Masadaverse Verse Page Split

[Ionliosite]

This was long overdue, but it needs to be done. As stated on the verse page:

The two other games belong to the Senshinkan series, a separate franchise that has nothing to do with Shinza storywise

... So why do they share the same verse page? Shinza and Senshinkan are totally unrelated settings, with different power systems and totally different cosmology, the only thing in common being having Masada as the man behind everything. However, sharing an author isn't enough to get to be on the same verse page, otherwise Mob Psycho 100 and One-Punch Ma would need to be fused together. So what I ask is obvious: make 2 verse pages, one for Shinza Banshou and one for Senshinkan.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I will plan to do it, I just need a general picture for shenshikan (or do we need one)???

I agree with the split

 

[PsychoWarper]

This has been discussed for awhile and tbh I agree with the split, outside the Author, some WoG statements comparing characters by said author and some like easter eggs popping up they arnt related and should not share a Verse Page.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I agree with the split.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Let's be real, no Masadanerd did this because no one wanted to make the page themselves

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I agree with the split. Now we just gotta do the opposite with the nasuverse and merge all the Arbitrarily split pages for every minute part of the verse

 

[Wokistan]

Makes sense to me

 

[QuasiYuri]

I agree Some others verse page are in the same situation btw (ex: MSPA)

 

[Ravenous4th]

ÔÇÿK

 

[SleepyTBubble]

Calling it now.

Masada will spit y'all later by making Senshinkan crossover with Shinza through Pantheon and make it canon :kobeha

 

[Zaratthustra]

I agree with the split but who know like Sleepy said Masada may create a crossover. Another way will be that the curent Page to remain and have links the splits.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

seems fine.

Unless alrfy has Precognition

 

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[Ionliosite]

The logical course of action would be just renaming the Masadaverse page to Shinza Banshou because, let's be real, when people say "Masadaverse" they actually mean Shinza. So all Senshinkan info is just moved to a new verse page and the links are fixed accordingly.

 

[SleepyTBubble]

>when people say "Masadaverse" they actually mean Shinza

Those people are dumb then ensive:

 

[Zoey_of_Scadrial]

When I say Masadaverse I mean both of them, and I use Shinzaverse for all of the Shinza Banshou works. I just use Senshinkan for Senshinkan as it is far less developed and has far less works than the Shinzaverse.

I agree with the split. They do only share an author, and differ to a great enough extent that they can't even be considered in the same verse. Unless, as Sleepy has stated, Pantheon makes a crossover. For as far as I am aware there is nothing absolutely denying them taking place in the same Verse. But we don't have prrof that they do either.

Also different Nasuverse works differ to a great enough extent to warrent other pages. Like how Extra all takes place in the Moon Cell and thus operates in a very different way. Or that Grand Order is largely diverged from all other works in terms of timeline and machanics. But this page isn't for that anyway, this is about the Masadaverse.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I don't really see how different works within the Nasuverse taking place within different aspects and settings within that verse makes them warrant their own verse pages, when there are other verses that have far more divergence yet still remain on the same page. Besides, especially in the case of Fate, the works are always more similar to eachother than they are divergent, and even in the case of the moon cell, it's not like Spiritron Dimensions that the moon cell uses weren't a thing before Extra

 

[Bobsican]

Yeah, I totally agree with Iapitus, while we are on that, the Donkey Kong Series page should be merged with the Mario Bros verse page as they are the same verse and all and there's really no good reason for them to be separate.

Also merge all of the Final Fantasy verse pages to the main one, seriously, the only reason they have stayed this long is because no one wants to clean up such a mess, or supporters being limited to a single segment of a series, but the same goes for essencially all verses with more than one entry, so that's not a good reason either.

 

[Zoey_of_Scadrial]

My view is that

Stay Night, Zero, Hollow Ataraxia, Apocrypha, El-Melloi, and Strange Fake go together.

But Extra should be considered seperate due to the very different plot, world mechanics, and power levels.

Grand Order should be seperate due to it having massive changes to Cannon. Not just in the timeline. But also in machanics. Such as the allowing of Time and Dimensional Travel without the use of the Second or Fifth Magics, Heroic Spirits simply being able to have seperate Spirit Origins and Noble Phantasms just becuase they put on a swimsuit, along with just putting so many characters at "2-A" (Despite that just being wrong, I am still working on that CRT), Etc, etc.

Kara no Kyoukai and Mahou Tsukai no Youru, despite taking place in the same world, are disconnected enough that they should be considered their own things.

Basically we should seperate it into:

Mainline- Those dealing with the Holy Grail War or the like, typically being a consistent 7-A to 6-C.

Extra- Those that take place in the MoonCell,

Grand Order- Speaks for itself.

Anyway, I went on a tangent. Sorry for derailing this thread.

 

[Ionliosite]

So we're doing this or not?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Ant should be contacted about this and along with a few more Mods more than likely.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Agreed.

 

[Antvasima]

This is probably fine. It doesn't seem controversial.

 

[Zoey_of_Scadrial]

I am for the split. It makes sense, and maybe rename the Masadaverse Explanation Page to Shinza Banshou explanation page, as it covers nothing about Senshinkan.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Split works for me

 

[Antvasima]

So has this been sufficiently accepted then?

 

[Bobsican]

Even the knowledgeable staff members have agreed on respectively, so this can be applied.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[PsychoWarper]

So how will we do this? Since we seem to have enough support from those knowledgable on the verse and mods to get this up and going.

 

[Ionliosite]

We'll do this:

The logical course of action would be just renaming the Masadaverse page to Shinza Banshou because, let's be real, when people say "Masadaverse" they actually mean Shinza. So all Senshinkan info is just moved to a new verse page and the links are fixed accordingly.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Alrighty then so whos gonna be responsible for doing all that (Im guessing multiple people will be).

 

[Zoey_of_Scadrial]

To Ionliosite, we would also have to create a seperate Senshinkan page to connected Senshinkan characters to. As the Senshinkan links connected to Masadaverse. Though I do agree with the name change.

 

[Ionliosite]

... That's what I said tho.

 

[Antvasima]

Help with applying this change would be very appreciated.

 

[Bobsican]

We likely could start with Masadaverse being renamed to Shinza Bansho

 

[Ionliosite]

Shinza Bansho'''u''' with an U at the end.

 

[Bobsican]

Oh, sorry, thanks for pointing out.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Alrighty then so whos gonna be responsible for doing all that (Im guessing multiple people will be).

I will

 

[PsychoWarper]

I thought you where avoiding Masada threads?

I could handle somethings if needed to

 

[Antvasima]

The links to the verse page need to be updated.