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Naruto/Boruto General Discussion Thread #19

Exactly my point, with Six Paths chakra in his body it is obvious he will subconciously do to it what he'd been doing to Kurama's chakra for years, mesh it with his own, that alone, coupled with feats gives obvious explanations of Adult Naruto being much stronger than War arc
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
AstralKing7 wrote
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I know, but in order to have a composite profile the characters need to have a notable difference between them. Right now there is only a very small difference between the anime and manga momoshiki.However, if he was 4-C in the anime/Light novel, then i think thats a big enough difference for a composite profile. Right now i don't think there is enough to make a composite profile.
That is the opposite. If there was such a huge difference t would need to be a seperate character sheet. Since the difference is small composite makes the most sense.
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
AstralKing7 wrote
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I know, but in order to have a composite profile the characters need to have a notable difference between them. Right now there is only a very small difference between the anime and manga momoshiki.However, if he was 4-C in the anime/Light novel, then i think thats a big enough difference for a composite profile. Right now i don't think there is enough to make a composite profile.
Light novel has 4-C momo no?
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
Are you talking about just adding a new key to momoshikis profile?
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No we are talking about changing the current profiles from manga only to composite.
 
Let's set aside manga canon, we know that 16 year old KCM Naruto was Small Country level via feats, we also know 19 year old KCM Naruto is Small Planet level, via feats. To say "Uh hE's NoT MucH StrOnGeR" is just being foolish
 
It's 4-B, he created a Solar System, given how theres a star and planets, and it's parallel dimension to the one Naruto lives in
 
BMWFanboy said:
So KCM goes from Low 6-B to Low 5-B in 2 years but it's a small amount and unprovable. Do go on.
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It depends which ver. of Base Naruto we r using.

Ex: Base Naruto (war) = PL 5

Base Naruto (Last) = PL 10

Base Naruto (Adult) = PL 15

I do belive that KCM and other transformations give the same multiplier

@BFF

I also agree w/ the likely
 
KCM Naruto from the War has country level feats, KCM Naruto from the Last is capable of one shotting Mercury the planet, there's a large difference and it's obvious he's gotten stronger
 
BMWFanboy said:
KCM Naruto from the War has country level feats, KCM Naruto from the Last is capable of one shotting Mercury the planet, there's a large difference and it's obvious he's gotten stronger
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When did he ever oneshot a planet?
 
i agree with the composite profile, but we cant include the Light Novel because we dont agree with Momoshiki's AP. Just the manga and anime.


Also its crazy people dont see the increase in Naruto's ap lol. Before these 5b we literally had small planet level KCM 19yo Naruto on the same freaking tier as SOSP teen naruto lmao like seriously was i the only one thinking that naruto had gotten way stronger. Now we can see the differences with teen and young adult and adult naruto. Narutos as a teen was only low 6B lol, now we got low 5B naruto probably even in base, and in KCM one shotting people who are small planet level in his base. Then we got Naruto in his base being able to keep up with someone who is above 400zt. If somoeone is still thinking Adult naruto and young adult Naruto is less than low 5b then this wiki may not be the place for them. The scaling and calcs all prove it
 
BMWFanboy said:
Let's set aside manga canon, we know that 16 year old KCM Naruto was Small Country level via feats, we also know 19 year old KCM Naruto is Small Planet level, via feats. To say "Uh hE's NoT MucH StrOnGeR" is just being foolish
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after six path buff

base naruto scale from base sasuke and base sasuke is 5-B (war arc/vote 2) lol
 
I like both manga and anime,what I hate about the manga is that things go very slowly,anime adds so much more details,sometimes it looks like the manga is empty,the Chunin exams and Momo's arc are a lot better in anime,with more details.
 
tbh i think we are gonna see full power Naruto and i mean with everything from his jutsus to Kurama avatar later in the manga when he has to fight a Kara member or a clan member
 
That is exactly the poitn of the anime which is why I am confused as to why composite was not decided in the firs place.
 
This isn't really the place to talk about a profile for composite Momoshiki. It's probably going to be rejected though.
 
BMWFanboy said:
It's 4-B, he created a Solar System, given how theres a star and planets, and it's parallel dimension to the one Naruto lives i
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its same as kaguya dimension (has moon, planet and sun)
 
why would it be rejected?? We got momoshiki's profile with Movie and Manga, i dont see the problem. Better yet we actually can just make a nother profile for anime momoshiki. I remember people said that manga dbs doesnt have profiles lol so ANime momoshiki shouldnt...we got a freaking Game Xeno Goku so whats the problem. Nothing should be wrong with composite Momoshiki or just a new profile fore Momoshiki
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
BMWFanboy said:
KCM Naruto from the War has country level feats, KCM Naruto from the Last is capable of one shotting Mercury the planet, there's a large difference and it's obvious he's gotten stronger
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When did he ever oneshot a planet?
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"is capable of one shotting Mercury the planet"
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
What happened to the lifting strength upgrade? Where the accepted, denied, or just forgotten?
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i actually dont know what upgrades your talking about
 
AstralKing7 said:
why would it be rejected?? We got momoshiki's profile with Movie and Manga, i dont see the problem. Better yet we actually can just make a nother profile for anime momoshiki. I remember people said that manga dbs doesnt have profiles lol so ANime momoshiki shouldnt...we got a freaking Game Xeno Goku so whats the problem. Nothing should be wrong with composite Momoshiki or just a new profile fore Momoshiki
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lol i want game version kaguya,naruto,sasuke profiles
 
oh i dont think that got accepted yet or its just not gonna get accepetd, man i forgot all about that. One of the reasons its gonna get accepted is crazy. Its a lifitng strength thread revision but for some reason it became a thread about 5B toneri lmao so naw i dont think its gonna get accepted cause peoopple are gonna say outlier and toneri shouldnt be 5B
 
I don't care about toneri being 5-B, i think all god tiers should have Class E lifting strength scaling from toneri.
 
Lol, there is a serious problem here in regards to Scalings.

So, what makes you guys think Hokage Naruto and Sasuke got stronger? Clearly there is no proof and you're even ignoring facts.

  • War Arc SPSM Naruto = 50% Hags Chakra + 50% Kurama + fractions of Biju Chskra
  • Hokage Naruto = 50% Hags Chakra + 100% Kurama + Fractions on Biju Chakra (Which he doesn't use).
What you guys don't realize is that 100% Kurama is only Country level...

  • Adding Country level energy to Planet level energy an Insignificant boost
And Naruto after the War only got the other 50% Kurama...

So now, you are going to sit here and claim that that Fused Momoshiki is stronger than Naruto snd Sasuke and KAGUYA, Based on his feats against an Exhausted Naruto not 100% Sasuke, and yes, Sasuke isn't 100%:

  • Used a Vast amount of Chakra to get to Momo's Dimension
  • Wasted Stamina fighting Kinshiki
You claim Naruto got stronger but you have no proof of how much, it's unquantifiable. New techniques (Rasengan Blast and that Chakra fist) don't immidiately constitute AP buffs. What's more is SPSM which you guys ignore.

SPSM gives the Users Omniscient understanding of Chakra. Tbis means Both War Arc SPSM Naruto and SPSM Hokage Naruto are EQUAL in Chakra Control.

Which means, the only difference in power between them is:

  • Hokage Naruto Has 100% Kurama as opposed to War Arc only having 50% Kurama.
The buff is insignificant as pointed out above. So how is he much stronger? Sasuke Already Had Hagoromo Level Chakra in the war arc, what proof do you have that he has more skill than Hags now as an adult?

Yet Naruto and Sasuke would trash Kaguya as adults?....Based on what exactly?

Momoshiki in the Anime trashed Base Naruto and Sasuke (In one Instance) Sure. He struggled against Naruto (SPSM) alone and was overwhelmed with the addition of Sasuke. Both of which are no more stronger than their War Arc versions, all things considered. Yet Momoshiki trashes Kaguya?

Not to mention the Anime isn't canon, but in canon (Manga), Momoshiki can overwhelm Base Naruto, Mid Diff, but get totally finessed by Chakra mode Naruto.

And again, in this fight, Naruto nor Sasuke are 100%.
 
TheFinalOrder said:
Lol, there is a serious problem here in regards to Scalings.
So, what makes you guys think Hokage Naruto and Sasuke got stronger? Clearly there is no proof and you're even ignoring facts.

  • War Arc SPSM Naruto = 50% Hags Chakra + 50% Kurama + fractions of Biju Chskra
  • Hokage Naruto = 50% Hags Chakra + 100% Kurama + Fractions on Biju Chakra (Which he doesn't use).
What you guys don't realize is that 100% Kurama is only Country level...

  • Adding Country level energy to Planet level energy an Insignificant boost
And Naruto after the War only got the other 50% Kurama...

So now, you are going to sit here and claim that that Fused Momoshiki is stronger than Naruto snd Sasuke and KAGUYA, Based on his feats against an Exhausted Naruto not 100% Sasuke, and yes, Sasuke isn't 100%:

  • Used a Vast amount of Chakra to get to Momo's Dimension
  • Wasted Stamina fighting Kinshiki
You claim Naruto got stronger but you have no proof of how much, it's unquantifiable. New techniques (Rasengan Blast and that Chakra fist) don't immidiately constitute AP buffs. What's more is SPSM which you guys ignore.

SPSM gives the Users Omniscient understanding of Chakra. Tbis means Both War Arc SPSM Naruto and SPSM Hokage Naruto are EQUAL in Chakra Control.

Which means, the only difference in power between them is:

  • Hokage Naruto Has 100% Kurama as opposed to War Arc only having 50% Kurama.
The buff is insignificant as pointed out above. So how is he much stronger? Sasuke Already Had Hagoromo Level Chakra in the war arc, what proof do you have that he has more skill than Hags now as an adult?

Yet Naruto and Sasuke would trash Kaguya as adults?....Based on what exactly?

Momoshiki in the Anime trashed Base Naruto and Sasuke (In one Instance) Sure. He struggled against Naruto (SPSM) alone and was overwhelmed with the addition of Sasuke. Both of which are no more stronger than their War Arc versions, all things considered. Yet Momoshiki trashes Kaguya?

Not to mention the Anime isn't canon, but in canon (Manga), Momoshiki can overwhelm Base Naruto, Mid Diff, but get totally finessed by Chakra mode Naruto.

And again, in this fight, Naruto nor Sasuke are 100%.
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low 5B KCM naruto one shottting other low 5Bs thats all i got to say for naruto being stronger, so apparently having both haves of Kurama does mean somethign when freaking teen KCM naruto was baseline high 6A

Sasuke in no way was tired. How do you think they got out of that dimension?? Using your logic Sasuke after a fight while using his rinnegan to go the the dimensino and fight shouldnt have been able to get out of it. Sasuke even before the fight had been using his portals to escape Momoshiki and kinshiki in the Ice dimension whihc means it doesnt take as big a toll as we think on Sasuke
 
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