Marvel cosmology crt? First part high 1-a?

[Westcoast5005]

Aleph 1 is Low 1A on the tiering system. Aleph 1 is, definitionally, larger than transfinite numbers, hence why transfinites can't reach Aleph 1 lmao, it's still only High 1B

Seems like you don't know meaning of George cantor Cardinals. Aleph 1 is also a transfinite cardinals lol.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Neutral, i will wait ultima input first

 

[Tarang123]

Seems like you don't know meaning George cantor Cardinals. Aleph 1 is also a transfinite cardinals lol.

No, it isn't lmao. Aleph 1 is an uncountable infinity. Ordinals are defined as transfinites, sort of. Alephs from 1 onwards aren't transfinites, but uncountable infinities lol.

 

[Westcoast5005]

No, it isn't lmao. Aleph 1 is an uncountable infinity. Ordinals are defined as transfinites, sort of. Alephs from 1 onwards aren't transfinites, but uncountable infinities lol.

See am done debating with you because you don't understand what you are saying lol.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Uncountable infinites are part of transfinite cardinals. See why I said you don't understand what you saying.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Nothing has a source, so any proposed revision cannot happen until every scan is given a source issue.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Ok then let me find the source.

 

[Westcoast5005]

I have added sources.

 

[Tarang123]

See am done debating with you because you don't understand what you are saying lol.

wdym? Not sure if you can just say that lmao. That's the easiest way to get your thread closed

 

[Tarang123]

I have added sources.

I think you should put the sources with the actual scans, not just putting them on the bottom of the thread

 

[Darksmash]

Marvel transfinites are used super wrong, where they think 2 x infinity is the next level of Infinity, so we would have to ignore that if we are taking the alephs seriously for tiering.

Also merely working on transfinites and being stated to be inaccessible doesn't mean those are Inaccessible cardinals, as each level of Infinity would be inaccessible to the last. Not to mention that's assuming the Inaccessibility is in terms of infinities in the first place. It could just be Inaccessible in the sense of being unreachable to people.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Marvel transfinites are used super wrong, where they think 2 x infinity is the next level of Infinity, so we would have to ignore that if we are taking the alephs seriously for tiering.

Also merely working on transfinites and being stated to be inaccessible doesn't mean those are Inaccessible cardinals, as each level of Infinity would be inaccessible to the last. Not to mention that's assuming the Inaccessibility is in terms of infinities in the first place. It could just be Inaccessible in the sense of being unreachable to people.

Where did it say two times infinity is the next lvl? If you want to disregard the inaccessible statement that's fine as the basis for it isn't strong. But where did it say 2x infinity is the next lvl. And I feel like people are forgetting the statement conceptual stretching. And also forget it says it George cantor transfinite cardinals. Maybe this might not give high 1-a but it should still give outer +.

 

[Darksmash]

But where did it say 2x infinity is the next lvl.

And I feel like people are forgetting the statement conceptual stretching.

Which one? The scan you posted of Omniverse and infinite dimensions seems to be talking about dimensions in the context of parallel dimensions.

 

[Tarang123]

But where did it say 2x infinity is the next lvl.

In the first scan, it says that the higher infinity is twice the size of the lower infinity, if one were to paraphrase, and obviously the scan that Darksmash sent.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Which one? The scan you posted of Omniverse and infinite dimensions seems to be talking about dimensions in the context of parallel dimensions.

Did you read full comic about kubik and kosmos? Also this scan is completely irrelevant to what doctor strange says. It also states it follows George cantor theory. Their explanation are also completely different.

The omniverse and infinite dimensions aren't talking about parallel dimensions because it's stated they stacked upon each other. Also lets me read about kubik and kosmos again.

 

[Tarang123]

The scan you posted of Omniverse and infinite dimensions seems to be talking about dimensions in the context of parallel dimensions.

He said that these universes work as layers of reality or something like that.

 

[Tarang123]

Did you read full comic about kubik and kosmos? Also this scan is completely irrelevant to what doctor strange says. It also states it follows George cantor theory. Their explanation are also completely different.

Doesn't matter, the explanation is blatantly incorrect, as was shown earlier. Both your first scan in the OP and this one scan say the exact same thing, so it's obviously consistent. Them mentioning cantor is irrelevant if the theories they use for higher dimensions doesn't even match this site's standards in the first place.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Doesn't matter, the explanation is blatantly incorrect, as was shown earlier. Both your first scan in the OP and this one scan say the exact same thing, so it's obviously consistent. Them mentioning cantor is irrelevant if the theories they use for higher dimensions doesn't even match this site's standards in the first place.

Dude where did it ever say in the first scan that the upper infinity is twice as large as the lower just point it out.

 

[Tarang123]

Dude where did it ever say in the first scan that the upper infinity is twice as large as the lower just point it out.

I'll try quoting it:

For instance, numbers are infinite, so are odd numbers. Yet, by definition, there are twice as many numbers as there are odd numbers.

That's a direct quote from that first scan in the OP, you can check it out yourself.

 

[Westcoast5005]

I'll try quoting it:



That's a direct quote from that first scan in the OP, you can check it out yourself.

Lol you literally just quoted kubik which has nothing to do with strange explanation.

 

[Darksmash]

Did you read full comic about kubik and kosmos? Also this scan is completely irrelevant to what doctor strange says. It also states it follows George cantor theory. Their explanation are also completely different.

I didn't read the comic, I only know about this scan and it's blatant enough by itself.

The omniverse and infinite dimensions aren't talking about parallel dimensions because it's stated they stacked upon each other. Also lets me read about kubik and kosmos again

Why does being stacked somehow disprove them being parallel dimensions? It literally says they are stacked beside each other. The pages of a book are also stacked.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Also my response about kubik and kosmos scan. Kubik was explaining using odd and even numbers how an infinite can be greater than other infinite not literally explaining how alephs works in marvel.

 

[Tarang123]

Lol you literally just quoted kubik which has nothing to do with strange explanation.

I didn't, tho. I literally just said that I quoted what was said in the very first scan with Dr. Strange. Not sure how you missed that

 

[Tarang123]

Also my response about kubik and kosmos scan. Kubik was explaining using odd and even numbers how an infinite can be greater than other infinite not literally explaining how alephs works in marvel.

Bruh moment. Do you not know what an aleph is? It's literally a type of infinity lmfao. If the verse uses higher infinities fundamentally in an incorrect manner, then alephs, another type of infinity, would naturally also be used incorrectly. Can you show scans that prove that the alephs are legit?

 

[Darksmash]

Also my response about kubik and kosmos scan. Kubik was explaining using odd and even numbers how an infinite can be greater than other infinite not literally explaining how alephs works in marvel.

The problem is, he called it the "next level of Infinity" which is blatantly wrong. Also the strange scan also makes the same mistake, so the Kubik scan isn't irrelevant

 

[Westcoast5005]

I didn't read the comic, I only know about this scan and it's blatant enough by itself.


Why does being stacked somehow disprove them being parallel dimensions? It literally says they are stacked beside each other. The pages of a book are also stacked.

You don't know the context of the scan.

The are infact higher dimensional as a supporting evidence Hercules states they are infinite levels of reality

 

[Urshani]

Marvel transfinites are used super wrong, where they think 2 x infinity is the next level of Infinity, so we would have to ignore that if we are taking the alephs seriously for tiering.

Also merely working on transfinites and being stated to be inaccessible doesn't mean those are Inaccessible cardinals, as each level of Infinity would be inaccessible to the last. Not to mention that's assuming the Inaccessibility is in terms of infinities in the first place. It could just be Inaccessible in the sense of being unreachable to people.

and i think they got retconned into 2-A

 

[Westcoast5005]

The problem is, he called it the "next level of Infinity" which is blatantly wrong. Also the strange scan also makes the same mistake, so the Kubik scan isn't irrelevant

When did strange make the same mistake also kubik never called it the next lvl of reality.

 

[Darksmash]

You don't know the context of the scan.

The are infact higher dimensional as a supporting evidence Hercules states they are infinite levels of realityhttps://imgur.com/a/HhCgQZ3

Why would I need context to know someone is using maths wrong?

I don't know about that. Where does it say those "levels" are the dimensions? Or that there is any transcendence between those levels? Or are they even from the same comic?

 

[Darksmash]

When did strange make the same mistake also kubik never called it the next lvl of reality.

Read your own scan ig. The very first one. He called the next level of Infinity, not reality

 

[Westcoast5005]

Read your own scan ig. The very first one. He called the next level of Infinity, not reality

I read my own scan didn't make the same mistake as kubik unless you can point it out.

 

[Tarang123]

The are infact higher dimensional as a supporting evidence Hercules states they are infinite levels of reality

A greater level of reality doesn't actually mean much tbh. It's definitely not enough to grant an actual higher-d tier

 

[Darksmash]

I read my own scan didn't make the same mistake as kubik unless you can point it out.

He calls the naturals a larger infinity than the odds

 

[Urshani]

also this never mentions inaccessible cardinals which are high 1-A

 

[Westcoast5005]

Why would I need context to know someone is using maths wrong?

I don't know about that. Where does it say those "levels" are the dimensions? Or that there is any transcendence between those levels? Or are they even from the same comic?

You don't know context as he was explaining to kubik that they can be and infinity inside a larger infinity. He used odd and even numbers. To explain so he wasn't explaining alephs in the cosmology.

 

[Tarang123]

I read my own scan didn't make the same mistake as kubik unless you can point it out.

I literally quoted it lol. I genuinely am getting confused rn. Does the Dr. Strange scan not say "infinity is relative"? Cause right under that it says the exact same thing as what Kubik states.

 

[Westcoast5005]

He calls the naturals a larger infinity than the odds

Yes because they are again simply explaining they can be a larger infinity containing infinity. This explanation has nothing to do with the alephs in the cosmology

 

[Tarang123]

You don't know context as he was explaining to kubik that they can be and infinity inside a larger infinity. He used odd and even numbers. To explain so he wasn't explaining alephs in the cosmology.

Yeah, that's still not enough to qualify for a single higher dimension on this wiki. Simply containing something that is infinite isn't enough to grant a higher dimensional exist. Definitely not.

 

[Tarang123]

Yes because they are again simply explaining they can be a larger infinity containing infinity. This explanation has nothing to do with the alephs in the cosmology

Doesn't matter. Alephs are a type of infinity. Unless you have hard proof that the aleph are legit, then it just doesn't work, fundamentally. But, we'll just wait for a mod ig.

 

[Darksmash]

You don't know context as he was explaining to kubik that they can be and infinity inside a larger infinity. He used odd and even numbers. To explain so he wasn't explaining alephs in the cosmology.

"Larger infinity" in context of transfinites is equivalent to higher alephs.

There is also the problem that the strange scan doesn't actually specify how big the multiverse is. It talks about transfinite numbers and then says the multiverse is transfinite but doesn't specify exactly how high into transfinites