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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread
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INB4 we will never escape the curse of Stark creating villains for Spidey
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I swear if Doctor Strange gets nerfed against these new villains, we riot
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INB4 the raimi films had a version of Tony Stark, and he was a rival to norman osborn, and Stark owned the machine that turned william into the sandman owoPls nooo
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Mjolnir channels Thor's power. The hammer itself would be 6-C in dura scaling to Endgame. Thor could only do High 7-C levels of destruction because he didn't have that anime moment where he believed in himself until Ragnarok.
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Ah I see
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It's still a Spider-Man movie first and foremost. I believe Strange will have very little to do with the actual fighting and will be more involved with the multiverse stuff that will lead into Multiverse of Madness.
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Also this? Because Iron Man's Mark 6 lasers are stated as City level or 47.801147227533462569 Megatons of TNT. It's kinda iffy imo, but I thought I might as well point it out
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Ok if i wasn't hyped before i am now, Dr strange is lowkey a fkn beast hes already dropping multiversal statements i wonder how hes gonna top it in multiverse of madness.
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You'll have to check that one with staff probably to see if it can be used because it is indeed iffy but at least it'd be something we can probably use to buff out some mid/high tiersAlso this? Because Iron Man's Mark 6 lasers are stated as City level or 47.801147227533462569 Megatons of TNT. It's kinda iffy imo, but I thought I might as well point it out
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If we really take this, the fact his earliest suit's lasers have more power than the hulkbuster is sadAlso this? Because Iron Man's Mark 6 lasers are stated as City level or 47.801147227533462569 Megatons of TNT. It's kinda iffy imo, but I thought I might as well point it out
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Meme potential is in full effect with this one
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Massive wheeze
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I see, so she's inderd above baseline, how much number the baseline 6-C again?
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4.3 gigatons and for the record the snap is 5 gigatons and Thanos endured that.
Awakened Thor is 3.7 gigatons I believe so that's where the High 7-A comes from
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Just wondering, but why was Low 6-B and High 6-B MCU downgraded?
Also it's funny how the god tiers so conveniently have a High 7-A+ feat and a baseline 6-C feat lmao
Also it's funny how the god tiers so conveniently have a High 7-A+ feat and a baseline 6-C feat lmao
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EXCUSE ME WHAT!??? WHEN WAS THAT A THING, MY DAY IS RUINED AND MY DISAPPOINTMENT IS IMMEASURABLE
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AFAIK, they were originally High 6-B, then Low 6-B, then 7-B, then High 7-A+ to 6-C
Also I swear to god there's a statement about Thor being able to destroy Sokovia somwhere but I can't find it smh. Could Thor's Mjolnir mountain shake feat be calculated?
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Yeah we're going to need these back
let's see the scale of these other phase 4 films and completely surpass that level (Thor 4, MoM, Shang-Chi apparently, Eternals, and potentially Cap Marvel)
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5 Gigatons, that make Hela AP above 5 Gigatons
Hmmm....still not enough for competeting with a 10 Gigatons or 24 Gigatons opponents
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Yeah lol that's a stomp
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I mean... it's a less than 2x gap and less than 4.8 x gap. Not enough for an AP stomp
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Yeah that's fine her abilities can also influence a battle like that but it's the 24 Gigatons that I was referring to as being a stomp
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It's an under 4.8x difference. It needs to be a 7.5x difference in order for an AP stomp
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Long ago, in times now nearly forgotten, the MCU was High 6-B and later got downgraded to Low 6-B.
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How much we multiplied the above baseline? Which result we get?
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Just saw the teaser. I'll admit, my excitement for the MCU has returned. Feels like some nerd fantasy.
Also, Strange has fire manip now and of course, that famous spell destabilizing space-time...Low 2-C or even 2-C? Oh that seems great.
Also, Strange has fire manip now and of course, that famous spell destabilizing space-time...Low 2-C or even 2-C? Oh that seems great.
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Ah okay I thought it was less
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Iron Man 2 made a point of treating those lasers as the Iron Man Mk. 6 armor's strongest attack, which he could only use once before burning out their power cartridges, and IIRC he wasn't really using them more than once or twice in a row even with later suits, so they shouldn't scale to him physically or to the rest of his attacks.(see here for a compilation) So if we accept this statement, he would be High 8-C/8-B, 8-B overtime, 7-B with lasers.Also this? Because Iron Man's Mark 6 lasers are stated as City level or 47.801147227533462569 Megatons of TNT. It's kinda iffy imo, but I thought I might as well point it out
This would bump the High 7-C characters up to 7-B, as these supposedly 47.8 megaton lasers were unable to pierce Chitauri Leviathan armor (00:35 in the video linked above), while Hulk and Thor of course had no problem destroying them. With the midway point of 7-B being 53.15 megatons not too far above the 47.8 megaton laser statement, this could arguably put anyone on Hulk/Thor's level at 7-B+. Do note that Chitauri Leviathans shouldn't scale to 7-B outside of armor durability, as I don't believe they ever harmed anyone on that level, and Iron Man's Mk. 7 armor could still critically wound them in areas unprotected by their armor.
Again, all of this assumes we accept this statement, though it does have the MCU Red Stamp, which I believe are all considered canon (except the GOTG Prelude, which James Gunn specifically chose to disregard as canon and contradicted in GOTG2 Vol. 2)
EDIT: Added updated compilation video with missing laser feats added in
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Oh wow. That's neat. If we accept the adaptations as canon to the movies I could make a CRT. I dunno if it could upscale enough to 7-B+ tho
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Could be greatly useful for an upgrade. Also I remember the MCU actually was 7-B at a time (I mean characters like Hulk, Thanos and co).
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They were on a much lower level of 7-B, I think like 15 Megatons-ish? This is much higher than that
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True. This if this get accepted, they will be on the higher level. Very promising, especially with Shang Chi coming.
What do you think about Octopus and Goblin's potential tier here? They should be equivalent to Peter since they will fight him.
What do you think about Octopus and Goblin's potential tier here? They should be equivalent to Peter since they will fight him.
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I was told we can use the comic. I'm making the CRT now. Expect it by today hopefully
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Part of me hoping the 6-C would stay but making the higher than baseline lel
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7-B would only be for the current High 7-C tiers and co, not the High 7-A or 6-C I think.
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Let's go my comrades
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