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What rule?People have to weigh in one the discussion rule Lloyd posted first I think.
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What rule?People have to weigh in one the discussion rule Lloyd posted first I think.
Something like:
- Do not attempt to upgrade Thor, Gorr, Mighty Thor and the Stormbreaker to 3-A based on the argument the axe was able to overpower a full blast from the Infinity Gauntlet. The events of Infinity War suggest the full blast scale to the snap, as the gauntlet was damaged bc of that, indicating more energy was put in with the snap then it was with the full blast. Even if the blast scale to the Power Stone, who is a power source capable of destroying the universe, the energy output of the Stone is variable, and there is no way to quantify how much energy was used during the blast
Well we need more staff opinionsShall the thread be closed then?
"Look at how powerful this axe (Stormbreaker) is. The man who made the Gauntlet and the axe, provided Thor with the weapon that could defeat the Gauntlet."
If you can prove that the director was the one commenting on the video u sent earlier, this would change everything thoWhat that’s not a rule and can’t be a rule as we know the gauntlet scales above the level of that blast is irrelevant and holds no weight on stormbreaker actual strength
The main problem is again that’s irrelevant as I’ve already shown numerous wog says it aboveThe main problem is that we don't know how much energy was used during the blas, so at best we can upgrade Stormbreaker to 5-A, likely far higher
The one commenting on the video is literally The Russo bros my guys it was the director watch a alongIf you can prove that the director was the one commenting on the video u sent earlier, this would change everything tho
Can you prove the director was the one commenting on the video u sent a few minutes ago. If its the director who was commenting on it and not the screenwriter this would change everythingThe main problem is again that’s irrelevant as I’ve already shown numerous wog says it above
Can u send the original interview?The one commenting on the video is literally Russo my guys it was the director watch a along
My guy go to Disney + and select the director watch a long no I can’t send you a full movieCan u send the original interview?
Well if the director himself implies the Stormbreaker would scale to the gauntlet, this would counter everyone else counter arguments and agree with the OPMy guy go to Disney + and select the director watch a long no I can’t send you a full movie
Russo bros did a watch along for both Iw and endgame
I already countered their argumentsWell if the director himself implies the Stormbreaker would scale to the gauntlet, this would counter everyone else counter arguments and agree with the OP
It's already been rejected. The topic, barring a staff thread, is ended CRT wise.Not a single person has anything on the 6+ wog that says it scales stormbreaker has 0 anti feats there is no debunk
Nope y’all can’t reject if you can’t debunkIt's already been rejected. The topic, barring a staff thread, is ended CRT wise.
It was debunked, or at least reasoning for not using the scaling was brought up in both threads and rejected by all the staff members who commented.Nope y’all can’t reject if you can’t debunk
I read the OP and responded with my reasoning. I even replied to Lloyd's direct reply to me. We also provided the discussion ruleI like how not a single person can actually debunk it and just say nah it’s rejected
This is what me and the lloyd guy were talking about at this rate this site or at least for mcu side needs new mods because the mods clearly don’t even act like mods when they don’t want to read discuss or are open to having their minds changed
Yeah and everything you said still doesn’t debunk anythingI read the OP and responded with my reasoning. I even replied to Lloyd's direct reply to me. We also provided the discussion rule
Also, mods aren't assigned to different verses. You can't get "new mods for the MCU side". Mods are meant to cover key aspects of the wiki overall
But it did debunk it. The argument of the OP is scaling to the Power Stone and I addressed how the Power Stone's attack potency is dependant on the target. Ergo, there's no reason to assume a 3-A blast was usedYeah and everything you said still doesn’t debunk anything
What are you talking about? Mods are super active with the MCU, its arguably in our top 5 most active verses on the wikihow ever the mods work we need new ones who are active on mcu side because if a mod hops in threads and says nah I’m not going to read then disagree without reading then that’s wack
It wasn’t debunked now your making stuff upIt was debunked, or at least reasoning for not using the scaling was brought up in both threads and rejected by all the staff members who commented.
Just because you're not satisfied with the responses doesn't mean it wasn't rejected or considered unusable.
Bro what not I’m talking about I’m saying how stormbreaker is that strong that isn’t debunked because op used some flawed method doesn’t debunk stormbreaker itself only the way he argued itBut it did debunk it. The argument of the OP is scaling to the Power Stone and I addressed how the Power Stone's attack potency is dependant on the target. Ergo, there's no reason to assume a 3-A blast was used
That's a debunk. You can disagree if you want, but it is a debunk
I’m saying the ones are active need to be replaced? Not hard to understand if a mod ever says he ain’t reading or doesn’t feel like reading a crt then disagrees they shouldn’t even countWhat are you talking about? Mods are super active with the MCU, its arguably in our top 5 most active verses on the wiki
I'm really confused at where you're going with this. The Power Stone is the sole reasoning in the OP's argument. What I addressed is perfectly on topicBro what I’m talking about I’m saying how stormbreaker is that strong that isn’t debunked because op used some flawed method doesn’t debunk stormbreaker itself only the way he argued it
We never count votes from mods who say "I ain't reading all that". If a mod agrees, we count it. If they disagree, we count it. Simple as thatI’m saying the ones are active need to be replaced? Not hard to understand if a mod ever says he ain’t reading or doesn’t feel like reading a crt then disagrees they shouldn’t even count
I’m saying stormbreaker still scales not because how ever the op tried to get it there but because of other reasons which are already mentioned in the threadI'm really confused at where you're going with this. The Power Stone is the sole reasoning in the OP's argument. What I addressed is perfectly on topic
Yes y’all do that literally happened last thread 98% of the people who disagree never actually address anything and just say disagreeWe never count votes from mods who say "I ain't reading all that". If a mod agrees, we count it. If they disagree, we count it. Simple as that
At this point, I'm genuinely confused on which side you're arguing for. First it sounds like you're agreeing with Lloyd, and then you take shots at his proposalI’m saying stormbreaker still scales not because how ever the op tried to get it there but because of other reasons which are already mentioned in
Wh- Literally no....? I'm not sure you've been on the wiki long enough, you're saying stuff that really isn't seen on a consistent basis anymoreYes y’all do that literally happened last thread 98% of the people who disagree never actually address anything and just say disagree
"How is Stormbreaker able to take the brunt of 6 stones?" (Anthony Russo) "It's the greatest weapon ever made".
The plan was to give Thor a weapon that could defeat the Gauntlet, not a weapon that could defeat the six infinity stonesIt in fact does because numerous statements say it is stronger then the IG Eitri entire plan was to give Thor a weapon that could defeat the gauntlet eitri made a weapon that could beat or compete with his other creation the gauntlet
This supports what I am saying. If Thanos doesn't know the power of what's coming at him, he doesn't need to attack at full power, he just attacks with as much power as he thinks is enough.Another case of people not being able to read their own scans
In a different way this is telling us thanos could’ve used the stone another way rather then raw power like using the space stone to open a portal using the reality stone or time hax etc not raw power
Meaning Stormbreaker > IG ap
"Look at how powerful this axe (Stormbreaker) is. The man who made the Gauntlet and the axe, provided Thor with the weapon that could defeat the Gauntlet."
Ye but the director proof he sent furthermore supports the OP so yall should take into consideration + not enough mod replies to close/reject this threadBut it did debunk it. The argument of the OP is scaling to the Power Stone and I addressed how the Power Stone's attack potency is dependant on the target. Ergo, there's no reason to assume a 3-A blast was used
That's a debunk. You can disagree if you want, but it is a debunk
What are you talking about? Mods are super active with the MCU, its arguably in our top 5 most active verses on the wiki
The Gauntlet still scale to Uni tho pretty sureAgain, a weapon that can beat the Gauntlet. Not a weapon that can defeat 6 infinity stones.
And you have not even responded to my counter-arguments.
Ye but the director proof he sent furthermore supports the OP so yall should take into consideration + not enough mod replies to close/reject this thread
He didn't say it was the most powerful weapon. And even if he did, it can't be used to scale over 6 stones.
The plan was to give Thor a weapon that could defeat the Gauntlet, not a weapon that could defeat the six infinity stones
This supports what I am saying. If Thanos doesn't know the power of what's coming at him, he doesn't need to attack at full power, he just attacks with as much power as he thinks is enough.
Again, a weapon that can beat the Gauntlet. Not a weapon that can defeat 6 infinity stones.
And you have not even responded to my counter-arguments.
It is not. The Gauntlet by itself has no 3-A durability featsThe Gauntlet still scale to Uni tho pretty sure
he did ??? This has to be one of the worst cases I’ve ever see he literally said it’s the greatest weapon ever made if you just click play on the video I sent you could listen and realize thatHe didn't say it was the most powerful weapon. And even if he did, it can't be used to scale over 6 stones.
Yeah and you know what the gauntlet uses the infinity stones like your blowing my mind right now manThe plan was to give Thor a weapon that could defeat the Gauntlet, not a weapon that could defeat the six infinity stones
No it doesn’t and In fact debunks what your saying it’s saying Thanos couldn’t of counters it through raw power rather other ways like hax nobody is arguing stormbreaker no sells every hax the gauntlet hax only ap or raw powerThis supports what I am saying. If Thanos doesn't know the power of what's coming at him, he doesn't need to attack at full power, he just attacks with as much power as he thinks is enough.
Can you stop spouting nonsense first one of the scans I sent explicitly called it the infinity gauntlet 2nd of all the director is literally watching the axe overpowere the IG what do you think he’s talking about bud use common sense hereAgain, a weapon that can beat the Gauntlet. Not a weapon that can defeat 6 infinity stones.
And you have not even responded to my counter-arguments.
Also by scaling Stormbreaker that doesn't also make regular Thanos scaling to full gauntlet? Like, makes no sense..It is not. The Gauntlet by itself has no 3-A durability feats
FRAlso by scaling Stormbreaker that doesn't also make regular Thanos scaling to full gauntlet? Like, makes no sense..
Fr no it doesn’t what logic did you get that from Thanos doesn’t scale to the stormbreaker he literally got his head chopped off and had to actively avoid getting hit in endgame so he wasn’t killedAlso by scaling Stormbreaker that doesn't also make regular Thanos scaling to full gauntlet? Like, makes no sense..
the greatest weapon is not the same as the most powerful weapon. Even if it does, it can only be used to scale onto weapons made within the verse. Unless you're saying that the gauntlet alone is as powerful as the infinity stones, it's useless.he did ??? This has to be one of the worst cases I’ve ever see he literally said it’s the greatest weapon ever made if you just click play on the video I sent you could listen and realize that
This doesn't change anythingYeah and you know what the gauntlet uses the infinity stones like your blowing my mind right now man
He doesn't say he couldn't stop it with raw power, he says he could have stopped it if he used it differently. He may also be talking about finger snapping here.No it doesn’t and In fact debunks what your saying it’s saying Thanos couldn’t of counters it through raw power rather other ways like hax nobody is arguing stormbreaker no sells every hax the gauntlet hax only ap or raw power
Calling it an infinity gauntlet does not put the gauntlet itself on the same level as the infinity stones.Can you stop spouting nonsense first one of the scans I sent explicitly called it the infinity gauntlet 2nd of all the director is literally watching the axe overpowere the IG what do you think he’s talking about bud use common sense here
But considering your lack of ability to read scans or even listen to a short 8 second clip I doubt anything your arguing has any relevance
It is like your logic is blowing my mind he was asked how did it survive all 6 infinity his reply greatest weapon ever made which is consistent with all the other statements of being able to beat the infinity gauntletthe greatest weapon is not the same as the most powerful weapon. Even if it does, it can only be used to scale onto weapons made within the verse. Unless you're saying that the gauntlet alone is as powerful as the infinity stones, it's useless.
More nonsense from the guy who can’t read a scan or listen to an 8 second clipCalling it an infinity gauntlet does not put the gauntlet itself on the same level as the infinity stones.
As I mentioned in my previous messages, the gauntlet was not being used to six stone's full power.
None of the scans you and the OP gave are sufficient for what you are aiming for. And You are insulting everyone who says this.
And you still haven't responded to my previous counter arguments.
He did not say that it was survive because it was stronger than the stones. Also, in that scene, Thanos was not attacking with the full power of the stones.It is like your logic is blowing my mind he was asked how did it survive all 6 infinity his reply greatest weapon ever made which is consistent with all the other statements of being able to beat the infinity gauntlet
And insult againMore nonsense from the guy who can’t read a scan or listen to an 8 second clip
Unless you're saying the gauntlet is as powerful as the stones, weapon statements that can defeat the gauntlet cannot be used to scale to the infinity stones and will be invalid.Nobody is saying the gauntlet is as powerful as the stones themselves bruh like nobody says ultron is as powerful as stones the stones themselves the stones are what powers them the device it’s self is never equal to the stones it doesn’t have to be to draw out it’s power which is shown time and tome again
WoGs don't directly say that it are stronger than infinity stones. Unless you're saying the gauntlet is as powerful as the stones, weapon statements that can defeat the gauntlet cannot be used to scale to the infinity stones and will be invalid. And just because strombreaker doesn't have an anti-feat doesn't mean this OP can't be debunked.Yes the scans I gave are sufficient enough I provided multiple wog saying it has the power to beat the gauntlet it’s a stronger weapon then the gauntlet etc nothing you said or anyone here has been able to debunk and can actually address it because y’all can’t stormbreaker has 0 anti feats meaning until it gets one it can’t be debunked
Also you have no arguments I didn’t counter I’ve already replied to them and explained how you can’t even read your own scans
You haven't debunk anything in this messageAs Qawsedf234 said, thanos snaps his fingers when he uses the gauntlet to erase the universe or for a universal effect. In this scene thanos did nothing like that. And as I said in my previous post, the gauntlet takes damage when used for universal effect but not after attacking thor. Considering these two and the fact that we know that stones have variable AP, we can say that Thanos' attack is not 3-A. And there is nothing to support that this attack is 3-A.
Remember the gauntlet was made to channel the Infinity Stones power, so it scalesIt is not. The Gauntlet by itself has no 3-A durability feats
No, no it doesn't. Thats not how it works, Lloyd. It does not scale. At best, it upscales Vibranium via being made of UruRemember the gauntlet was made to channel the Infinity Stones power, so it scales