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So when is Cap gonna be scaled to Bleeding Edge Iron Man for their fight in Civil War
 
I mean, their statements blatantly contradict what the directors themselves depicted in the film. It's kind of funny, actually.
I mean, does it? We never see Thor fight Thanos legitimately on screen until Endgame. IW and pre-timeskip Thor won with surprise attacks from a weapon that one shot basically everyone, while Endgame Thor fought him straight up. We also know a weaponless Thor was demolished by a weaponless Thanos, which is also what happens in Endgame. The only evidence I really see of BroThor being weaker than BuffThor (baring a new statement) is that he's out of shape, but he's also an alien god so that doesn't hold up super well either.
 
Yeah, the only real thing suggesting EG Thor shouldn't be stronger is logic, and we aren't too big on logic in this website.
 
I can see BroThor being comparable to BuffThor, but I think BroThor getting stronger by chugging beer and playing Fortnite for five years makes negative sense tbh.
 
I mean, does it? We never see Thor fight Thanos legitimately on screen until Endgame. IW and pre-timeskip Thor won with surprise attacks from a weapon that one shot basically everyone, while Endgame Thor fought him straight up. We also know a weaponless Thor was demolished by a weaponless Thanos, which is also what happens in Endgame. The only evidence I really see of BroThor being weaker than BuffThor (baring a new statement) is that he's out of shape, but he's also an alien god so that doesn't hold up super well either.
I was referring to Infinity War Thor with Stormbreaker. Sorry if I wasn't specific.
 
I was referring to Infinity War Thor with Stormbreaker.
Even then, there's no direct or explicit evidence that BuffThor was stronger than BroThor in anything besides mental fortitude. Like its one thing to disagree with WoG when the work itself contradicts the idea, but in this case the only reason people think Thor got weaker physically is because he's fat rather than a direct statement of power.
 
I mean, Iron Man mark 2-5 should be around 9-A, as he survived a tank explosion, and blew it up soon after

We DO need a calc for it though, it hasn't been calced
Blowing up tanks is High 8-C tho

It would be unreasonable to assume that Iron Man's Marks II, III and later would be weaker than Jericho missiles which can basically replicate the same feat and cause massive destruction on their own.
 
Again, hitting the fuel tank will produce an effect similar to destroying the whole thing.
 
Even then, there's no direct or explicit evidence that BuffThor was stronger than BroThor in anything besides mental fortitude. Like its one thing to disagree with WoG when the work itself contradicts the idea, but in this case the only reason people think Thor got weaker physically is because he's fat rather than a direct statement of power.
I'm more so against BroThor being stronger, but I am fine with him not being weaker.
 
I think the idea's supposed to be that after his talk with mom and stuff he gains his mental willpower back and more.
 
Then there's Iron Man destroying tanks head-on in Sokovia without exploiting fuel tank weaknesses (By literally shooting a repulsor blast into one) and War Machine also can do the same thing except he does it with his bare hands by tossing them into the gardens of Senators.
 
I mean, tossing a tank isn't High 8-C either I'm pretty sure. And depending on how he destroys them, neither is shooting them with a repulsor.
 
Then there's Iron Man destroying tanks head-on in Sokovia without exploiting fuel tank weaknesses
If you mean this feat, that wouldn't be a Tier 8 showing. He didn't even blow it up.
War Machine also can do the same thing except he does it with his bare hands by tossing them into the gardens of Senators.
I guess that's AP in terms of kinetic energy, but we also don't know how fast he was moving, so that might also not be Tier 8
 
I'm refering to AP tho.
It should definitely scale to AP considering how he can rip tanks in half with his bare hands by swinging them around and then smashing them into the ground.

Also the M1 Abrams tank weighs well over 54 metric tonnes which is actually Class 100
 
What would ripping up a tank in 3 pieces count for???
Surviving the missile was calculated to be 9-A, but the calc was over 3 years old, and they assumed it was a tank shell, but it seemed to be an anti-aircraft missile that hit Iron Man
 
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What would ripping up a tank in 3 pieces count for???
Surviving the missile was calculated to be 9-A, but the calc was over 3 years old, and they assumed it was a tank shell, but it seemed to be an anti-aircraft missile that hit Iron Man
Why does that calc assume that the missile caused the crater, when in reality it was just Iron Man falling from the sky?

Also the crater was pressed into the ground so compressive strength AKA pulv. energy should be used IMHO, though there is the argument that there is still debris remaining but that could also be contributed to the nearby buildings being blown up and throwing debris around so IDK (But the final combined results for both v. frag and pulv would be Building level anyway).

The depth should also be a bit deeper, I'd say it'd reach upto Iron Man's knee. Knee length on average is 30.5% of body height.

And from the looks of it, the road seems to have both stone and concrete in it, maybe assume 50% of the volume with both materials included, since it does take place in the Middle East and it's a dry, arid and rocky land.

All in all, don't assume the missile to have caused the crater, just assume that it knocked Iron Man out for a bit which caused him to not be able to fly back up and crater himself in the ground.
 
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He has a few other feats, such as ramming Iron Monger through a building, and tanking the explotion of a RPG + a Bus.

In the comics he lifted a bit a jet that issues with it's propulsion and I think is stated that his laser can generate some terawatts.
 
What are we discussing right now? The scaling isn't as big as an issue as you all think imo, we could just make Thanos High 7-A, as well, noting that the 6-C feat permanently injured him.
 
I'd say Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch are equal to Thanos without a doubt, Captain America is about so equal, Hulk, Thor and Iron Man are a tad bit weaker, if you ask me.
 
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