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Nanatsu No Taizai Discussion Thread 12

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Pretty sure he is known as The Original Demon and not The Sinner. The Sinner isn't his name he just calls himself that for committing the sin of betraying the Demon King.
 
also shouldnt cusack/sinner get magic cancelation? chandler wanted him to undo merlins spells when he got her with renosant
 
Zezu1995 said:
true... BUT.... the sinner sounds cool so lets use it ^.^
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No.

In fact, we dont know if it has a name. The Original Demon is what we can go for now. The Sinner is another name/title he uses to refer to himself (it must be added too).
 
so by controling her body to cancel her spells doesnt it count as a magic cancel? but only with renosant?
 
I don't think its worth putting Magic Cancellation either, as Gelan said, he was just trying to force Merlin to stop the spell, not cancelling it.
 
Peter1129 said:
The Original Demon breaking the darkness with the shockwave from the fusion alone should mean they are at least stronger than The One Escanor. Since the shockwave from the fight between Escanor and Zeldris didn't shatter the darkness like this.
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The One did not create any shockwaves

not all attacks create shockwaves.

he (the sinner) is the original demon.
 
My guess for scaling is this

1. Demon King and Supreme Goddess both at half power and full power

2. 5 Commandments Meliodas

3. The Original Demon

4. Sunshine Mael (Maybe "The One" Mael can match the Original Demon)

5. Prime Meliodas (Whatever his full power actually is)

6. The One Escanor

7. Zeldris with Ominous Nebula and 2nd demon mark

8. Ludoshel Full Power with Real Body

9. True Form Chandler

10. True Form Cusack

11. King Full Wings

12. 4 Commandments Mael

13. Assault Mode Meliodas

14. Elizabeth (Possibly higher)

15. Near Noon Escanor

This is my new theory
 
didnt full comp mael had a pl 200k+ making him stronger than the masters PL wise , but he did start to get weaker due to being unstable when king beat him
 
After rethinking some things over my list is like this. I'm including the same characters in different forms.

Top 20

1. Demon King/Supreme Deity

2. 5C Prime Assault Mode meliodas

3. Original Demon

4. Sunshine Mael

5. Prime Assault Mode Meliodas

6. The One Escanor

7. Zeldris w/ God, Ominous Nebula, and 2nd Demon Mark

8. Full Grown Wings King

9. 4C Mael

10. Elizabeth

11. Prime Demon Mark Meliodas

12. Zeldris w/ God and Ominous Nebula

13. Indura Monspeet/Indura Derriere

14. Ludoshel

15. Zeldris w/ God

16. True Form Chandler

17. True Form Cusack

18. 3C Mael

19. Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas

20. Late Morning Escanor

Honorable Mentions

Hawk Mama: Doesn't have good enough feats canon wise.

Wild Full Throttle Mode: Died after using it for a short period of time.

Wild: Unknown stronger than Purgatory Ban.

Indura Baruja: Unquantifiably more powerful than Indura Monspeet and Indura Derriere sue to being an full grown Indura.

Purgatory Ban: Unknown

Demon Gowther: Virtually everything about him is unknown other than him being an immensely powerful magic user.

Merlin: Needs prep time to be op.
 
I think The Sinner has at least a powerlevel over 300k....

Cusack+Chandler powerlvl get become one and both have 170k+ which means they surpass 300k...
 
His name is not The Sinner it's The Original Demon. Also he's probably going to be at least 341k since True Form Chandler is 173k and True Form Cusack is 168k.
 
Hmm, we might have been a bit early in giving the Original Demon every ability that Cusack and Chandler has.

For example, the Original Demon doesn't appear to have eyes, so how would he perform Resonance like Cusack can?
 
Merlin: needs prep to be op.

"Prep"

She set up all the spells mid battle and while teleporting.

She can likely take out at least King.
 
Peter1129 said:
His name is not The Sinner it's The Original Demon. Also he's probably going to be at least 341k since True Form Chandler is 173k and True Form Cusack is 168k.
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"original demon" is not a name. It's just what the sinner is.

Also everyone knows Purgatory Ban will wreck this guy pretty badly, meaning that The ONE is still>>> as he's >Ban. In fact it makes no sense to say that Mael would be stronger than The One Escanor let alone a hypothetical 'prime AM meliodas' when The One only needed one slap to one shot him.
 
@PaChi2 Merlin still needed time to set it up and that was while their attention wasn't on her. If she was in a 1 v 1 without any help she wouldn't have enough time to set it up.
 
Damage3245 said:
Hmm, we might have been a bit early in giving the Original Demon every ability that Cusack and Chandler has.
For example, the Original Demon doesn't appear to have eyes, so how would he perform Resonance like Cusack can?
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Well unless otherwise stated, we assume that he can use the abilities of his halves. After all, it can still be assumed Mael still knows Full Counter.
 
Mael with Sunshine was Meliodas' equal in the previous Holy War. We know that when he proceeds into Late Morning, he becomes stronger than Ludsohel by a far margin. As it was also hammered in, the Goddesses losing Mael meant that they had no chance in winning the war at all so they went for the seal.

Escanor's base PL is just a mere 15 while his strongest in The One is well over 200K. It's safe to say that Sunshine can have some pretty exponential gains when it comes to power. Even if we don't use PL's explicitly because they've already been shown to be faulty, Mael was already far stronger than Escanor in his base. It would only make sense that his peak is that high. Especially after Nakaba has constantly retconned Meliodas' power level when he was the TC leader upwards as the series progressed.
 
Peter1129 said:
@PaChi2 Merlin still needed time to set it up and that was while their attention wasn't on her. If she was in a 1 v 1 without any help she wouldn't have enough time to set it up.
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Yes she would. Double impact doesnt need prep. And she did the rest while teleporting.
 
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