The best someone could argue in favor of him being stronger is because his duel wielding mjolnir and Stormbreaker. But even then he still gets Uber stomped by thanos so eh
The only time actor input counts as WoG is if the actor had a notable input on the script, directing or has statements saying that they have input over the character (such as the actor for Walter White having statements about how Walter should act and saying he wouldn't do certain things).
Few problems, MCU top tiers have Relativistic+ reactions and combat speeds now. All their lifting strength should be Pre-stellar do too scaling above Khonshu's moon moving feat, only Gorr should get stellar LS with the necrosword. Also I thought we were going with "5-A, possibly 4-C" Instead of outright 4-C.Here are my blogs for Zeus and Gorr if that's needed, they have to be edited though
Zeus (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
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Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Wait, is Zeus alive?Here are my blogs for Zeus and Gorr if that's needed, they have to be edited though
Zeus (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Lol, someone skipped the after credits
Like I said, they need some edits
Also, Zeus having a statue and being respected for his wisdom does not mean he is stronger than Celestials or Khonsu. The basis of this crt is incredibly flawed, and I honestly do not understand how so many are agreeing with this.
The threat of Gorr exist...Ra exist at the top of the egyptian pantheon
When did Gorr move a star? Also, can you prove Zeus knows the full power of every god, and can accurately make that statement? As well, how does Thor know the gods power? Plus you still haven’t addressed the scaling issues this would cause, and how this would destroy scaling for the whole entire verse. You also can’t just say “It just works” and move on.
Maybe idk read the CRT and actually see who scales and how this in fact just doesn't remotely destroy the scaling
So there's not only a clip of this you would've saw if you actually read but also a calc of it that hits 4-C as well
Geez the leader of a city of gods whose led it for likely millenia and is at the top doesn't know anything about his fellow gods he's leading but for some reason knows of the necrosword and is somehow more reliable there in your eyes it seems than him knowing about the peeps he leads?
Calm down son, I did read the crt, and I am still very confused. How will this work with Hela, Loki with Gungir, and of the other people that were superior to Thor in the past?
Yeah, that’s not in the op, so don’t blame me for not knowing. The op should be edited to reflect what has changed.So there's not only a clip of this you would've save if you actually read but also a calc of it that hits 4-C as well
Valkyrie not contradicting him doesn’t mean anything, she wouldn’t know either.
Please stop this attitude. Me disagreeing with the crt somehow means I’m biased? Wouldn’t that mean you agreeing with the crt means you are biased as well?
None of them scale to 2024 Thor. Hela fought and overpowered 2017 Thor, which was prior to all his training to get back in shape and shit. Loki with Gungnir fought Thor before he even had his true powers discovered and was implied to be holding back
If you read you'd know they'd have 0 chance of backscaling as THOR LITERALLY TRAINED TO GET STRONGER so no one has any reason to backscale
It is on this page and the profile blogs though
My guy she was around since Hela and Odin's old reign why wouldn't she know please tell me
No attitude fam just bewilderment and a bit of sarcasm
But him training doesn’t mean he got stronger to an extreme magnitude.
First, when was it said she was around for Hela’s old reign? Second, her being old doesn’t mean she knows.
Not explaining why not my guy do you have an arguement here aside from how you feel
Geez maybe when they established that she was around since then when the Valkyrie were still a thing and that when Hela turned they were sent to stop her because ya know she was around as we saw in that dope ass flashback
My guy you literally have yet to disprove any of our claims or provide evidence for yours the whole arguement you present is one out of concern for them having a tier that's too high for your liking if you're done then okay but don't pretend like you said anything worthwhile
I have. Gorr never moved a star, you never disproved the scaling issues, just because it can happen in Dragon Ball doesn’t mean it can happen in the MCU, but you ignored everything.
The literal reason for the possibly 4-C but go off ig
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Is that right? Nah
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Dragon ball is literally just being used as an example as its like one of the most common things in fiction to have great jumps in power after training so it seems you're willing taking that basic fact in the most backwards interpertation if you take problem with that then do a wiki wide CRT if training to get stronger makes a character jump a massive amount in power isn't something you approve of
4A is his telekinesis ?
The calcer isn’t convinced he moved the sun and made many assumptions for that.The literal reason for the possibly 4-C but go off ig
Gorr spins a sun (i think)
My man, these verses are not comparable. Dragon Ball has in universe things like ki, zenkai boosts, things that don’t apply to the MCU. As well, in Dragon Ball mental elements affect things, but in the MCU, the closest there is to that is Thor’s mental state affecting his power in Endgame, but his mental state didn’t change during his training, so that doesn’t work.
Hence the possibly rating because it's a little contentious but we did have long talks about it which is why it's here and we at least recognize it as a potential feat
Entirely missing the point to focus on dragon ball once again, just unfollow the thread my guy
Man when you don't read the thread it really makes you say crazy things like this because guess what ODIN DOESN'T SCALE SO THERE'S NOTHING TO THROW OUT
Yeah but we can still refer to the common feat for moving a sun sized star ftl speeds which is 4-C still but yeah it still needs an evaluation
There's a common feat for this?
You can’t be ******* serious. YOU are the one who brought up Dragon Ball, I said why that’s meaningless and then you back pedal and say it doesn’t matter.
So why mention Odin at all?
Yup
One nah I'm not the first person to make this comparsion in this thread and two you literally haven't had anything to disprove that Thor's training can't make him this strong aside from it not feeling right to you or being dumb to you which is all well and good for you but it doesn't mean a thing here
Geez maybe odin and the other gods and feats that are 5-A, 4-C, 4-B, and 4-A were all mentioned to set a precedent for gods having feats of that level in the OPs arguement for 3-C just a crazy though idk
I don’t care what other people brought up. You brought it up to me as a reason why it makes sense, I disproved it, and now you still are saying it’s logical.
First off, stop being so disrespectful. I’ve been trying to be respectful to you. Second, this can’t be real. You say Odin doesn’t scale and then say his feats are reasons why this tiering makes sense?Geez maybe odin and the other gods and feats that are 5-A, 4-C, 4-B, and 4-A were all mentioned to set a precedent for gods having feats of that level in the OPs arguement for 3-C just a crazy though idk
Those two things have nothing to do with each other. As well, why bring Odin up at all? First you say he matters, then he doesn’t matter, then he matters, then he doesn’t?
The crt is so poorly organized and the arguments are so confusing I don’t get the arguments.
That is on me, I’ll admit. I’m sorry.Still wrong actually which shows you're not reading, you said this in me not mentioning dragon ball once but I did after you mentioned it
Look here and go to what you responded to or what I said prior to that post there are no mentions of dragon ball from me not until you mentioned it
Odin's 4-B feat mattered as precedent for the 3-C scaling to go with the consistency of gods outside of celestials having those highered tiered feats but that doesn't matter because 3-C is rejected and there's quite literally 0 backscaling to odin and there wouldn't have been either way it was quite literally an arguement of consistency for gods in the MCU having higher tiered feats to support @The_one_you_least_expect 3-C arguement which again HAS BEEN REJECTED FOR THE 5-A konshu scaling
So Odin doesn’t matter? Ok, then he shouldn’t have ever been mentioned. The op hasn’t been updated, so it’s hard for me to see what the new scaling is. Still, the power growth that would’ve had to been undergone is completely nonsensical, and it has not been explained how Thanos will scale to this, and how it will work.
He doesn't and there will be scaling note to address this
