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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Momoshiki eating fruits and talking about that world being a worthless heap and how kaguyas world might potentially have strong enemies
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Hi Deceived! how's it goin? Lovely Shibai profile you made. I was just telling them how terrible it would be if it was removed and why it's crucial that it remains on the wiki.
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@Samlex1234 I think wanted something like that from me too
RN there's nothing regarding the Otsutsuki, but if I find anything I'll let you two know
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i love how out of context this sounds like a "THEYRE IN THE WALLS , THE SHADOW PEOPLE" type of comment
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That's been long translated
"The Gate to the other world that Nue opened... has been sealed."
Overlooking a blue planet was a desolate, solitary satellite: the Moon.
Upon it stood a building akin to a temple, constructed in ancient times, its very existence a secret.
Floating soundlessly above it, a man, resplendent with white hair and raiment, spoke in hushed tones to nobody in particular.
"For the time being... it seems that the Jougan will not return."
Ohtsutsuki Toneri. Speaking to Boruto through his dreams, he had prompted the awakening of a fateful power within the boy's body. A lonesome guardian pledged to standing vigil over those who lived on the surface world.
He had been unable to personally intervene. Doing so would surely have drawn the gaze of the "enemy" to the world looming below. That was why, upon becoming aware of Nue's existence, he had used means beyond human understanding to make Boruto aware of a portion of the power held within the Jougan, for he had had no choice but to resolve the incident indirectly.
"However, this is all just temporary... In time, the gods... will descend upon this land."
Of that he was certain. The arrival of those "enemies that frightened even Kaguya," whom Sasuke was investigating at that very moment, would likely occur far sooner than Naruto imagined. Within several years, a single year, or perhaps sooner still...!
"Their strength... the strength of the ninja... Still, it defies comprehension..."
Toneri himself had once been consumed by selfish pride, until his battle with Naruto revealed the error of his ways.
That was why, though they were but saplings sprouting from the seeds sown by Kaguya, he believed that the shinobi could surpass the power of the Ohtsutsuki who were their forebears.
And among them would stand a boy, the crystallization of that legacy: Uzumaki Boruto, whose potential was limitless.
EPILOGUE
Somewhere on an unidentified world.
Its doomed sun burned red, spitting synchrotron radiation with each death rattle, bathing its russet-colored terrain in the brilliant hues of an aurora.
In the heart of a ruined metropolis brimming with countless corpses, a small figure dressed in nobleman's finery, veil unsullied by even a mote of dust, sat atop a massive tree stump and gnawed upon something.
At first glance he appeared to be a handsome youth, but he wore a ruthless expression that oozed malice and vile cunning, and from his head grew a pair of horns that curved forward, dispelling any notion that he was human. Both of his eyes were white -- Byakugan.
"Hmm... For a world with such a low civilization level, I suppose the fruit was adequate."
The prize he had seized was the Divine Tree that had grown in these lands... now cruelly cut down and bereft of its fruit.
For no other reason than to "harvest" it, this world, and those who dwelled upon it, had been effortlessly destroyed.
"So, how did it go?"
With his back still turned, the silhouette of a stout man emerged from a spacetime ninjutsu behind him... Garbed in clothing of a similar design, with a single thick horn protruding from his skull and the bearded face of a giant, he replied with a voice like ice.
"In Kaguya's world, I observed significant tears. The space curvature has broken 16."
"Oh? We were supposed to wait to harvest that world..."
The smaller individual answered without a hint of emotion. He didn't even turn around.
"Right. If the space curvature exceeds ten, law dictates that we must immediately report it to the clan as an abnormality."
The giant stood at attention and nodded respectfully. It was obvious which of the two was in command, despite their respective ages; perhaps there was more to them than met the eye.
"For her to neglect her duties... That would mean that she has either chosen to disobey the clan, or..."
It was hard to fathom, but could she have been overthrown and destroyed by inferior lifeforms?
Normally such a thing would be impossible... However, if it were true, he imagined that it would make for an "exceptionally interesting" situation.
Unlike this pitiful heap, such a planet might have an abundance of ripe chakra truly worthy of being eaten.
"Kinshiki, make preperations to depart."
"As you wish, Lord Momoshiki."
Twisting his mouth wickedly, he who devours chakra -- nay, he who devours worlds -- rose to his feet.
* * *
The day of that clash draws near.
For now, his father's true greatness, and the burden of his heavy fate... these are things the boy is unaware of.
However, regardless of the hardships he may face, with the Will of Fire that dwells in his eyes, like the shining sun, he will light the way to his future... with his friends, together.
For this... is his story.
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Thanks bro I appreciate itThat's been long translated
"The Gate to the other world that Nue opened... has been sealed."
Overlooking a blue planet was a desolate, solitary satellite: the Moon.
Upon it stood a building akin to a temple, constructed in ancient times, its very existence a secret.
Floating soundlessly above it, a man, resplendent with white hair and raiment, spoke in hushed tones to nobody in particular.
"For the time being... it seems that the Jougan will not return."
Ohtsutsuki Toneri. Speaking to Boruto through his dreams, he had prompted the awakening of a fateful power within the boy's body. A lonesome guardian pledged to standing vigil over those who lived on the surface world.
He had been unable to personally intervene. Doing so would surely have drawn the gaze of the "enemy" to the world looming below. That was why, upon becoming aware of Nue's existence, he had used means beyond human understanding to make Boruto aware of a portion of the power held within the Jougan, for he had had no choice but to resolve the incident indirectly.
"However, this is all just temporary... In time, the gods... will descend upon this land."
Of that he was certain. The arrival of those "enemies that frightened even Kaguya," whom Sasuke was investigating at that very moment, would likely occur far sooner than Naruto imagined. Within several years, a single year, or perhaps sooner still...!
"Their strength... the strength of the ninja... Still, it defies comprehension..."
Toneri himself had once been consumed by selfish pride, until his battle with Naruto revealed the error of his ways.
That was why, though they were but saplings sprouting from the seeds sown by Kaguya, he believed that the shinobi could surpass the power of the Ohtsutsuki who were their forebears.
And among them would stand a boy, the crystallization of that legacy: Uzumaki Boruto, whose potential was limitless.
EPILOGUE
Somewhere on an unidentified world.
Its doomed sun burned red, spitting synchrotron radiation with each death rattle, bathing its russet-colored terrain in the brilliant hues of an aurora.
In the heart of a ruined metropolis brimming with countless corpses, a small figure dressed in nobleman's finery, veil unsullied by even a mote of dust, sat atop a massive tree stump and gnawed upon something.
At first glance he appeared to be a handsome youth, but he wore a ruthless expression that oozed malice and vile cunning, and from his head grew a pair of horns that curved forward, dispelling any notion that he was human. Both of his eyes were white -- Byakugan.
"Hmm... For a world with such a low civilization level, I suppose the fruit was adequate."
The prize he had seized was the Divine Tree that had grown in these lands... now cruelly cut down and bereft of its fruit.
For no other reason than to "harvest" it, this world, and those who dwelled upon it, had been effortlessly destroyed.
"So, how did it go?"
With his back still turned, the silhouette of a stout man emerged from a spacetime ninjutsu behind him... Garbed in clothing of a similar design, with a single thick horn protruding from his skull and the bearded face of a giant, he replied with a voice like ice.
"In Kaguya's world, I observed significant tears. The space curvature has broken 16."
"Oh? We were supposed to wait to harvest that world..."
The smaller individual answered without a hint of emotion. He didn't even turn around.
"Right. If the space curvature exceeds ten, law dictates that we must immediately report it to the clan as an abnormality."
The giant stood at attention and nodded respectfully. It was obvious which of the two was in command, despite their respective ages; perhaps there was more to them than met the eye.
"For her to neglect her duties... That would mean that she has either chosen to disobey the clan, or..."
It was hard to fathom, but could she have been overthrown and destroyed by inferior lifeforms?
Normally such a thing would be impossible... However, if it were true, he imagined that it would make for an "exceptionally interesting" situation.
Unlike this pitiful heap, such a planet might have an abundance of ripe chakra truly worthy of being eaten.
"Kinshiki, make preperations to depart."
"As you wish, Lord Momoshiki."
Twisting his mouth wickedly, he who devours chakra -- nay, he who devours worlds -- rose to his feet.
* * *
The day of that clash draws near.
For now, his father's true greatness, and the burden of his heavy fate... these are things the boy is unaware of.
However, regardless of the hardships he may face, with the Will of Fire that dwells in his eyes, like the shining sun, he will light the way to his future... with his friends, together.
For this... is his story.
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No problem I had it saved since 2020Thanks bro I appreciate it
It reminds me of how much "solar system Momoshiki" was pushed cause of that dying sun statement looool
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people back then were STARVING for high end feats
MinatoSparkle
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Implication that clones are weaker than the user?
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‘motley crew’ gets me every time lolImplication that clones are weaker than the user?
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They're not useful for decisive hits because they're so weak durability wise and the fact that they split up his chakra. It's just not beneficial for him.Implication that clones are weaker than the user?
I don't think it's saying they're weaker SS/AP wise
MinatoSparkle
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Don't really need to have durability if they defeat the enemy before getting hit, and they definitely are beneficial overall
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Clones DONT need to have as much power as naruto, that's just a thing that naruto usually does.
Like in part 1 against neji when he splits his chakra evenly.
You can make a clone that has less chakra then you
I'm pretty sure zabuzas clones clones had like 1\10 of their original strength and sasuke blitz stamped some of them
Like in part 1 against neji when he splits his chakra evenly.
You can make a clone that has less chakra then you
I'm pretty sure zabuzas clones clones had like 1\10 of their original strength and sasuke blitz stamped some of them
MinatoSparkle
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Sure, though in this case that applies just as much to Naruto himself. I think he's just talking as a general rule of thumb.
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This being a possible solar system feat by Momo is not outrageous at all.
“Somewhere on an unidentified world” (shirenu sekai means on the planet in this case)
“Its doomed sun burned red” the star providing sunlight, essential for sustaining life (e.g… through photosynthesis) was dying
“bathing its russet-colored terrain in the brilliant hues of an aurora” Instead of emitting typical sunlight, the dying sun emitted radiation, illuminating the planet with aurora-like light.
“The prize he had seized was the Divine Tree that had grown in these lands... now cruelly cut down and bereft of its fruit.
For no other reason than to "harvest" it, this world, and those who dwelled upon it, had been effortlessly destroyed.”
Analysis
A natural death of the sun (e.g., via stellar evolution) would have taken billions of years. However, the planet was vibrant and good before Momoshiki destroyed it which would have been impossible as advanced civilization or photosynthesis can not persist on the planet If the sun was dying naturally, in fact they should have died at least millions of years before the sun reached a red giant phase.
The logical conclusion, the event was unnatural and likely caused by Momoshiki.
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i think there was like a dwarf star level calc for this, i wish it wasnt so vague tho
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Granting that Momoshiki was the cause (I haven't read the novel, nor have I read the scans in a long ass while), why would this scale to any of his attacks? All you would get from this is some level of environmental destruction (4-B overtime or whatever, tmk the star didn't go supernova immediately if it all, it was just stated to be near the end of its life).
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yeah this too, for all we know he did it over 1 million seconds and would scale to only like 1/millionth of it physically . Maybe it would scale to the lava golem???
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4B? You're assuming the dimension is getting destroyed?
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No? Just the star , sometimes it can end up at 4-B, although i think solar here is 30 Foe, so a supernova being 1 Foe would be large star or High-4-C
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Naw core collapse supernova produce 4-B energy.
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Simple just delete Boruto verse and keep Naruto verse.
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Delete All Verses except for Dragonball
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no
delete naruto, bleach and one piece and keep boruto
the whole wiki's mental health will improve drastically
edit : add db to spite labihs
MinatoSparkle
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Bro woke up today and chose violence
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lowkey, Borutos powerscaling is so linear and simple, It would save people from headaches of having to update 30 profiles whenever a TBB gets recalced
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and they require significantly less mental gymnastics than hst shenanigans
"oh you want 4D beings? here you go he's straight up higher dimensional, no hyperboles no bs no inconsistency"
"oh you want 4D beings? here you go he's straight up higher dimensional, no hyperboles no bs no inconsistency"
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it's only "simple" because Boruto not only doesn't have many feats (so for the most part they scale off of Naruto characters), but also their cast is like 1/10th the size lol
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i mean the power scaling in general is just newer villian > Older villian , with like one exception....
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because it is a sequel with establish narratives that it goes off of
if boruto started out as its own thing with no prequels it would have far more feats
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yeah, i think ikemoto confirmed that for part 1 kishimoto and all that said no more big booms.
I mean, as soon as part 2 started we got rasengan uzuhiko
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heck if boruto as its own new series, it would have bigger booms than naruto did, Ikemoto would be on some toriyama level sh*t with them nuking large chunks of the planet
