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Hmmm guys Jura might be able to neg Daemon’s intent reflection since he is more of an instinctual being kinda of like ultra instinct. Since they are neither good nor evil and attack based on instinct instead of intent they might bypass the intent reflection.
Watch him neg it by Daemon not being able to touch anyone so everyone's theory just get thrown in the trash.
*Cries in the otsutsuki hologram being broken and still not being touched on
 
Guys I just noticed something in the manga. The leaf was not destroyed in the background until Kawaki clinched his fist then structures began to collapse in the background …. However, in the anime, it's different.



 
Naruto will come back and will reveal he had been training in his mindscape to further perfect his Sage Mode due to the loss of Kurama ( and likely his Six Paths cloak )

Now his new ultimate form is a mix of his new Perfected Sage Mode ( similar to Hashirama's ) + his Base Six Paths Mode and he will trade blows with Jura

Trust 🙏
 
Naruto will come back and will reveal he had been training in his mindscape to further perfect his Sage Mode due to the loss of Kurama ( and likely his Six Paths cloak )

Now his new ultimate form is a mix of his new Perfected Sage Mode ( similar to Hashirama's ) + his Base Six Paths Mode and he will trade blows with Jura

Trust 🙏
that 10 paths sage mode is gonna be bussing🔥
 
Naruto will come back and will reveal he had been training in his mindscape to further perfect his Sage Mode due to the loss of Kurama ( and likely his Six Paths cloak )

Now his new ultimate form is a mix of his new Perfected Sage Mode ( similar to Hashirama's ) + his Base Six Paths Mode and he will trade blows with Jura

Trust 🙏
6 paths² Mode, or SPSM
 
Possibly, yeah. Shadow and I were talking about this very idea earlier today funnily enough.

Purely in terms of the BFR, it's gotta be Daikokuten. They essentially do the same thing, but Daikokuten has Time Stop as an additional element, making it inherently superior.
Overall tho, I'd definitely take Kamui. It just offers so much offensive, defensive, and supplementary functions. Especially if you've got both eyes. Ridiculous ability.
What if Daikokuten is combined with Sukunahikona, how does it stack up to kamui?
 
What if Daikokuten is combined with Sukunahikona, how does it stack up to kamui?
Personally, I'd take that combination over Kakashi's MS. It's a toss up between them and Obito's MS for me, but I'd lean towards the MS because you also get a Sharingan by proxy, which is dope. I'd definitely take the DMS over them as well.
But Daikokuten + Sukunahikona is pretty nice too, I must admit, so I totally understand if someone preferred them over the MS.
 
You guys think ikemoto is going the route of "shinjtsu equivalent of ninjutsu" and taking the whole "ninjutsu is a pale imitation" seriously?

Coz if so i can see some comparisms. Like Omnipotence > COAT, Claw marks> FTG, Reflection > yata mirror, Kokugan > Kamui. I'm not sure for prescience but if this is true then what jutsu does anyone have ideas for how their shinjutsu counterpart can be more busted
 
You guys think ikemoto is going the route of "shinjtsu equivalent of ninjutsu" and taking the whole "ninjutsu is a pale imitation" seriously?

Coz if so i can see some comparisms. Like Omnipotence > COAT, Claw marks> FTG, Reflection > yata mirror, Kokugan > Kamui. I'm not sure for prescience but if this is true then what jutsu does anyone have ideas for how their shinjutsu counterpart can be more busted
Ninjutsu imitates the idea of Shinjustu, not that all Shinjustu are always greater than ninjutsu. They are a lot of Jutsu classified as ninjutsu that are way better than some shinjustu in Raw power and hax. They don’t always equal each other. Eg FTG was supposed to imitate the normal otutsuki abilities to open portals and teleport(possibly shinjustu), while FTG has it own benefits it still has limitations.
 
Ninjutsu imitates the idea of Shinjustu, not that all Shinjustu are always greater than ninjutsu. They are a lot of Jutsu classified as ninjutsu that are way better than some shinjustu in Raw power and hax. They don’t always equal each other. Eg FTG was supposed to imitate the normal otutsuki abilities to open portals and teleport(possibly shinjustu), while FTG has it own benefits it still has limitations.
I see the confusion. The > sign was not to denote superiority but just to show similarity. Also i don't think FTG is to imitate otsusuki teleportation. Both are ninjutsu
 
You guys think ikemoto is going the route of "shinjtsu equivalent of ninjutsu" and taking the whole "ninjutsu is a pale imitation" seriously?

Coz if so i can see some comparisms. Like Omnipotence > COAT, Claw marks> FTG, Reflection > yata mirror, Kokugan > Kamui. I'm not sure for prescience but if this is true then what jutsu does anyone have ideas for how their shinjutsu counterpart can be more busted
I would like to see the Shinjutsu counterpart to Cloning Ninjutsu.

Also I don't see it being talked about all that much, but I think the Ninjutsu counterpart to Karma is the Curse Mark. They function very, very similarly when you think about it.
 
Sarada also theorized that the SHS might be related to it too. Wonder if we'll ever spin back to that lol
 
Sarada also theorized that the SHS might be related to it too. Wonder if we'll ever spin back to that lol
I hope so (especially cause it'll likely give us some Hagoromo lore), but given how long it's been since that was mentioned and the fact that the writer changed, I'm extremely doubtful tbh.
 
I would like to see the Shinjutsu counterpart to Cloning Ninjutsu.

Also I don't see it being talked about all that much, but I think the Ninjutsu counterpart to Karma is the Curse Mark. They function very, very similarly when you think about it.
imagine shinjutsu be literal creation of another of yourself.

Yeah the curse mark seems really similar, I still wish we had a bit more lore on jugo clan
 
Wait so no one ever thought to like try sealing jutsu for karma? if it worked for curse mark why not give it a shot with karma then?
 
Since Naruto had resolved to kill his own son as a last resort, I'd imagine all other options like fuinjutsu were considered useless

I absolutely love the scene in the anime with him showing the conflict/turmoil he is feeling when the other Kage said they might need to kill his son

One of those things Boruto gets right is Naruto and Sasuke's character ( at least a good 90% of the time )
 
I absolutely love the scene in the anime with him showing the conflict/turmoil he is feeling when the other Kage said they might need to kill his son

One of those things Boruto gets right is Naruto and Sasuke's character ( at least a good 90% of the time )
Agreed. Tho alot of people will fight you on this take specifically regarding Naruto's parenting in early Boruto due to it being "so out of character" for him, when imo it's completely in character but that's a whole other can of worms 🥱
 
Wait so no one ever thought to like try sealing jutsu for karma? if it worked for curse mark why not give it a shot with karma then?
I assume you mean the Evil Sealing Method.
While the Karma and Curse Mark are pretty similar in giving power and also housing the soul/consciousness of another being eating away at the user, I don't believe the ESM would work.
It fundamentally works by relying on the recipient's strength of will and belief that it would work. Seeing as Boruto was resigned to dying more than a few times, I don't believe he'd be able to invoke enough willpower to constantly fight off Momoshiki who was more actively trying to take over his body from the Karma more than Orochimaru was from the Curse Mark.
That's my take on it anyway.
 
I've been slowly translating and reading the Boruto novels and they're really good tbh. There's always narrator dialogue and inner dialogue that we see from characters that we don't get (but are implied) in the anime.

I've already known this from the anime, but the novel in particular does a good job showcasing Mitsuki's character and his goals. Mitsuki feels so connected to Boruto and calls him his "Sun" because he, just like Boruto, chose to differ from the expectations of their family and those around them. Just as Boruto doesn't want to become Hokage like his dad and forge his own path without abandoning those he loves (as he perceives the Hokage role does to Naruto) despite everyone expecting him to follow under Naruto's footsteps (this also explains why Boruto has so much conviction in saving those who can't help themselves regardless of the circumstance and is so willing to prove himself different from what the Hokage looks like in his eyes, which in its own way makes him very similar to Naruto in that regard, but the reasoning is different - which is very important) -

Mitsuki also chose his own answer when he was given two options between sticking with Orochimaru or joining Log - he chose his own path and left on his own. It explains why Orochimaru gave him a scroll that had a picture of Boruto because Orochimaru's whole goal in creating Mitsuki was for him to "do what he [Orochimaru] couldn't do". It recontextualizes Orochimaru as well as a character who likely regrets the mistakes of his past, throwing away his old bonds in search of power. Mitsuki didn't do that, instead he chose to forge his own path and found Boruto who is very opposite of Orochimaru. Orochimaru very likely chose Boruto as Mitsuki's "Sun", who's light can help Mitsuki shine within the darkness, because he knew that if anybody could do it, it would be Naruto's son, because he saw the effect that Naruto had on Sasuke (whom Orochimaru had influenced and persuaded to cut those said bonds).
 
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