitzing Sasuke like Jigen.
You may be taking it that way, but i’m not saying anyone wins here. I just disagree with your characterization of this hypothetical fight and your presumed outlook on the effectiveness of Certain Jutsu.
No? Sasuke was even with BASE Naruto in phys stats. Only his ninjutsu scales to SPSM
. One attack from this Naruto and Sasuke is cooked.
Yeah, Momoshiki was also specifically squeezing down on him and holding him in place with the hair manipulation thing when he hit him, and Gaara was only out for roughly a minute or two, if at all, iirc.
Eh we don't use the anime for scaling anymore iirc (manga takes priority)
