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Agreed. Scratching him would only be 9-A+.
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My Hero Academia Plus Ultra Discussion Thread #5
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She did stabbed Aizawa
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She had a knife and I'm pretty sure her whole body weight pressing into his shoulder from above. Also, that justification is already on there - we were talking about her second AP justification.
Plus Aizawa has no actual durability feats that make him Building level; his current justification for durability is surviving Nomu's attacks but even Nomu's most casual attacks snapped his arm like a twig.
Plus Aizawa has no actual durability feats that make him Building level; his current justification for durability is surviving Nomu's attacks but even Nomu's most casual attacks snapped his arm like a twig.
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We normally scale AP to Durability in terms of physical strength (Except special cases like Deku, who's physical attacks with 100% damage him)
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I think it's probably best to wait for the movie to be officially released over here.
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Will the film come out on Crunchyroll?
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Yeah, I agree with thisDamage3245 said:
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I find it amusing how Izuku has a feat almost exactly as strong as Todoroki's.
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Easily breaking through a concrete wall is not Building level automatically, is it?
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100% Deku should be 10-C
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No, we should wait.Dziga said:
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Chapter 198 is out, definitely one of the weirdest Quirks seen yet.
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Okay, then what exactly is the main basis for the 1-point bots being 8-C then?
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We have no idea what Shinsou's performance against them was like, just that he didn't pass the exam.
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Exam was based on rescue and villain points, wasn't it? Perhaps he got no rescue points, and just not enough villain points.
Base Deku - at that point - is rated as 9-A+ for damaging a Villain Bot, and Shinso is scaled directly to him.
You're saying that Shinsou cannot damage a Villain Bot but is roughly as strong as someone that can tear through a villain bots arm & head?
Base Deku - at that point - is rated as 9-A+ for damaging a Villain Bot, and Shinso is scaled directly to him.
You're saying that Shinsou cannot damage a Villain Bot but is roughly as strong as someone that can tear through a villain bots arm & head?
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> Base Deku is 9-A+ because he didn't defeat a Villain Bot by himself, he used an armor plate
Isn't that the same sort of logic for why Toga should be 9-A+ instead of 8-C? Because she used a knife to hurt Aizawa instead of doing it herself?
Isn't that the same sort of logic for why Toga should be 9-A+ instead of 8-C? Because she used a knife to hurt Aizawa instead of doing it herself?
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That is a speed feat.
I'm downplaying her because I believe she is overrated. None of her feats point to her being concretely 8-C IMO.
As for restraining Izuku, given that he has Peak Human strength in base, that only requires her to have Peak Human+ strength / Superhuman Strength to restrain him.
I'm downplaying her because I believe she is overrated. None of her feats point to her being concretely 8-C IMO.
As for restraining Izuku, given that he has Peak Human strength in base, that only requires her to have Peak Human+ strength / Superhuman Strength to restrain him.
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Yet we differentiate lifting strength and striking strength, no? So just holding down base Izuku isn't enough to justify 8-C AP IMO.
Also, that is a durability feat - and on a side note it didn't even look like an impressive hit tbh.
Also, that is a durability feat - and on a side note it didn't even look like an impressive hit tbh.
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You mean a rather small and unimpressive scratch on Izuku's face?
I'm fairly confident a 9-A+ person with sharp fingernails can scratch an 8-C character.
I'm fairly confident a 9-A+ person with sharp fingernails can scratch an 8-C character.
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The slashing weapon argument all over again? We could argue this for several characters you know? Why we don't downgrade every sword or knife user to a tier below because they are using a slashing weapong? That's not how it works.
> I'm fairly confident a 9-A+ person with sharp fingernails can scratch an 8-C character.
I don't think so, that would only apply if Toga's fingernails can destroy small buildings, but she can only hurt characters with 8-C in durability, also I recently calculated Bakugou's attack potency at 1.05 tons, and Izuku's durability can scale from that.
> I'm fairly confident a 9-A+ person with sharp fingernails can scratch an 8-C character.
I don't think so, that would only apply if Toga's fingernails can destroy small buildings, but she can only hurt characters with 8-C in durability, also I recently calculated Bakugou's attack potency at 1.05 tons, and Izuku's durability can scale from that.
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Well, the 'slashing weapon argument' is what is being used to supporting base Izuku's rating currently.
I think a lot of the justifications you've brought up are either not relevant to AP, or not worth justifying Toga as 8-C.
I think a lot of the justifications you've brought up are either not relevant to AP, or not worth justifying Toga as 8-C.
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I do have problems with base Izuku (as of the early Sports Fest Arc) being 8-C. We should probably save this discussion for another thread though instead of filling up the general discussion thread.
For another topic, what do you think about Shihai Kuroiro's Quirk from the latest chapter? Seems to be a kind of Limited Phasing / Possession.
For another topic, what do you think about Shihai Kuroiro's Quirk from the latest chapter? Seems to be a kind of Limited Phasing / Possession.
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Yeah, from the looks of it after Dark Shadow returned inside Tokoyami, Shihai popped out of it. I'm not sure what to make of it.
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I agree with damage. Base Izuku being 8-C is wank territory.
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But why? I mean Deku technically one-shotted that One-Point Bot.
I'm not sure how strong base Deku is right now, but if he was like 0.249 tons at the Sport Festival scaling from a baseline Building level character, it's logical that after all this time he is at the very least a little stronger, don't you think?
Edit: Speaking of other things, Bakugou's grenadier bracers allows him to use his strongest explosions without harming himself, right?
I'm not sure how strong base Deku is right now, but if he was like 0.249 tons at the Sport Festival scaling from a baseline Building level character, it's logical that after all this time he is at the very least a little stronger, don't you think?
Edit: Speaking of other things, Bakugou's grenadier bracers allows him to use his strongest explosions without harming himself, right?
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Maybe there's a flaw somewhere in our evaluating of the 1-point bot.
Couple of (hypothetical) explanations, maybe the 1-point bots are more fragile for than 0-point bots, especially since the 0-point bot is not intended to be something that the students can reasonably defeat since it has no point value.
Or maybe the landmine-caused explosion during the Sports Fest race was misleadingly portrayed and it wasn't actually an 8-C explosion (therefore making the armor plate not 8-C as well).
Couple of (hypothetical) explanations, maybe the 1-point bots are more fragile for than 0-point bots, especially since the 0-point bot is not intended to be something that the students can reasonably defeat since it has no point value.
Or maybe the landmine-caused explosion during the Sports Fest race was misleadingly portrayed and it wasn't actually an 8-C explosion (therefore making the armor plate not 8-C as well).
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