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Mcu Thor and friends upgrade to tier 3

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Qawsedf234 said:
@Colonel_Krukov @LordGriffin1000 @Sir_Ovens @GyroNutz @Emirp sumitpo @KLOL506 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, @Propellus @Aguywhodoesthings @KingTempest @M3X 2.0

If you're able, could you weigh in on the proposed scaling. Right now the two sides are "5-A (Upscaling from Moon Knight), possibly/likely 4-C (Gorr moving a star)" or "5-A, possibly/likely 3-C (Scaling to Celestials)"
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I have no horse in this race and I do not wish to contribute to this particular thread simply because of Love and Thunder's marred quality control. Apologies in advance.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Btw, should the Necrosword get a profile? If yes, I'm okay to make it if no one else is already dealing with it or wants to
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I feel like the Necrosword probably warrants a profile. Maybe Thunderbolt also (it was used by three different characters, so a separate weapon page to link to seems like it would be convenient).
 
Okay, I lied, I can contribute slightly.

Among the Egyptian God scaling stuff, Ra should preferably be included because he was there in Omnipotence City.

The Pre-Stellar stuff should also have the mention of the appropriate characters (Khonshu, Ammit and Ra), the same as the AP. Or slightly tweaked. With a "Possibly Stellar" rating based on Gorr's stuff.

And Zeus recovered from the wound, it wasn't mortal to him, but it did put him out of commission pretty badly. So the "mortally wounded" should be replaced with "Grievously wounded".

And with that, I bid adieu.
 
Lacku said:
I was checking my sandbox for Love and Thunder Thor and I was just wondering should we merge Thors Post-Awakening and Endgame keys into one since they're both basically the same strength (even though Endgame Thor is a bit stronger), the only difference between the two is that the Endgame key has Mjolnir but even then he shouldn't have "higher" because of it since Mjolnir is only as strong as he is
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Qawsedf234 said:
I'm fine with this.
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MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
Sure
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Here's the list of powers I've noted for the Necrosword

Regeneration (Mid-Low) & Immortality Negation (Type 2 and 3, can kill gods, including ones like Zeus, despite their regenerative abilities), Darkness Manipulation (Can generate shadows for various purposes), Power Bestowal (Grants the user the ability to control shadows), Teleportation and Dimensional Travel (Allows the owner to teleport to other locations and dimensions using shadows), Summoning (Can summon Shadow Monsters), Life Manipulation (Links the users's life-force to the Necrosword), Telepathy (Can communicate with others to tempt them), Corruption (The sword corrupts the user's mind to make them murderous)
 
Random observation: it seems like between statements in Black Panther and her presence at the Golden Temple in Omnipotence City, there might be enough information for Bast to get a profile, scaling from other Egyptian gods. Granted that can wait, seeing as there's the possibility of further statements in Wakanda Forever.
 
Meh I'm not sure of that honestly, she wouldn't have many things to add in her profile, her PA section alone would be pretty empty ultimately aside from some hypothetical stuff based on what the other Egyptian Gods have shown
 
Btw, friendly reminder that Ammit killed the avatars of almost all Egyptian Gods so they don't have an anchor in the mortal realm anymore while many others were imprisonned in statues long before the events of Moon Knight and she's ultimately killed herself. This means that now, Ra, Bast (possibly) and Khonshu are the only Egyptian Gods left active in the universe. And since Ra seemingly isn't interested in doing much and Bast either doesn't do anything herself or focuses her attention almost solely on Wakanda, this means Khonshu is now pretty much free to do whatever the hell he wants without his pantheon interferring.
 
KLOL506 said:
Among the Egyptian God scaling stuff, Ra should preferably be included because he was there in Omnipotence City.

The Pre-Stellar stuff should also have the mention of the appropriate characters (Khonshu, Ammit and Ra), the same as the AP. Or slightly tweaked. With a "Possibly Stellar" rating based on Gorr's stuff.
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I addressed that here
ArkhamDC06 said:
Immortality Negation (Type 2 and 3, can kill gods, including ones like Zeus, despite their regenerative abilities)
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Shouldn't it be Regeneration Negation instead of Immortality?
 
RoTt35 said:
Shouldn't it be Regeneration Negation instead of Immortality?
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Well Zeus would have Type 2 and 3 and the Necrosword can kill gods like him so it should have Immortality Negation as well

About that, the sword can reconstruct itself when shattered to pieces unless all the pieces are destroyed, how would it translate in terms of abilities?
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Meh I'm not sure of that honestly, she wouldn't have many things to add in her profile, her PA section alone would be pretty empty ultimately aside from some hypothetical stuff based on what the other Egyptian Gods have shown
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That would be a bit of a roadblock. She should have immortality, transformation (into a panther) and the ability to show visions (telepathy?) among her abilities, but pretty much anything else would indeed be largely guesswork unless there's further statements somewhere in the comics/guidebooks.
 
KLOL506 said:
Yeah, pretty sure the Gods are stated to be capable of dying of old age as per Loki and Odin's words.
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This was specifically aimed at Asgardians to dismiss Loki's claim about having the right to rule over the Earth as a god, nothing suggests gods like Zeus or the Egyptian pantheon do age, plus Immortality type 2 and 3 aren't about being ageless
 
Don't know, Odin was stated to be the most powerful individual in the universe in the past but Zeus seems to the top god of all pantheons in the MCU (or at least that's how he's seen since even gods like Ra look like they're almost worshipping him)
 
Lemongifted101 said:
If in comics one
Greeco Roman gods are actually immortal (Likely in real mytho)
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Yeah, Greco-Roman Gods are totally immortals and unkillable, that's why the first six Olympians survived being eaten by Kronos and why the Olympians settled for imprisonning the Titans instead of killing them. The only notable instance of Gods being killed in Greek mythology was Zeus killing off Asclepios because he was resurrecting the dead and Hades was NOT happy about it so Zeus got rid of the problem (but it's Zeus, the king of the Gods withh all the special privilieges he has over the rest of the Gods so it's a very specific case) and there's a creature called the Ophiotaurus that can grant the power to harm and kill Gods to whoever kills it and burns its entrails. Aside from that, the general rule is that Greek deities are absolutely immortal (though they can be permanently crippled like what Kronos did to Ouranos)
 
shouldnt everyone upgraded by this also get MFTL+ from khonshu moving the sky, no reason for one specific ability from one specific god to be able to utterly, monstrously blitz every other god
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
Yeah, Greco-Roman Gods are totally immortals and unkillable, that's why the first six Olympians survived being eaten by Kronos and why the Olympians settled for imprisonning the Titans instead of killing them. The only notable instance of Gods being killed in Greek mythology was Zeus killing off Asclepios because he was resurrecting the dead and Hades was NOT happy about it so Zeus got rid of the problem (but it's Zeus, the king of the Gods withh all the special privilieges he has over the rest of the Gods so it's a very specific case) and there's a creature called the Ophiotaurus that can grant the power to harm and kill Gods to whoever kills it and burns its entrails. Aside from that, the general rule is that Greek deities are absolutely immortal (though they can be permanently crippled like what Kronos did to Ouranos)
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Damn, someone knows their Greek Mythology. What about Ares? Wasn’t there an implication that if he wasn’t saved from the jar, he could’ve possibly died.
 
RanaProGamer said:
Damn, someone knows their Greek Mythology. What about Ares? Wasn’t there an implication that if he wasn’t saved from the jar, he could’ve possibly died.
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If I recall, he was said to be on his last breaths when Hermes released him but I don't remember if he was straight up dying or on the brink of passing out due the giants who got him badly wounding him
 
Lemongifted101 said:
I know Thor has profiles for years but why not upgrade him if any mods admins ministers approved his upgrade ?
Or just need more approved from them?
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We are we have to properly word the justifications for upgrades...that's like how anything ever gets done if the justifications worded are faulty or bad then obviously you wouldn't want to put that out
 
Lacku said:
The Russo's have contradicted this though and have gone on record saying that Thor was actually stronger in Endgame, I'd still argue that both those keys are too similar to be split into two still
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Then that makes it pretty inconsistent regarding his power during Endgame. But fair enough
 
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