MCU General CRT⁴

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Yes the title was "inspired" by RoTt35's other CRTs, but I dunno how to format the 4 the same way lmao
EDIT: RoTt35 has since typed it out on the MCU Phase 5 Discussion Thread, I have now copy-pasted it onto the title

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Namor​

He currently doesn't have any scaling to his durability, since his only AP feat listed right now is overpowering Shuri, who is 8-C, so his AP should be downgraded to "At least 8-C"

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Leviathans​

Credit to Dinobot1996:
One Leviathan was about to eat Rocket Raccoon, so it should at the very least get a "possibly Low 7-C" (maybe a solid rating if one wants to argue for it), since it seems like Rocket was clearly in danger had Tony's Snap not killed the Leviathan

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The Destroyer​

As stated here, its energy beam is made of fire, so it should get Fire Manipulation

The Destroyer uses a beam of fire, how did you design and animate it?
Richard Sutherland, CG Supervisor // Based on the initial concepts from Marvel, we did a variety of tests to find the right balance between fire and energy in the beam. It had shoot quickly, like a laser, but seem like it was made of fire. Finding the right balance of licking, trailing flame and hot energy core was tricky, but I think we found a good balance. In the end the beam was a combination of volumetric fire simulations, and rendered geometry.

The beam also caused an explosion by blasting the ground, so it should get Explosion Manipulation

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Thor​

• Pre-Awakening Thor should get Resistance to Fire Manipulation, since he tanked the Destroyer's fiery energy explosion without harm
• Post-Awakening Thor should get Resistance to Electricity Manipulation, since he can withstand channeling his lightning through his body and even withstood his own "biggest lightning blast in the history of lightning"

 

[Excellence616]

I agree

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

So Leviathans would only have Low 7-C for AP via biting/piercing damage?

AP: 8-C, likely/possibly Low 7-C
SS: 8-C
DR: 7-B

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

So Leviathans would only have Low 7-C for AP via biting/piercing damage?

AP: 8-C, likely/possibly Low 7-C
SS: 8-C
DR: 7-B

Don't see why it wouldn't scale to SS. Biting someone is SS

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Don't see why it wouldn't scale to SS. Biting someone is SS

Biting and Striking are entirely different things

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Biting and Striking are entirely different things

That was my impression when some characters have the same SS as their AP when the scaling comes from a biting feat, but if what you say is right and I'm wrong, then sure

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

That was my impression when some characters have the same SS as their AP when the scaling comes from a biting feat, but if what you say is right and I'm wrong, then sure

Can you link an example I want to see it

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Can you link an example I want to see it

Gums

Gums is a Dragon-level Mysterious Being and a member of the Monster Association. It is a large rotund monster with two arms and two legs. Its head contains no features other than an incredibly large mouth that lacks any lips. Gums doesn't appear to be intelligent and is incapable of speech...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

That's a really bare bones profile, and it shouldn't even have a rating for it's Striking Strength since Gum's whole schtick is biting and eating. Unlike Pig God whose shown to be willing to ram enemies instead of eating them which qualifies for Striking Strength.

 

[LordTracer]

This looks good to me.

 

[RoTt35]

Seems fine, I was going to make another general CRT myself since I was planning to add some things, but you beat me to it

 

[SheevShezarrine]

I don't mind Leviathans upscaling from the Guardians, but wouldn't Rocket have died regardless of AP difference on account of being more than small enough to get swallowed and digested?

 

[SheevShezarrine]

That's a really bare bones profile, and it shouldn't even have a rating for it's Striking Strength since Gum's whole schtick is biting and eating. Unlike Pig God whose shown to be willing to ram enemies instead of eating them which qualifies for Striking Strength.

Biting qualifies as lifting as well as striking considering it can be done in a brief timeframe and does piercing damage, unlike something like a chokehold

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I don't mind Leviathans upscaling from the Guardians, but wouldn't Rocket have died regardless of AP difference on account of being more than small enough to get swallowed and digested?

That's partly why it's a "possibly" rating, unless there is a more solid feat somewhere out there

 

[Lonkitt]

Seems fine

 

[LordGriffin1000]

The additions/updates look ok. I think a possibly Low 7-C works for the Big fish.

 

[RoTt35]

This was accepted surprisingly quickly, I guess I'll be able to do my CRT sooner than expected

 

[Jaakor48]

As for Namor, shouldn't his durability scale to cap's shield, at least when it comes to slashing/piercing damage

He took far less deep cuts, while dehydrated, from the panther suit vibranium claws than Cap's shield did (during the civil war movie)

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

As for Namor, shouldn't his durability scale to cap's shield, at least when it comes to slashing/piercing damage

He took far less deep cuts, while dehydrated, from the panther suit vibranium claws than Cap's shield did (during the civil war movie)

This is derailing from the purpose of this CRT, but I'm not seeing it. I'm rewatching the scenes, and Shuri's claws create very red blood marks and pierce deeper into Namor's skin than T'Challa's claws did against Cap's shield

Personally, I genuinely can't even tell whether the claws damaged the shield at all, aside from scratching off the paint. But maybe that's just me

 

[Jaakor48]

This is derailing from the purpose of this CRT,

I thought you wanted to downgrade namor because he doesn't actually scale to anyone? My bad tho, I guess it needs its own CRT

but I'm not seeing it. I'm rewatching the scenes, and Shuri's claws create very red blood marks and pierce deeper into Namor's skin than Black Panther's claws did against Cap's shield

Well yea, it's red, namor has blood understand his skin. Her claws broke his skin, but it didn't seem to go deeper than that

Personally, I genuinely can't even tell whether Black Panther's claws damaged the shield at all, aside from scratching off the paint. But maybe that's just me

it definitely scratched the shield itself. But this is for another CRT, at the very least, the vibranium claws scratches on dehydrated Namor and the shield look about the same





OT
I agree with this

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I thought you wanted to downgrade namor because he doesn't actually scale to anyone? My bad tho, I guess it needs its own CRT

His durability doesn't scale to his AP, so he is effectively a stonewall

Well yea, it's red, namor has blood understand his skin. Her claws broke his skin, but it didn't seem to go deeper than that

Deeper than the scratches on Cap's shield

it definitely scratched the shield itself

at the very least, the vibranium claws scratches on dehydrated Namor and the shield look about the same

I really don't see or agree with it. The shield looks like it sustained barely surface level damage, whereas Namor has the entire length of the claws stabbing into his skin

But eh, this isn't the place to discuss this

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Applied the changes. This can be closed now

 

[Starter_Pack]

This looks fine.

Closing.

 

[RoTt35]

The thread hasn't been closed yet btw, so I'll spam the General CRT⁵

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

The thread hasn't been closed yet btw

Pretty sure it was closed by @Just_a_Random_Butler, but now it was reopened by @Starter_Pack

 

[Starter_Pack]

Pretty sure it was closed by @Just_a_Random_Butler, but now it was reopened by @Starter_Pack

I wouldn't doubt that's what happened, lol.