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hang on, am I allowed to vote on this?
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Ultra Series Cosmology Upgrade: Damn That’s Huge!
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Harry_Ackerman_6969
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If so then I vote for agree on 2-A while staying neutral, leaning on agreeing with the 1-A
WanderingGecko
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Did Shirakura work on Battle in Hyperspace too? This is new information for me.
WanderingGecko
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I have revised the conclusion and added a “likely Low 1-C” rating. This is due to the fact that a singular universe contains a 4th spatial dimension.
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Yes, setting from Battle in Hyperspace
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More information I have now here
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The image is not working.
And I don’t see Shirakura’s name anywhere in the Battle of Hyperspace crew, I don’t think that scan is usable tbh.
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Does the image work ?
producer himself admitted that :
Shirakura “Ultraman Tiga/Ultraman Dyna and Ultraman Gaia: The Great Battle of Super Space-Time” Without that, I couldn’t do it.
Of course Feat was used for Kamen Rider and Super Sentai that went up to 1-A. And it has been scanned.
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Harry_Ackerman_6969
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nope not working
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Yep
Harry_Ackerman_6969
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I think it's best to just tag in the staff since this is a pretty big addition to the Ultra series page and because the Ultra series is relatively a niche verse to the wide majority of the staff who also have to look over verses both mainstream and niche
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Normal users cannot tag users sadly. You have to directly contact a staff. But we already tried that with like a dozen staff and none of them replied.
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It's so over, this is gonna be a year long thread
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Oh, that's too bad.
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WanderingGecko
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Almost 2 weeks later and still no evaluation, lol, what a verse.
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We are so cooked
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Someone please visit this 
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I bet you if this scaled to any main character people would gobble this in an instant 
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You just gave an amazing idea.I bet you if this scaled to any main character people would gobble this in an instant
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Agree with 2-A, neutral, leaning towards disagreeing with Low 1-C (I don't really see a good reason for Low 1-C)
Disagree with Low 1-A (Mentioning a type 4 multiverse without any further explanation or supporting argument and assigning it a rating would be a name fallacy, so I'd say no)
Neutral with 1-A (This seems too vague with me so I'll follow up)
Disagree with Low 1-A (Mentioning a type 4 multiverse without any further explanation or supporting argument and assigning it a rating would be a name fallacy, so I'd say no)
Neutral with 1-A (This seems too vague with me so I'll follow up)
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Oh no
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A single universe has 4 spatial dimensions and adding time as a default temporal dimension makes it Low 1-C.
There's a reason why I put the conclusion as "likely" lol.
A world that transcends the multiverse and treats it as fiction is not vague, please read properly.
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I do not feel convinced by what has been presented.
This happened with Instant Death as the verse also showed a Type 4 Multiverse in the Kanji translations but apparently the verse didn't get Low 1-A or even "likely" because of that.
I will consider further.
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But we don't assume that they get Low 1-C simply because of this, unless mentioned by the verse themselves: Time isn't included, therefore it is still 2-A.
Likely is too much when you know you couldn't even get a possibly rating out of it, same thing happened with Honkai and "absolute infinity" statement with the fact that it's infinite in the sense of transfinite only gets you a possibly rating.
It's vague in the sense that there might be a possibility that it's just a gag episode, anything that's basically like this is deemed as something that shouldn't be used as a basis for powerscaling except if you could prove the otherwise.
Anyways, you shouldn't really try to force it to other people since that's what I can conclude between you and Wikisource. That's all. If they don't feel convinced then leave it as there is and put them as disagree except if there is a staff that agrees with them.
And I should say that I'm neutral as I don't know anything about the verse, you could clarify the points that I've made but I won't respond nor if I would change my vote. Like I said, I don't know anything about the verse.
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Who are "we", it's only u.
I kinda don't care ur whataboutism.
It's not a gag episode and nothing's inconsistent with it.
I'm not forcing anything on him as I clearly don't care what he says either way and don't say shit that isn't true, it's weird lol.
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wait did I say I agree?
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Time is separate from the 4th dimension I believe. In series they’ve mentioned time and time again that the 4th dimension is a whole separate dimension above the 3rd dimension but it’s not time as they’ve described space-time as the very barrier that separates a universe from the other universes. Like even in series the only time the characters have been trapped inside the 4th dimension is when they are inside the universe. Outside the universe the space that surrounds the multiverse is called Hyperspace.
WanderingGecko made a mistake in his reply. In his opening post he also said to treat the Low 1-A as a possibly rating not likely. Also they didn’t just say the multiverse has a Type 4 multiverse and that was it. The description for the multiverse actually said
「Level 4」— Universes corresponding to all possible mathematical structures.
I made a Q&A post asking what tier this would be and people said Low 1-A which is why this cosmology update post was made in the first place.
It’s definitely not a gag episode at all. There were two instances where the Real World was brought up and the characters were very serious throughout the episode and trying to destroy the Real World. The episodes weren’t treated like jokes where the characters suddenly appeared in the Real World and does shenanigans. They were full on episodes where if the monsters weren’t stopped the Real World would be destroyed. There was even a special episode following one of them where the antagonist goes on about the concept of a story and stuff.
Wikisource didn’t really disagree. He just wanted more info about the concepts and stuff. I feel like neither of you two actually looked at the blog where there was actually a description of what a Level 4 multiverse is. Cause that statement is the reason why Low 1-A was brought up as a possibly. As during the Q&A thread I made other users have brought up that the mathematical structure description for Level 4 Multiverse is similar to why The Downstreamers are currently Low 1-A.
But yeah we’re just waiting for staff to come at this point but it’s been nearly two months and none of the dozen or so staffs we contacted have come yet.
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I see, it should be fine then.
Honestly, the rating for possibly Type 4 Multiverse existing isn't that good on its nature alone — However, I have seen that it apparently introduces stuff like Type 3 Multiverse and the previous ones. So yeah, I would agree with rating it as a possibly rating given there's that.
That's blatant enough.
It's not that, I just don't think that is sufficient enough — But since there's explanations about the previous Multiverse Type, then it should be fine in my opinion and that time I disagreed strictly with a "likely" rating. Though, possibly is fine like I said earlier and for The Downstreamers — I believe their nature is explained thoroughly, no? Wikisource being neutral in this case (instead of disagreeing) would just be from the fact that another verse had Type IV Multiverse just from the world being called "Ultimate Ensemble World" alone.
That's tough, good luck honestly. I'm surprised it took this long when it doesn't take that long for the other series (Kamen Rider, lol).
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Thanks but yeah it’s probably because the Ultra Series doesn’t have any supporter that are staffs. While Kamen Rider has a staff or two that could contact other staff to take a look or approve of it themselves.
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