Fully agree with this.
Disagree. The WHR having so sense of coordinates is a factor in a tier 1 space, and it’s dimensionally transcendental due to being far above the likes the multiverse, the mystery, and eternity himself. The White Hot Room is not a circular space, and infact has plenty of other settings inside it.
Having no sense of direction, as given to use by the scan. No matter which direction they go, they end up in the same place. No coordinates means no directions.
Yes, but it’s also said to be dimensionally transcendent. Not to mention it’s the highest dimension, second only to the house of ideas.
That doesn’t mean anything, when we’re referring to a higher dimensional space. In what other way would they use the word dimension in this case, if not to mention literal dimensions?
This actually seems to be a great and thorough analysis.Overspace where abstracts like Living Tribunal resides in a 16 Dimensional Space which qualify for 1-B.
Regarding High 1-B scans:
1. Beyonder said Universe is many layered and has endless dimensions.
But "dimensions" is a synonym for "alt realities/universes"
2. Reed Richard moving through infinite dimensions.
Infinities dimensions weren't even explicitly mentioned as spatial ones here. more likely its suggesting crossroads is a junction infinite alt dimensions/realities. Reed Richard jumping from 4D space to Infinite D space suddenly is also a big contradiction. not even in guidebooks described negative zone as infinite dimensional or such thing.
3. This scan from Ghost Rider 2099 series was used to prove High 1-B, but the problem is, credibility of source. It mentioned randomly without any further context. the statement itself is kinda vague and not objective.
"X dimensional space" term could refer to alt universes and here is the best example.
4. "Infinite Levels"
But it is refering to bubble realities created by Hypercomputers which are real fantasies.
In fact., they aren't real.
also it says "us who can observe multiverse on infinite levels" mean humans can observe inf spatial dimensions? doesn't make sense. thus, could refer to infinite alt existences.
5. Actually I don't know how "infinity beyond infinity" prove High 1-B? (seen used to prove High 1-B ranking)
6. Only scan that actually mention about infinite dimensions is this, but there is no evidence whether they have qualitative superiority. you can't use other comic series as evidence to prove since this version is limited to "Secret Wars 2", also other abstarct beings are below than PR Beyonder and doesn't scale to him. However, this is invalid now due to being a retcon.
7. In Georg Cantor's transfinite series, Marvel Multiverse was stated to be 3D with other Higher Dimensional Universes upto 6.2 likely 1-C,Complex Multiversal level.
Summary:
Cosmology ranges from 1-C to 1-B, but there is no consistent evidence for qualitative superiority of those dimensions. another main problem is the relevancy of scans that imply the qualitative superiority, I mean "dimensions" were mentioned in a random comic and "Q superiority" evidence is from another comic, written by another author. If someone can provide some consistent evidence for it, then 1-C to 1-B scaling is fine.
This also seems to make sense.
AgreeOverspace where abstracts like Living Tribunal resides in a 16 Dimensional Space which qualify for 1-B.
Regarding High 1-B scans:
1. Beyonder said Universe is many layered and has endless dimensions.
But "dimensions" is a synonym for "alt realities/universes"
2. Reed Richard moving through infinite dimensions.
Infinities dimensions weren't even explicitly mentioned as spatial ones here. more likely its suggesting crossroads is a junction infinite alt dimensions/realities. Reed Richard jumping from 4D space to Infinite D space suddenly is also a big contradiction. not even in guidebooks described negative zone as infinite dimensional or such thing.
3. This scan from Ghost Rider 2099 series was used to prove High 1-B, but the problem is, credibility of source. It mentioned randomly without any further context. the statement itself is kinda vague and not objective.
"X dimensional space" term could refer to alt universes and here is the best example.
4. "Infinite Levels"
But it is refering to bubble realities created by Hypercomputers which are real fantasies.
In fact., they aren't real.
also it says "us who can observe multiverse on infinite levels" mean humans can observe inf spatial dimensions? doesn't make sense. thus, could refer to infinite alt existences.
5. Actually I don't know how "infinity beyond infinity" prove High 1-B? (seen used to prove High 1-B ranking)
6. Only scan that actually mention about infinite dimensions is this, but there is no evidence whether they have qualitative superiority. you can't use other comic series as evidence to prove since this version is limited to "Secret Wars 2", also other abstarct beings are below than PR Beyonder and doesn't scale to him. However, this is invalid now due to being a retcon.
7. In Georg Cantor's transfinite series, Marvel Multiverse was stated to be 3D with other Higher Dimensional Universes upto 6.2 likely 1-C,Complex Multiversal level.
Summary:
Cosmology ranges from 1-C to 1-B, but there is no consistent evidence for qualitative superiority of those dimensions. another main problem is the relevancy of scans that imply the qualitative superiority, I mean "dimensions" were mentioned in a random comic and "Q superiority" evidence is from another comic, written by another author. If someone can provide some consistent evidence for it, then 1-C to 1-B scaling is fine.
Reliable, i was there."X dimensional space" term could refer to alt universes and here is the best example.
Quite good, indeed that Planetary (wildstorm universe) scan from DC Comics seems pretty much a great through analysis.
Expertly handled. I agree.Overspace where abstracts like Living Tribunal resides in a 16 Dimensional Space which qualify for 1-B.
Regarding High 1-B scans:
1. Beyonder said Universe is many layered and has endless dimensions.
But "dimensions" is a synonym for "alt realities/universes"
2. Reed Richard moving through infinite dimensions.
Infinities dimensions weren't even explicitly mentioned as spatial ones here. more likely its suggesting crossroads is a junction infinite alt dimensions/realities. Reed Richard jumping from 4D space to Infinite D space suddenly is also a big contradiction. not even in guidebooks described negative zone as infinite dimensional or such thing.
3. This scan from Ghost Rider 2099 series was used to prove High 1-B, but the problem is, credibility of source. It mentioned randomly without any further context. the statement itself is kinda vague and not objective.
"X dimensional space" term could refer to alt universes and here is the best example.
4. "Infinite Levels"
But it is refering to bubble realities created by Hypercomputers which are real fantasies.
In fact., they aren't real.
also it says "us who can observe multiverse on infinite levels" mean humans can observe inf spatial dimensions? doesn't make sense. thus, could refer to infinite alt existences.
5. Actually I don't know how "infinity beyond infinity" prove High 1-B? (seen used to prove High 1-B ranking)
6. Only scan that actually mention about infinite dimensions is this, but there is no evidence whether they have qualitative superiority. you can't use other comic series as evidence to prove since this version is limited to "Secret Wars 2", also other abstarct beings are below than PR Beyonder and doesn't scale to him. However, this is invalid now due to being a retcon.
7. In Georg Cantor's transfinite series, Marvel Multiverse was stated to be 3D with other Higher Dimensional Universes upto 6.2 likely 1-C,Complex Multiversal level.
Summary:
Cosmology ranges from 1-C to 1-B, but there is no consistent evidence for qualitative superiority of those dimensions. another main problem is the relevancy of scans that imply the qualitative superiority, I mean "dimensions" were mentioned in a random comic and "Q superiority" evidence is from another comic, written by another author. If someone can provide some consistent evidence for it, then 1-C to 1-B scaling is fine.
We need to take this into account as well though.
How is there no consistent evidence of qualitative superiority, when the scan you just linked says:7. In Georg Cantor's transfinite series, Marvel Multiverse was stated to be 3D with other Higher Dimensional Universes upto 6.2 likely 1-C,Complex Multiversal level.
Summary:
Cosmology ranges from 1-C to 1-B, but there is no consistent evidence for qualitative superiority of those dimensions.
"These universes are often popularly called "dimensions".(below scan).Even in Guidebooks Dimensions term mostly refer to alt realities. You need explicit evidence to prove it's refering to spatial dimension in those cases.
You have to realize Dr.Strange's explanation here about transfinite numbers is blatanly wrong. He is literary talking about the Main Multiverse and right next panel says Main Multiverse is 3D.
Overall I agree but I must object to one thing. Although Dr. Strange's explanation for transfinite numbers is not mathematically accurate, the intent is clear. I don't think that should be overlooked simply because he did not accurately describe bijection. The concept of "greater infinities" is difficult even for mathematicians to understand.
Type III multiverse where your alternate self lives in a higher dimensional plane from any dimensional number. Calling it alt realities ou because they're universe in it, doesn't invalidate de evidence for the dimensions being transfinite.
So then your argument is that there isn’t an infinite amount of them?
Not that we are using the model as the proof, but rather to counter the silly argument that higher dimensional parallel universes cannot exist. Since we literally see stacked universes one being infinitely higher than the previous, and seeing another as infinitely smaller, this is literally qualitatively superior.
They explicitly describe it as being greater than infinity
So you're saying that the fact that they used odd numbers and even numbers as adding up to a greater infinity invalidates it being an uncountable infinity? If that is your argument I have to say I disagree.
That and the fact they said one infinity is just two times bigger than the lower one.
Sorry, what?
I agree
They still used the term transfinite, regardless if the explaination is wrong, there are still “words” that can't be over looked. We can't expect writers to be all knowledagle and sometimes intentions thus do matters.
Yes, they absolutely can. This is fiction, not science.
