Mordru upgrade

[Amakasu]

This is my first reversion thread so if you found anything wrong please tell me.

Mordu gave enough power to wonder woman, zatanna and Others to completely dominate and defeat nabu and the other lords of order. Nabu in the same comic was going to destroy the entire sphere of the gods. which is rated low 1C here. And easily defeated the phantom stranger, and John constantine.

 

[Xearsay]

Looks good to me.

 

[Amakasu]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to make sense to me as well.

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What do you think?

 

[LuciferDC099]

Looks good.

 

[Firestorm808]

This is for Rebirth Mordru?

 

[Amakasu]

This is for Rebirth Mordru?

Yes

 

[Amakasu]

Mordu is a lot more powerful in this comic. I'm thinking of doing another upgrade thread after upside down man and hecate gets upgraded

 

[Firestorm808]

In that case, we would need to look over his current Rebirth appearances to verify the consistancy.

 

[Amakasu]

I think mordu is very consistent in this comic. I don't know if mordu has appeared in other comics in Rebirth.

 

[Garchomp777]

He should also get stuff like conceptual manipulation via being able to affect the sphere of gods

 

[Garchomp777]

And yes, this looks fine, just a straightforward feat

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps we should add a "Rebirth" statistics key to his profile page?

 

[Amakasu]

Perhaps we should add a "Rebirth" statistics key to his profile page?

That would be fine. I agree

 

[Garchomp777]

He was not affected by the crisis or any retcon, due to Acausality

 

[Garchomp777]

If he were to get another key, it would have all the previous abilities. His speed should be "faster than before"

 

[Antvasima]

Even if that is true, his power levels have still been quite inconsistent over the years. Several statistics keys seems best.

 

[Garchomp777]

His power level isn't actually inconsistent, its because his power level varies drastically, due to losing power and needing to absorb stuff

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

The rating seems fine and I agree with adding a Rebirth key.

 

[Elizio33]

Seems fine

 

[Antvasima]

Is somebody willing to add a Rebirth key then?

 

[Amakasu]

Is somebody willing to add a Rebirth key then?

So the upgrade is confirmed?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Low 1c was already discussed and rejected

 

[Amakasu]

Low 1c was already discussed and rejected

That's for Timothy Hunter and 1A lords of order and chaos I think? This is completely different. I'm going by current meta.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it seems uncontroversial to add, but maybe we should wait a bit longer for more input.

 

[Xearsay]

Low 1c was already discussed and rejected

That dismal is literally an opinion. He thinks they couldn’t have destroyed the sphere because he also thinks they can’t be that powerful. It’s an opinion backed by an opinion with 0 evidence.

I think if they’ve destroyed Myrra as easily as they did on panel. We have no reason to believe they couldn’t have ended the other realms either.

 

[Amakasu]

That dismal is literally an opinion. He thinks they couldn’t have destroyed the sphere because he also thinks they can’t be that powerful. It’s an opinion backed by an opinion with 0 evidence.

I think if they’ve destroyed Myrra as easily as they did on panel. We have no reason to believe they couldn’t have ended the other realms either.

Exactly

 

[Antvasima]

ClassicNESfan was one of our most knowledgeable members regarding this area though. It is unwise to just dismiss his conclusions.

 

[Garchomp777]

ClassicNESfan was one of our most knowledgeable members regarding this area though. It is unwise to just dismiss his conclusions.

His arguments are very flawed. He said the lords of order have never shown those feats recently. But he doesn't realise they've been getting stronger, and nothing contradicts it, and you don't need to destroy the whole sphere of gods. Everything there is accepted as low 1-c on this wiki and immeasurable and omnipresent (for godheads). Check zeus, the 5d imps, any new god for info

Oh yeah and Nabu fought the Anti Life Equation during the events of cosmic odyssey and could reverse the effects of the zero hour which was comparable to the COIE which is caused by anti monitor who is stronger than Spectres low 1-C key and straight up defeated him

I'd say even post crisis nabu is low 1-C because of that, and there aren't any anti feats

 

[Amakasu]

From what I remember the Destruction of coie is considered 2A or multiversal+

 

[Garchomp777]

From what I remember the Destruction of coie is considered 2A or multiversal+

It actually is now , so I'm gonna make a CRT soon because anti monitor defeated spectre who already is low 1-c here lol

 

[Antvasima]

Power levels are displayed very inconsistently over the years for Marvel and DC. During the CoIE event itself, the Anti-Monitor was clearly just displayed at a 2-A level. I would much prefer if you permanently stop trying to mess up our rating system. It is hard enough to keep straight as it is.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, regarding this particular thread, I suppose that Low 1-C ratings seem acceptable.

 

[Confluctor]

Wasn't Spectre weakened during that era? Him and Fate both.



I will look for relevant scans

 

[Amakasu]

Wasn't Spectre weakened during that era? Him and Fate both.



I will look for relevant scans

Spectre's power's were basically striped away from him by the presence

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah I remember something similar. So I don't see how AM should get upgraded.


Anyway, I will stop derailing. Sorry

 

[Garchomp777]

Spectre absorbed Thunderbolt's powers who on this wiki is low 1-C

 

[Amakasu]

Spectre absorbed Thunderbolt's powers who on this wiki is low 1-C

Correction, spectre banished thunderbolt to the 5th dimension and thunderbolt couldn't bfr him.

 

[Garchomp777]

IIRC Spectre took thunderbolts power in that specific fight

 

[Amakasu]

I don't remember that. I remember thunderbolt trying to first blind the spectre but fails then bfr spectre to the 5th dimension according to his master's wish which he couldn't and spectre basically deflects the attack and instead bfr's thunderbolt to the 5th dimension. Do you have the scan of him absorbing thunderbolt's power?