Take this with a grain of salt, doesn't come from S-tier reliability leaker
What happens with ultron and the normal watcher ?
That’s not really a name for the form and more that he’s just a good guy/hero now
How so? Ultron is the same in function until he melds with the Nexus fragment instead of ascending through awareness of The Watcher. I can't think of any MCU characters who have this, but some MHA characters have this sort of branching path in.
Ultron seen in Season 3 is just a variant. And for variants, instead of adding a key to the character they are a variant of, we create a new profile for the variant. For example Loki and infinity ultron. We didn't add the variant loki as a key to the main loki's profile or add infinity ultron as a key to the main ultron. We just created new Profiles.
No we don’t he’s literally the exact same ultron but absorbed the shard that doesn’t deserve a new profile but a new key
Also this new Ultron has a different personality. The old Ultron would have destroyed them instantly bu this Ultron did not. And I'm sure tomorrow this Ultron will be called by a different name.
It’s the same Ultron it’s just that one realized his goal was was stupid after sitting there doing nothing for thousands of years this is no different then endgame thanos endgame Thanos doesn’t have a new profile but a key and endgame thanos is a variant
I think the difference between Loki and Ultron is that a lot of different occurred with Loki. Ultron simply didn't ascend, personality shift aside, and then got a power boost. Loki lacks 6 years of mainline experience, but he has an infinite amount of experience to ascend. The difference is basically nonexistent for Ultron, more akin to Spider-Man gaining a power boost from the Iron Spider before growing without it.
Well there's TV Tropes calling him Infinity Ultron (Earth-TRN16)
Nah he’s a watcher so that doesn’t work his key name should just be like infinity ultron (Watcher)
It's a bit of a stretch if the episode doesn't outright give him the title/name
I just hope they don’t introduce this new ultron form and he like dies or gives all his power to the other heroes I want him to make it all the way to the end
we didn’t give endgame thanos a new profile despite being a variant we gave him a new key this ultron is exactly the same as normal one until he gets the shard there is no difference it makes no sense to create an entirely new profile when it’s exactly the same as the normal one but adding this key when we could just had the key on the already existing ultron showing what happens when ultron absorbs the shard
Not the same ultron, just a similar variant. And we created profiles for each variant. If we did as you say, the variant Loki would not have profile. Also we didn't give Thanos a key.
exactly the same endgame thanos is a variant and he doesn’t have a new profile ultron is literally just Ultron until he absorbs the shard quite literally no difference the variant Loki has a profile because he has different experiences abilities outfits works with the TvA etc
Thanos doesn't have the key. So that doesn't help you with this. And This Ultron being a variant means it's different from the old Ultron. If he wasn't different, he wouldn't be a variant. And This Ultron has different experiences than the old Ultron, this Ultron has different abilities, this Ultron has a different look, and like the variant Loki working with the TVA, this Ultron is working with the guardians of the multiverse, and this Ultron has a different worldview.
Thanos is different why doesn’t he have a profile? They are the same ultron making a new profile won’t work because when you get to this new ones feats a new profile can’t have the feats of the other one because this one never fought the watcher even tho we know both are the same ultron
Why doesn't he have a key? This Ultron is not the same as the same old Ultron. They said in the episode that Old Ultron is different from all the other variants. And as I said, we created new profiles for each variant.
It is the same ultron that’s what you aren’t understanding it’s exactly the same ultron they did the exact same ways only this one never meets the watcher they said in the show any ultron would do because every ultron in the multiverse is the same they all wipe there universe then stand there there for eternity they didn’t even expect that ultron to change his ideals their original plan was to reprogram him showing all ultron are basically the same
