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Like i said how does Genm easily adjust his speed and blitz Goku ?
What does invul mean ? Ex Aid only has large planet durability from his information.
Reality Warping and Plot Manipulation hax . Not pure strength
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Name the weakest characters from your verses who can defeat Goku (DBS).
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What does invul mean ? Ex Aid only has large planet durability from his information.
Reality Warping and Plot Manipulation hax . Not pure strength
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He can adjust his stats/reality warp, whatever whenever really, even when he die and he have respawn time.
Invulnerability, Hyper Muteki make Ex-Aid immune to all damage and debuff including everything Genm God could throw at him according to Genm God himself. The profile are heavily outdated with an infos thats actually just wrong. Ex-Aid didn’t survived Mars being throw at him in Hyper Muteki because he never goes into the form.
And in the movie it is shown that Muteki would likely save the World of Heisei against the eventual collision with World of Build. World in this case are universe/multiverse.
Invulnerability, Hyper Muteki make Ex-Aid immune to all damage and debuff including everything Genm God could throw at him according to Genm God himself. The profile are heavily outdated with an infos thats actually just wrong. Ex-Aid didn’t survived Mars being throw at him in Hyper Muteki because he never goes into the form.
And in the movie it is shown that Muteki would likely save the World of Heisei against the eventual collision with World of Build. World in this case are universe/multiverse.
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World can be consider planet. In Heisei Generation Final Foundation X is pulling planet earth from world of build and tried to collide that with Main Rider earth (Kuuga-Ex Aid world).
If Hyper Muteki is immune to all damage why someone like Gamdeus Chronos can hit him?
Give me that source or I will call that bullshit. Did Genm throw Galaxies to Ex aid ? He only use mars to damage him.
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It can be. But it is heavily implied to be universe with many hint throughout the movie like Mogami talk about parallels universe, many iterations of Rider using planet Earth as a stand-in for universe since Kamen Rider Decade, the various imagery tying into timelines, and there’s also the fact that universes/multiverse merge is a thing as of Build finale.
And just because he get hit doesn’t mean he’s actually taking any damage. And Emu is force to sacrifice Parado so he doesn’t have access to the form for the rest of the fight.
And here is the link to Genm specs so read it as much as you do wished. Hell, even in the Genm VS Lazer. He doesn’t seem to have conventional resistances to time stop. He control the time in his “world” to move differently. And carefully read what I said before, Genm basically stated that no matter what he try to do in his Genm God form. Muteki will always win. This is a quote from the novel. There’s a reason why Genm just ******* shot Emu before he can transform in Genm VS Lazer
And just because he get hit doesn’t mean he’s actually taking any damage. And Emu is force to sacrifice Parado so he doesn’t have access to the form for the rest of the fight.
And here is the link to Genm specs so read it as much as you do wished. Hell, even in the Genm VS Lazer. He doesn’t seem to have conventional resistances to time stop. He control the time in his “world” to move differently. And carefully read what I said before, Genm basically stated that no matter what he try to do in his Genm God form. Muteki will always win. This is a quote from the novel. There’s a reason why Genm just ******* shot Emu before he can transform in Genm VS Lazer
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According to Japanese profile they mention earth of build and ex aid but not universe.
That argument made sense but too bad on Japanese profile of heisei generation final there no universe but earth.
In Build final episode itself we see the earth of their world merging the earth with main one ( Kuuga - Ex Aid).
He taking damage and struggling to fighting against Gemdeus chronos. What the hell are you talking about ?
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Far from the weakest, but certainly not the strongest. SCP Foundations ‘Joe Schmoe’ would possibly be able to take down Goku, depending on the battlefield/amount of prep time. Goku would treat everything Joe as normal (which means he wouldn’t have a reason to activate UI, and even then, his Instincts would be changed to normal anyways), and therefore Joe could get something from the battlefield/prep, such as... hm... I’m not sure, but there’s something, I know it. There’s the possibility that Goku, being in-character and seeing no harm, would lessen his guard and therefore be susceptible to damage, but I’m not certain about that.
Would it get away with Vsbattles Standards? Nope. Realistically, assuming Goku doesn’t just leave, would it work? Potentially.
Would it get away with Vsbattles Standards? Nope. Realistically, assuming Goku doesn’t just leave, would it work? Potentially.
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Still not taking any damage. Parado, Taigā and other are knocked out of transformation LONG after
and you do know that the Japanese they call each “World” as their own universe right?
That why we have World of Decade, World of Build. And in the final episode Build either merge with some random universe which lead to Kamen Rider Build New World OR Zi-O
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Kamen Rider use the image of Earth to reference to parallel worlds, similar to how DC Comic portrayed the multiverse.
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And ?
We don't see another planet merging with each other such like Mars from world of build combine with Mars from another world.
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Fair enough.
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Kamen Rider uses the image of Earth to demonstrates timeline all the time. This is confirmed when Sentou talked about countless of parallel worlds in Build.
Hell, when the fusion of 2 timelines is merged in Build final episode, they show us the images of 2 earths merged together.
Hell, when the fusion of 2 timelines is merged in Build final episode, they show us the images of 2 earths merged together.
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Still blitzes and one-shots, at worst goku mafuba him.
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-Battle assumptions says the character at their stronger so mui
- In character and willing to kill
Conclusion, blitz, and one-shots.
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Resist perceptions hax , fear and madness hax with MUI (read the second page of my thread talking about that).
Conclusion , goku blitz and one shots.
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Goku cannot one-shout because Invul, this invul also make him resistances to Reality Warp, Laws Manip, etc.etc. As Muteki is unaffected by all form of “debuff” so no Mafuba.
Genm God die once and stats set before blitzing Goku head off.
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It isn't just about emotions, fear, and panic , perceptions fade they will not affect him. Still blitzes and one-shots.
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That’s a big NLF, Goku get passive GG
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Mafuba is sealing. Goku will still still surpass him , double reactive power level.
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Nop , he blitzs and ones shots because he's far stronger and faster.
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there are characters the have same thing as that and the Virus still ****** them over also you can't blitz passives LUL
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List them , he's faster than that bug ,he will litteray blitz and one shots before he can do anything.
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Still got 99 lives to goes through, Mafuba sealing <<< Genm God Reality Warp + Power Bestowal that include all hax in the series which also have sealing on 4D scale.
You...don’t really understand passive, do you? Passive mean that the bug stand there and Goku just die because he’s within the bug range. It activated as soon as the fight start no matter the speed, except you are the WEIRD one with immeasurable speed that allow you to act before the fight start.
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Goku one shots , if he comes back he mafuba him. It will not affect him as I explained , we could give/argue for immeasurable infinite speed goku (if you use the jiren transcending time and goku moving in stop time) , but regardless , he's vaslty faster and superior , he blitzes and ones shots , if he come back he seals him with mafuba.
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Vylons are machines they have no concept of fear/panic and they have no mind and the virus still ****** them over
also the the mind/Corruptions hax that comes the virus are passives they're always on you also didn't address my point about how goku iteract with an abstact virus
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This thread's becoming "Ignore Hax and Resistances, and let's base this all on AP and Speed" type of thread
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Goku in mui , doesn't feel anything other thn himself , the fight and is opponent , and panic , fear hesistation and perceptions fades and do not afffect him. Again no mind hax , he has resistance to illusions/mind hax. You didn't say it was abstract until now so you are wrong for saying it didn't address it since you only mention it right now. Regardless the virus will not work , he blitzes and ones shots the bug , if he comes back mafuba him ( or if you use the dbs manga hakai him).
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Goku can’t one shot because Invul. And Low 2-C reactive power level is kinda~ garbage compare to Low 2-C invul. And again, Genm amp his speed to the point that he can one shot Goku easy, then law hax, bio hax etc.etc. Or literally program himself skill enough that he can just be more skilled than Goku.
And as the user above stated before. Vylon are literally machine that cannot feel anything. Just like Goku, and it still get infect anyway because Iswarm lmao
And as the user above stated before. Vylon are literally machine that cannot feel anything. Just like Goku, and it still get infect anyway because Iswarm lmao
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Low-2c is what is rated here from the BoG which should have been 2-c anyways but that would take time before they accept it. Goku is infintly faster than him , he will litteraly blitz and one shot him , the hax wont matter when he cant react. Still blitz and one shots. It isn't like goku , even if they can't feel emotions like goku in mui , he still stated that perceptions , hesitations , panic and fear basicly vanish and are turn to nothing. So again , blitz and one shots the bug , if the bug come back seal him.
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The "blah blah muh AP is higher therefore I resist your hax" doesn't work in here.
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Read the second post , I outlined goku's resistance with MUI , it's you ignoring it.
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didn't i just say that characters that have no concept of fear/emotion and have literally no brain still got mind haxed regardless what makes goku is any different
also the virus doesn't just Corrupt/mind hax you it can control your body posses your soul and destroy your soul and it can transmutate you by controling your Biology
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But is that approved yet though?
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Didn't I say , he has resistances to it? Goku has astral defenses for example with the hakai that destroy your existence including your soul, and goku's soul is granted a body. He still blitzes and one shots (hakai does much more than this but this is just an example of what it can do).
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I do not know if someone presented it , but still works.
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The hax does matter because he can easily apply his hax while he “die” and doesn’t really exist in the world for Goku to hit him. Worst case scenario, Genm unleashed a Game Virus that he can’t dodge because everything inside the universes is his hax zone.
Well, it’s a good thing that 2-C invul Muteki is also a thing then.
Well, it’s a good thing that 2-C invul Muteki is also a thing then.
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Said resistance is so weak that tons of characters can bypassed it easily.
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If it isn't approved and on his profile then it doesn't work
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