Minor Touhou Revision

[Promestein]

Reimu and Marisa are currently Country level with no apparent justification for this. They should probably both be dropped to Small Country level (At least Small Country level, likely higher, in Reimu's case), as that is a far more reliable tiering for them, given the many other Touhou characters currently at that tier, than something as apparently arbitrary as Country level.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Hmm. Well Reimu could have been done better but Marisa? Definitely needs to have justfication.

I agree with downgrading them to around Small Country unless someone can back up with a reason why they should be of taht level...

 

[Yamatohime]

Well, Patchy probably can dish out at least 6x10+e21 joules with her Royal Flare in one minute. Even though an average Solar Flare should produce around 10+e28-10+e29 ergs for several minutes.

 

[Promestein]

That should be discussed in the other thread, and that's still Small Country level, judging by the AP scale.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Yeah, same with Prom on the first part. Why is Patchy even mentioned here when Reimu and Marisa is the main problem and subject here?

 

[Yamatohime]

Because 10-e28 ergs for one minutes is 6x10+e22 J. And Marisa should be able to do the same damage (but probably much faster with her Master Spark).

 

[Promestein]

Again, that should be discussed on the other thread. If any upgrades end up going through on there, this thread is irrelevant.

 

[Yamatohime]

Actualy, isn't Marisa was calculated to be Country Level somehow?

P.S.: By how it looks... The both lack feats to move them above mooks.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Marisa doesn't have an AP calc on her page though?

 

[Promestein]

I thought she was, but there is no calc listed.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

There;s nothing listed on her AP so they either get downgraded, which is what i'm going, or somebody get an AP calc that can help put them on 6-B.

Tried doing that just now but no luck has came...

 

[Yamatohime]

I found very odd calc for Small Country...

Somewhere is probably calc for annihilation of Youkai mountain.

 

[Promestein]

If that calc is legitimate, it could be linked for Marisa's AP if it is downgraded to Low 6-B.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Should have DT look over that, yeah. See what he thinks of it to get it verified...

 

[Yamatohime]

I do not actualy see a problem except... Maybe volume calculation and melting... Isn't turning to ashes means vaporization (at least most of the part)?

 

[Andykhang]

Hm... I glanced at Reimu AP, and it said it's at least Country level because she destroyed the Neitherworld barrier with extreme ease, but i guess it's more because of her cheat code.

 

[Promestein]

The durability we'd have for that barrier is Small Country level, since Marisa couldn't break it. And that's why she'd be At least Small Country level.

 

[Yamatohime]

Marisa is not proficient with barriers unlike Reimu. So while brute force didn't work for Marisa... Reimu who is more knowledgable about barriers could use her knowledge.

EDIT: Basicaly Reimu could be human level and still be able to undo barrier while Marisa could be Universe Level and still look at the barrier.

 

[Promestein]

^ Also another good point.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

So....how will this turn out for Marisa and Reimu?

 

[Andykhang]

Sigh... why is nobody tried to vaporize granite, for science! I am positively sure someone have done that.

 

[Yamatohime]

So....how will this turn out for Marisa and Reimu?

Marisa should "at least Small Country level, likely much higher". Reimu should be just likely higher. At least I think so...

 

[Promestein]

I doubt Marisa should be likely much higher.

At least Small Country level is fine. But Reimu has been consistently portrayed as stronger than her, to the point that Marisa only barely keeps up.

 

[Yamatohime]

At least Small Country level is fine. But Reimu has been consistently portrayed as stronger than her, to the point that Marisa only barely keeps up.

Not stronger in sense of power but stronger via her intuition and talent alone. Additionaly Reimu has a lot of knowledge.

 

[Promestein]

Still. I really doubt Marisa should be significantly stronger in terms of raw power. At least Small Country level, likely higher, is fine.

 

[Yamatohime]

Still. I really doubt Marisa should be significantly stronger in terms of raw power. At least Small Country level, likely higher, is fine.

Well, let's wait others.

 

[Andykhang]

Ookay, turn out there's a heat capacity for vaporization for granite, so I am just going to tried to calculate this:

(this is based on the stat Yamatohime , and the Vsbattle gave us)

Mount Fuji's volume: 2,470,133,333,333 cubic meter

Granite's vaporizing point: 27050 J/cm^3 = 2,705 * 10^10 J/m^3

Result: = 6.681710667 *10^22 J


Yeah, that's a country alright.


Edit: This is in assumption that thing could vaporize it.

 

[Andykhang]

Really, I am more surprise Marisa didn't being shoot out to space with that amount of energy.

 

[Yamatohime]

Really, I am more surprise Marisa didn't being shoot out to space with that amount of energy.

Look at Alice who apparently can hold hundred of dolls on her (since she can run out of them).

 

[Andykhang]

Guess they kinda master the Inventory spell too (look at how Marisa can make clothes appear out of thin air)