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Meliodas vs Lille Barro

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like i said before, without a new calculation lille is bound to that speed alongside a "much higher" maybe. i am not arguing meliodas is mach 3 or 4 thousand just because he blitzed a mach ~2k fighter. its just the way these scalings work. we have a calculated number and we have "faster than that"

current meliodas has no problems utilizing his demon form as he is stated to have complete control over his wrath

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i mean it cant be more explicit i think.

i am sorry but "he eats an xaxis spacial shot" is not what will happen or what, even if, would kill him.
 
1871.61 mach< 2000 and a Mach 2000 character could blitz a 1871.61 mach character.


He is not speedblitzing Barro because Barro can scale to at least Mach 2000, when Meliodas is unquantifiably higher than Galan. Barro is likely faster, the half was point between Mach 1000 for Bambifodder and Mach 3500 for Ichibei is Mach 2250, which is probably the most accurate number to scale him too.
 
what? where do you get the idea a mach 2000 character can blitz a mach 1.9k character?

barro can scale to mach 2000? where and how? dividing it from 2 seperate calculations as the middle?

i am sorry but your entire last post left questions everywhere
 
Read it again. I didn't even say Mach 19k.

1871.61 mach< 2000 and a Mach 2000 character could blitz a 1871.61 mach character.

He is not speedblitzing Barro because Barro can scale to at least Mach 2000, when Meliodas is unquantifiably higher than Galan. Barro is likely faster, the half was point between Mach 1000 for Bambifodder and Mach 3500 for Ichibei is Mach 2250, which is probably the most accurate number to scale him to.
 
i think you can see that i just missed a "." when i said mach 1.9k. usually blitzing range begins in the 3/4/5 times faster region, yet it does not mean we scale such a speed to the "blitzing" characters since it would end up in calc stacking.

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and no. you cant just take 2 seperate calculations and assume lille is in the middle. he gets scaled to the lower value, just as meliodas gets scaled to the lower value.
 
In Britain at least "k" is slang for 1,000, so saying 19K is 19,000.


Also, yes a Mach 2000 can blitz a Mach 1871.61. A mach 2 can blitz a Mach 1, their speed it double his. His speed is several more times the speed of sound. A mach 1900 character could probably blitz a Mach 1871 character.
 
usain bolt runs 3 times faster than i do. yet he would never be able to throw a punch at me without me realizing

i am sorry but this is absolutely and entirely wrong
 
Scaling to the lower value makes literally no sense in this case however and it beyond lowballs and cripples Lille Barro. There is no definable blitzing range anywhere to my knowledge, assume if you want, but it's not quantifiable honestly.
 
you state yourself there is no definable blitzing range - yet argue that a mach 1.9k character could blitz a mach 1.871 character and a mach2 a mach1?
 
Running/Travel speed=/= Combat speed. He isn't trained to use his arms, he's a runner lol. Bad example.

It's not "wrong", show me a place which quantifies blitzing.
 
so you actually just base your argument of your own opinion? mach 2 blitzes mach 1 - mach 1.9k blitzes mach 1.87k?

this is your own subjective opinion, yes?
 
What I am saying is, quantify blitzing to give Mel a several hundred mach higher value than what the Galan calc showed.


He blitzed Galan, what is the requirement for a blitz. You made up your own numbers so I am also. His Mach number is what matters here.
 
i made up my own numbers? what? i merely rounded up from mach 1.9k to mach 2k. i am sorry if that was hard to understand for you. apparently the difference in the way we portray things caused the confusion.

i stated the entire time that meliodas gets no higher speed than that.

you however take a Mach 1000 calc, a Mach 3500 calc and somehow jump to the conclusion that lille is Mach 2250
 
Practically all of us int that thread agreed that Barro is at least Mach 2000+, so there isn't going to be anyblitzing going around here. I know you love Mel and support him, but Barro has multiple ways to put down Mel. Hell, what's stopping him from flying in the air and then shooting Mel and sniping him in the head?
 
Also, if Usain Bolt runs faster than you by 3x, than you're probably incredibly unfit and should go exercise a bit.
 
can you show me the "practically all of us" who agree lille is mach2000+ ?

i would appreciate you to remove your last comment regarding my person
 
a mach 1000 advantage which lets him have no problem to dodge the xaxis shots and reflect back the attacks

as i stated yes.

meliodas has the speed to speedblitz via current calculations, but that does not matter due to intangibility
 
What exactly do you think Mel is in speed?


X-axis shots are not too slow, they should be as fast as Barro himself. They were fast enough to catch him when reflected (Trompete)
 
i dont think about mels speed. i see the speed he is scaled to (mach 1.9k) and thats what i work with. the same applies to others as well.

when the axsis shots are as fast as barro himself you basically think kyou is mach 2250 which is the speed you give lille...since kyo evaded 2 of them
 
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i dont think about mels speed. i see the speed he is scaled to (mach 1.9k) and thats what i work with. the same applies to others as well.
when the axsis shots are as fast as barro himself you basically think kyou is mach 2250 which is the speed you give lille...since kyo evaded 2 of them
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And why not? Kyou is a top tier Shinigami who was even complimented by Yama for his speed. Byakuya was easily outspeeding Bambi fodder types, and Kyou is much faster than Byakuya.
 
because just because a certain character is faster than a calced value and slower than another calced value we dont use the comfortable method and put that certain character in the middle. i have responded to that in the speed thread as well.
 
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because just because a certain character is faster than a calced value and slower than another calced value we dont use the comfortable method and put that certain character in the middle. i have responded to that in the speed thread as well.
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Well, the character definitely had to be in that range of speed, and while he's not as strong as Ichibei, he definitely is not as weak as casual Bambi fodder who even Renji had no problem dealing with (especially since he was taking attacks from the faster Bazz-B)

Kyou has trouble with Barro. In fact, in base, Barro tagged Kyou while Kyou couldn't tag Barro before he resorted to playing a game. This means Barro is slightly above Kyou in speed. Who definitely is much, much faster than someone like Renji.
 
and the "much much faster" should then be added to his profile, however not as a numerical value to which no calculation exists - outside of a fan speculation "what the speed could be"
 
RavenSupreme said:
and the "much much faster" should then be added to his profile, however not as a numerical value to which no calculation exists - outside of a fan speculation "what the speed could be"
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We already have the MHS+ standing on his profile. However, I'm showing to you that Mel doesn't outspeed Barro at all. Maybe only by a tiny bit, but not enough to make a difference.
 
I am not sure what it would take for Lille Barro to win, but Meliodas is a great living challenge. Full Counter can overpower targets. Why? It doesn't just return with the same amount of damage, the damage is even greater. And we have the The X-Axis, which can tell standard durability and by possible extension, intangibility (if that's a barrier, too), to shut up and sit down and pretty much make any non-regenerative, mortal target very dead.
 
There's a justifiable emphasis on "might". It (Hell Blaze) may nullify or at least make Regenerationn useless, but intangibility is objectively different from Regenerationn. Also, The X-Axis is exceptionally powerful, even for a Schrift. There are no blatantly visible projectiles at all, and cannot be blocked, parried, or reflected easily.
 
I was saying that on purpose, in case people would claim Hell Blaze can touch intangible beings.
 
Re-read the thread and it looks like the score is 6 Lille, 2 Meliodas. It was 5 Lille 2 inconclusive 1 Mel but people changed their minds lol. Since it's a relatively close matchup, one more Lille vote should make this a win on his part
 
You do know Lille even in his true form of his Quincy: Vollstandig can use the usual X-Axis shots with his wings, right? He intentionally decided to just use the other techniques to eliminate the hiding places and an attempt to kill Shunsui, with a greater area of effect.
 
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