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MCU: Age Of CRT
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Powerscaling on VSBW? The horror!
Seriously though it's not exactly DBZ scaling it's a pretty simple chain if you ask me, we should "overcomplicate" it because it would give Hulk a different tier, though the AP would barely chance, and because VSBW pages should strive for accuracy above all else
Seriously though it's not exactly DBZ scaling it's a pretty simple chain if you ask me, we should "overcomplicate" it because it would give Hulk a different tier, though the AP would barely chance, and because VSBW pages should strive for accuracy above all else
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@Armorchompy
If we go with your scaling, then I don't believe Thanos should upscale to 6-C anymore. If the difference between himself and Hulk/Thor isn't that large, then he should just be "At least High 7-A+".
Another wrench in the upscaling argument is that Endgame Thor is apparently stronger than IW Thor, so yeah.......
If we go with your scaling, then I don't believe Thanos should upscale to 6-C anymore. If the difference between himself and Hulk/Thor isn't that large, then he should just be "At least High 7-A+".
Another wrench in the upscaling argument is that Endgame Thor is apparently stronger than IW Thor, so yeah.......
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Then a tier change for Thanos, same story. By the way, do you still disagree with it?
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Show me what you think the scaling chain at large would be in your opinion, then I'll give you my final thoughts.
Just a simple "A>B>C" chain to show me what you have in mind for all the relevant characters.
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I'm not too knowledgeable on the entire scaling chain for the MCU high/top tiers, could you show me what we currently have?
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Wouldn’t it just be like Hulk = IW Thor < Endgame Thor =< Thanos?
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Not really, what I have is
IW/Ragnarok Thor < IW Thor (With Stormbreaker) =< Endgame Thor < Thanos >= IW/Ragnarok Hulk
With all of this being fairly close
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So the final scaling would probably look something like:
Iron Man (did pretty damn well against Thanos tbh) <= IW/Ragnarok Thor < IW Thor w/SB <= Endgame Thor <= Hulk <= Thanos >= Captain Mjolnjr < Captain Marvel = Scarlet Witch
something like that....?
Iron Man (did pretty damn well against Thanos tbh) <= IW/Ragnarok Thor < IW Thor w/SB <= Endgame Thor <= Hulk <= Thanos >= Captain Mjolnjr < Captain Marvel = Scarlet Witch
something like that....?
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I personally agree with this, but idk.......Wouldn't dismissing this statement by WoG dismiss other statements as well? Or at least put them into question?
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I mean, their statements blatantly contradict what the directors themselves depicted in the film. It's kind of funny, actually.
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Then I guess mine would be
IW Iron Man <= IW/Ragnarok Thor < IW Thor w/SB <= Endgame Thor <= Hulk =<= Thanos > Captain Mjolnjr < Captain Marvel ?? Scarlet Witch
I'm not sure on SW being that strong in terms of AP, I mean she definitely stomped Thanos but that was just because he had no way of resisting her TK, nothing about her necessarily hitting harder.
Also I put Cap a little bit lower since I don't remember him doing as well as Thor did in the final battle, but it's been a lot since I watched Endgame so I am not gonna argue on that, and just trust what yall conclude. Also it doesn't make it clear but I'd say Marvel is slightly stronger than Thanos, but idrk about that either.
(Hulk is slightly lower than Thanos simply because Thanos punches with proper Karateka or Boxer form while the Hulk just wildly swings his arms around, I still think they're equal in strength)
IW Iron Man <= IW/Ragnarok Thor < IW Thor w/SB <= Endgame Thor <= Hulk =<= Thanos > Captain Mjolnjr < Captain Marvel ?? Scarlet Witch
I'm not sure on SW being that strong in terms of AP, I mean she definitely stomped Thanos but that was just because he had no way of resisting her TK, nothing about her necessarily hitting harder.
Also I put Cap a little bit lower since I don't remember him doing as well as Thor did in the final battle, but it's been a lot since I watched Endgame so I am not gonna argue on that, and just trust what yall conclude. Also it doesn't make it clear but I'd say Marvel is slightly stronger than Thanos, but idrk about that either.
(Hulk is slightly lower than Thanos simply because Thanos punches with proper Karateka or Boxer form while the Hulk just wildly swings his arms around, I still think they're equal in strength)
I can agree but we don't actually have any scaling reasons to doubt that, do we? Iron Man managed to hold out against a Thanos who wasn't fighting too seriously (They confirm that in the same AMA, he wasn't fighting to kill in IW), and Thanos has a weapon and a damn good one in Endgame.
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I would personally say Wanda > Carol, but otherwise, I agree.
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I put them as equals because both will probably be scaled exactly the same. They'll both be scaled above Thanos due to overpowering him, but otherwise I'm not sure if there's a way to actually determine which of them is stronger.
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I mean, they did say Carol's the strongest Avenger somewhere, right? This is all pretty nebulous though so I don't really think we can really draw conclusions
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@Armorchompy
I can agree with your scaling as well since it's extremely close anyway lol.
I can agree with your scaling as well since it's extremely close anyway lol.
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Yeah it barely changed lol all i did was make my favorite character drop a tier down what have i done
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Iirc, Thanos was able to somewhat resist Carol while he couldn’t against Wanda (but then again there wasn’t really a way for him to resist lol), but yeah, they’ll probably be tiered the same anyways.
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Yeah honestly Wanda might even be under Thanos in power for all we know, they don't seem to treat TK as something that can be overpowered.
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Though I personally don't see Hulk being above Thor's peak with Stormbreaker, but whatever I can live with it I guess.
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Don't care about the Wanda VS Carol discussion as much as I care about IW Thor being scaled above Endgame Thor.
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Though I guess an easy way to fix this would be to give Stormbreaker a different tier, which I believe is what we're doing already.
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That'd make sense.
Anyway, should Thanos' regen be updated to Mid-Low or High-Low for regenerating the wound he got from Stormbreaker? Minor thing I know
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He could have healed with the Time Stone or something of that nature instead of naturally regenerating.
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Didn't he reverse the damage with the Time Stone? Or at least I heard that's what he did somewhere before
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That makes sense, it happens offscreen so we have no way of knowing. But, his arm did stay damaged from the Gauntlet's recoil, right?
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That could have come from him destroying the stones, since he said doing so almost killed him.
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Well, my theory is that he healed both his chest and arm, but the damage we see in Endgame is from the second snap.
Though another argument could be that damage caused by the stones can't be reversed or something.
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You can kinda see his arm's burned up and all. He didn't heal it.
That does make sense thematically, but it's a bit of a stretch for VSBW purposes. Though I suppose we'd have to give the IG Regen Negation anyway if we went with the regen.
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They have, I think. What would be the next topic?
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This
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Ah. Yeah, I can agree.
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Yeah, High 7-A/6-C seems to have been accepted by staff and non staff.
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Mark III can easily destroy tanks right? Maybe we should go off of that instead?
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Yeah but destroying a tank, even with an explosion, is apparently relatively unimpressive because it can be done by blowing up their fuel tank.
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Hulk is doomed with Chronic Post-Snap Arm for the rest of the MCU lol
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Actually come to think of it, he doesn't regenerate the burnt arm either, the Gauntlet really should get Regen Negation huh
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