Naruto vs Meliodas

[Robo432343]

Naruto Uzumaki (Part II: War Arc)

Naruto Uzumaki (うずまき ナルト, Uzumaki Naruto?) is a shinobi of Konohagakure's Uzumaki clan. He became the jinchūriki of the Nine-Tails on the day of his birth — a fate that caused him to be shunned by most of Konoha throughout his childhood. After joining Team Kakashi, Naruto worked hard to gain the...

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I've resolved to find the Seven Deadly Sins with you and stop the Holy Knights. Even if you were to die, I would fulfill the promise made with you.Meliodas to Elizabeth Liones I wanted to protect everything. But I failed, and that's the sin I bear. So this time, I can't fail to protect...

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[Shadowbokunohero]

Chad Naruto

VS

Virgin Meliodas

 

[MasqueTLDF]

The amount of "even higher with ___" on Naruto's profile leads me to believing he's stronger by a decent bit, and Naruto has some decent abilities/hax that'll probably be effective against Meliodas like TSO, Shadow Clones, and his regen. So, Naruto probably wins.

 

[karo_senpaii]

what key for mel? 4koa so 700+ exatons?
So similar ap and naruto can't go higher coz he would get full counter treatment if he does
Naruto in this key likes to spam tailed beast rasenshurikens so naruto would try this first but he would then see it is to his own peril
both have speed amps so speed should not be an issue.
The shadown clones would be a big issue for mel tbh
Mel main trouble would be the TSO. He does not have resistance and naruto does not hesitate to block or throw the tso to divert attacks inthis key so i think mel would also have to fight physically. one TSO hit and it is GG. Does mel have any useful hax?

 

[karo_senpaii]

The amount of "even higher with ___" on Naruto's profile leads me to believing he's stronger by a decent bit, and Naruto has some decent abilities/hax that'll probably be effective against Meliodas like TSO, Shadow Clones, and his regen. So, Naruto probably wins.

hate to break it but regen would be negated. But yeah TSO and shadow clones are the main issue

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Sorry sensei, I'm not cut out for the thug life

 

[Robo432343]

does anyone know what ftl thing meli scales to

 

[Demon_Lord18]

does anyone know what ftl thing meli scales to

4x if Derieri calculation is being used

 

[Robo432343]

where is the FTL calc
not the FTL+ one

 

[Demon_Lord18]

where is the FTL calc
not the FTL+ one

Induras speed

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[speedster352]

Trillion dark would deal with all of Naruto’s clones so that would be a waste of chakra.

Meliodas can EE or deconstruct the truth seeker orbs or Naruto himself since the the demon king resist deconstruction and soul destruction from the goddess clan and scale to Estarossa who can resist molecular deconstruction. In other words Godeses clan deconstruction<domain of god deconstruction<demon king resistance< Meliodas deconstruction.

Also Meliodas is pretty smart if he sees that one of the naruto has those black orbs they would be the first to go.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Meliodas can EE or deconstruct the truth seeker orbs or Naruto himself since the the demon king resist deconstruction and soul destruction from the goddess clan and scale to Estarossa who can resist molecular deconstruction. In other words Godeses clan deconstruction<domain of god deconstruction<demon king resistance< Meliodas deconstruction.

Meliodas does not have Deconstruction.

Besides this being Meliodas' 4KoA key

 

[Nierre]

NNT bros, yall should make a 4KoA page for Meliodas like Naruto has a New Era profile. His profile is v bloated

 

[Majinere566]

He’s only had one showing and it’s really not much different than his NNt version

 

[Robo432343]

Goku

 

[speedster352]

Meliodas does not have Deconstruction.

Besides this being Meliodas' 4KoA key

He does with his true magic form which would be very useful here since I mentioned it shouldn’t Meliodas true magic have layered deconstruction run it by the layer evaluation thread.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Trillion dark would deal with all of Naruto’s clones so that would be a waste of chakra.

Meliodas can EE or deconstruct the truth seeker orbs or Naruto himself since the the demon king resist deconstruction and soul destruction from the goddess clan and scale to Estarossa who can resist molecular deconstruction. In other words Godeses clan deconstruction<domain of god deconstruction<demon king resistance< Meliodas deconstruction.

Also Meliodas is pretty smart if he sees that one of the naruto has those black orbs they would be the first to go.

Not really. It's not a waste as it gives him experience on the trillion dark itself. Also you are overrating trillion dark, I've never seen up to 100 even meanwhile naruto can use 2k clones without kurama chakra as a kid. plus, they have extrasensory perception and danger sensing so he may get a few but eventually they are gonna get him.
meliodas can't actually EE or deconstruct the TSO. First of all meliodas does not have a feat of erasing pure energy but if he does let me know plus did he not loose this power by actually erasing the demon king? Did he regain it in 4KOA? finally naruto has resistance to EE and the orbs do too seeing as obito was able to block madara's orbs with his so they resist their own properties. All this means is that tso would erase any trillion dark it comes in contact with because trillion dart or meliodas, neither have resistance to EE and seeing as TSO have feats of erasing ninjutsu and pure chakra that should be easy.

For the deconstruction you should probably get the 1 layer accepted but if we still accept it for this match that might be mel only troublesome attack as naruto's resistance is baseline but with the clones confusing mel and his danger sensing it would be pretty hard for him to be caught. But naruto would eventually use the TSO to erase them. I don't think you can decontruct energy tbh

 

[Delta3000]

Not really. It's not a waste as it gives him experience on the trillion dark itself. Also you are overrating trillion dark, I've never seen up to 100 even meanwhile naruto can use 2k clones without kurama chakra as a kid. plus, they have extrasensory perception and danger sensing so he may get a few but eventually they are gonna get him.
meliodas can't actually EE or deconstruct the TSO. First of all meliodas does not have a feat of erasing pure energy but if he does let me know plus did he not loose this power by actually erasing the demon king? Did he regain it in 4KOA? finally naruto has resistance to EE and the orbs do too seeing as obito was able to block madara's orbs with his so they resist their own properties. All this means is that tso would erase any trillion dark it comes in contact with because trillion dart or meliodas, neither have resistance to EE and seeing as TSO have feats of erasing ninjutsu and pure chakra that should be easy.

For the deconstruction you should probably get the 1 layer accepted but if we still accept it for this match that might be mel only troublesome attack as naruto's resistance is baseline but with the clones confusing mel and his danger sensing it would be pretty hard for him to be caught. But naruto would eventually use the TSO to erase them. I don't think you can decontruct energy tbh

Counter vanish should be able to deal with the clones.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

He does with his true magic form which would be very useful here since I mentioned it shouldn’t Meliodas true magic have layered deconstruction run it by the layer evaluation thread.

That is existential erasure

 

[karo_senpaii]

Counter vanish should be able to deal with the clones.

NGL that's a grey area. Has mel dealt with something like that before? I know it destroys magic but like can we really qualify clones like that? Plus, that requires touching every one of them. They won't just stand there. It's not like mel is faster and they have better reactions

 

[Robo432343]

should i equalize sped or no

 

[karo_senpaii]

should i equalize sped or no

speed isn't equalised? that would be really bad for naruto or mel if the ongoing thread gets approved

 

[Robo432343]

speed isn't equalised? that would be really bad for naruto or mel if the ongoing thread gets approved

 

[Robo432343]

So similar ap and naruto can't go higher coz he would get full counter treatment if he does

wdym full counter treatment

 

[karo_senpaii]

wdym full counter treatment

his multipliers are jutsu which would get reflected. I guess he could kinda use asura mode but we've never actually seen him use it fight

 

[Robo432343]

if naruto uses his multipliers then he wouldn't be stronger than meli than he already is

 

[Delta3000]

NGL that's a grey area. Has mel dealt with something like that before? I know it destroys magic but like can we really qualify clones like that? Plus, that requires touching every one of them. They won't just stand there. It's not like mel is faster and they have better reactions

It disperses magic so with energy equalisation it should work on the clones. I don't think it requires touch to work. In the anime it didn't and it was unclear in the manga due to the camera angle.

 

[Makai641001]

The amount of "even higher with ___" on Naruto's profile leads me to believing he's stronger by a decent bit,

The « higher » stats are special techniques like special rasengans that already far exceed Naruto’s durability that would get FC’d (x2) and would seriously injure Naruto.

and Naruto has some decent abilities/hax that'll probably be effective against Meliodas like TSO,

High ranking demons resist Matter manip/Deconstruction on a molecular to atomic lvl

Shadow Clones,

Meli has danmaku, Naruto also often spams rasengans or ranged ninjutsu with clones it would get deflected by Meli and litteraly one tap them.

and his regen.

It gets negated

So, Naruto probably wins.

They have similar stats i would bet on Meli FC or Vanish Counter, he could also just erase him with his TMF.

NGL that's a grey area. Has mel dealt with something like that before? I know it destroys magic but like can we really qualify clones like that? Plus, that requires touching every one of them. They won't just stand there. It's not like mel is faster and they have better reactions

His counters doesn’t need physical contact, his vanish Counter was used against Cain during Vaizel’s festival without contact, his FC can reflect thousands of attacks at once Without touching them amping them at least 2 times.

They could come try to use Taijutsu which would lead to them getting stomped by hellblaze, darkness pillars and/or trillion dark

SBA suggest strongest forms Naruto would probably try to use His strongest attacks or a Danmaku with His clones and get countered and one tapped

Meli resists TSO can null his regen send him all his « amps » back (and amp them up to 10x with lostvayne)

 

[karo_senpaii]

if naruto uses his multipliers then he wouldn't be stronger than meli than he already is

mel is 700 exatons. naruto is already stronger when cloaked

It disperses magic so with energy equalisation it should work on the clones. I don't think it requires touch to work. In the anime it didn't and it was unclear in the manga due to the camera angle.

the counter vanish i remember was the tournament in vizel and he had to touch the flames with 2 fingers to work. Besides the technique is part of full counter. If full counter in both estarossa and meliodas case requires touch as well as revenge counter I don't see how counter vanish would be different.
Also the clone stuff is still a grey area. It is jutsu given physical form. Stuff like that are always weird. It's like how zeldris is immune to magic but mael can still make magic blades and fight and hurt him

 

[speedster352]

Not really. It's not a waste as it gives him experience on the trillion dark itself. Also you are overrating trillion dark, I've never seen up to 100 even meanwhile naruto can use 2k clones without kurama chakra as a kid. plus, they have extrasensory perception and danger sensing so he may get a few but eventually they are gonna get him.
meliodas can't actually EE or deconstruct the TSO. First of all meliodas does not have a feat of erasing pure energy but if he does let me know plus did he not loose this power by actually erasing the demon king? Did he regain it in 4KOA? finally naruto has resistance to EE and the orbs do too seeing as obito was able to block madara's orbs with his so they resist their own properties. All this means is that tso would erase any trillion dark it comes in contact with because trillion dart or meliodas, neither have resistance to EE and seeing as TSO have feats of erasing ninjutsu and pure chakra that should be easy.

For the deconstruction you should probably get the 1 layer accepted but if we still accept it for this match that might be mel only troublesome attack as naruto's resistance is baseline but with the clones confusing mel and his danger sensing it would be pretty hard for him to be caught. But naruto would eventually use the TSO to erase them. I don't think you can decontruct energy tbh

The commandments are incorporeal or basically pure curse energy check the page. Meliodas can just make more trillion dark or just use an aoe darkness pillar which destroyed danafor like 10s of kilometres. But I proved that the demon king has like 2 layers of deconstruction resistance and still got deconstructed. Also true magic has deconstruction and EE. Why not just use Meliodas before the time skip? Meliodas has stealth mastery and resistance to ESP in the demon clan biology page. And he have above average intelligence so if he sees one of the Naruto’s with the the black orbs he would put 2 and 2 together.

 

[karo_senpaii]

His counters doesn’t need physical contact, his vanish Counter was used against Cain during Vaizel’s festival without contact, his FC can reflect thousands of attacks at once Without touching them amping them at least 2 times.

They could come try to use Taijutsu which would lead to them getting stomped by hellblaze, darkness pillars and/or trillion dark

SBA suggest strongest forms Naruto would probably try to use His strongest attacks or a Danmaku with His clones and get countered and one tapped

Meli resists TSO can null his regen send him all his « amps » back (and amp them up to 10x with lostvayne)

1.show me a scan where mel uses his counters without touch. Also dead the FC arguments coz no one is using jutsu here
2. No kurama cloak would protect them from hellblaze and trillion darts cannot deal with 2k clones with precog and danger sensing
3. strongest forms=/ strongest attack. Naruto most times start with clones to gather info and know the opponents abilities. Not to mention that form of naruto is used to fighting enemies he can't use jutsu on. Naruto has multiple speed amps like shunsin, boil release and he has far higher perception with sage mode and danger sensing. It would be extremely hard to tag him
4. Mel cannot resist EE. He dies immediately
5. The justification for mel's 700 exatons already comes from his magic imbued weaponry. There is no further amp

 

[Demon_Lord18]

No kurama cloak would protect them from hellblaze and trillion darts cannot deal with 2k clones with precog and danger sensing

Meliodas spins the Dark Trillion around himself to protect himself, so no Naruto clones are passing through.

 

[Robo432343]

Meliodas spins the Dark Trillion around himself to protect himself, so no Naruto clones are passing through.

wouldn't that just get destroyed because of the ap

 

[Demon_Lord18]

The justification for mel's 700 exatons already comes from his magic imbued weaponry. There is no further amp

No, the 756 Exatons come from their Demon Marks

 

[karo_senpaii]

The commandments are incorporeal or basically pure curse energy check the page. Meliodas can just make more trillion dark or just use an aoe darkness pillar which destroyed danafor like 10s of kilometres. But I proved that the demon king has like 2 layers of deconstruction resistance and still got deconstructed. Also true magic has deconstruction and EE. Why not just use Meliodas before the time skip? Meliodas has stealth mastery and resistance to ESP in the demon clan biology page. And he have above average intelligence so if he sees one of the Naruto’s with the the black orbs he would put 2 and 2 together.

Can you link the part of the page. I'm sorry but the profiles are ass. Making how many? we stick to his limit and I've never even seen a hundred trillion darts. His darkness pillar may be a good thing but how many times can he spam such darkness? coz naruto can repeatedly make the clones just fine. Proving the deconstruction isn't the issue, the issue is that is it accepted?. IF you change the profile to use true magic then well there would be a huge ap discrepancy.
Above intelligence? reallyetsu is wayyy smarter than mel but he still got fooled

 

[speedster352]

1.show me a scan where mel uses his counters without touch. Also dead the FC arguments coz no one is using jutsu here
2. No kurama cloak would protect them from hellblaze and trillion darts cannot deal with 2k clones with precog and danger sensing
3. strongest forms=/ strongest attack. Naruto most times start with clones to gather info and know the opponents abilities. Not to mention that form of naruto is used to fighting enemies he can't use jutsu on. Naruto has multiple speed amps like shunsin, boil release and he has far higher perception with sage mode and danger sensing. It would be extremely hard to tag him
4. Mel cannot resist EE. He dies immediately
5. The justification for mel's 700 exatons already comes from his magic imbued weaponry. There is no further amp

Meliodas can keep making trillion dark or just use his aoe darkness pillars that have 10s of kilometres range on his profile. Meliodas resists telepathy and and ESP so he would be hard to predict.

 

[karo_senpaii]

No, the 756 Exatons come from their Demon Marks

It comes from his trillion darts hurting author you are right ( it's weird coz that should be his strongest attack)

But I just realised naruto has invulnerability so mel can't use magic

 

[speedster352]

It comes from his trillion darts hurting author you are right ( it's weird coz that should be his strongest attack)

But I just realised naruto has invulnerability so mel can't use magic

Magic is not chakra also darkness is physical matter. Meliodas does have deconstruction called tyrant killing which worked on the SD who also resist deconstruction.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Meliodas spins the Dark Trillion around himself to protect himself, so no Naruto clones are passing through.

Naruto clones have higher apand the clones are not to defeat him. Just distract him enough to us tso and it's over. I'm yet to hear mel's counter for TSO

Meliodas can keep making trillion dark or just use his aoe darkness pillars that have 10s of kilometres range on his profile. Meliodas resists telepathy and and ESP so he would be hard to predict.

Once again i have never seen mel make up to 100 trillion dark. Let me put this into perspective Naruto as a kid can make 2k clones. With kurama chakra his chakra quantity goes up by over 30 times asper kakashi's statement and that is through kurama chakra leaking out and not when he is unsealed. This also does not take into account all the other chakra he recieved like SOSP or 8 tailed beast. To be clear naruto can repetively make 2k+ clones for a very long time even if they keep getting destroyed and this is assuming for the darkness pillars. Naruto won't be affected by the way due to invulnerability.

Finally mel according to his profile resist perception manipulation. I did not see ESP

 

[Robo432343]

which worked on the SD who also resist deconstruction.

not on profile

also Meli needed Zeldris to do that??