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Marvel Comics - Odin AP Revision

ObberGobb said:
Odin gets 2-A, but with a "Varies" mechanism. Can varies tiers have three things listed? Because I think it would be good to have the 2-C for the tier others will scale from from (AKA "Normal Skyfather" tier) but I also think a 3-C tier is reasonable. Could we do something like "Varies, from 3-C at the lowest, 2-C normally, up to 2-A at peak"? Egyptian Gods also get 2-A, but I think that was handled in another thread.

Other Skyfathers and the Hell Lords get 2-C via scaling from various feats about the Nine Realms, and a Hell Lord feat of merging several Universe-sized realms. I think Surtur w/ Twilight Sword and Eternal Flames gets 2-A as well, as he does have a 2-A feat.
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Iirc the issue was, as tracer brought forward, it's hard to determine the proper power levels of Odin which is why we are going for Straight up 2a instead of breaking it off. 3c is fine tho. Varies from 3c to 2a. 2c is gonna be hard to pin down compared to the other stuff.
 
I think that we agreed on giving Odin a varies between 3-C and 2-A tier now that you remind me, yes. However, I would greatly appreciate if somebody can note down all of the relevant arguments and evidence posted in this thread to include in his VSBW profile page.
 
Confluctor said:
Iirc the issue was, as tracer brought forward, it's hard to determine the proper power levels of Odin which is why we are going for Straight up 2a instead of breaking it off. 3c is fine tho. Varies from 3c to 2a. 2c is gonna be hard to pin down compared to the other stuff.
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I think this is fine.
 
Confluctor said:
Iirc the issue was, as tracer brought forward, it's hard to determine the proper power levels of Odin which is why we are going for Straight up 2a instead of breaking it off. 3c is fine tho. Varies from 3c to 2a. 2c is gonna be hard to pin down compared to the other stuff.
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Ok, that makes sense. In that case we should add something to his profile that says he is too unreliable to consistently scale other characters to, like we have with Gladiator.
 
It's not on his page, but it's on the verse page. It says "They can harm characters deemed fully Galaxy level consistently. Note that certain characters may be listed as unreliable to scale from due to sheer inconsistency as well, for example Gladiator."
 
ObberGobb said:
It's not on his page, but it's on the verse page. It says "They can harm characters deemed fully Galaxy level consistently. Note that certain characters may be listed as unreliable to scale from due to sheer inconsistency as well, for example Gladiator."
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Ah. I gotta change that.

ObberGobb said:
Also, does RKT stay "At least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C"?
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Yes.
 
I will unlock the Doctor Doom and Odin pages, and think that a footnote in Odin's page seems fine, but just to make certain, have you noted down all of the relevant arguments and evidence in this thread for Odin's intended tiers already?
 
Antvasima said:
I will unlock the Doctor Doom and Odin pages, and think that a footnote in Odin's page seems fine, but just to make certain, have you noted down all of the relevant arguments and evidence in this thread for Odin's intended tiers already?
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I would appreciate some information about this before the edits are applied.
 
Also, are any members willing to apply the accepted revisions here?
 
Okay. Thank you for helping out. Tell us here when you are done.
 
I am not sure, but if somebody writes a list of the members who have helped out here previously, I can try to summon them back again.
 
If we remove the middle key, should we just do "Varies, from 3-C to 2-A" like with Odin?
 
Possibly, although I would argue that Galactus can go much lower than 3-C at his weakest.
 
I am not sure, but The Thing and Mister Fantastic were able to knock him via physical impact force at his weakest.
 
The Thing does not have an official variable tier, unlike the Hulk, and is officially only as strong as a calm Hulk, as far as I am aware.
 
Well, Galactus was near death at the time.
 
Okay. Never mind then.
 
There is a notion presented in a few comics that "Galactus' physical form within the universe =/= Galactus' strength as an entity across the universal planes", which serves as an explanation of how 3-Cs harm him that a few other comics seem to use as well, I'll have to gather scans but that notion does help mitigate a few outliers since it seems to reference to that.
 
Okay. That seems useful, yes.
 
Anyway, is somebody willing to apply what has been accepted here please?
 
I have unlocked our Galactus page, and already unlocked Odin's VSBW page earlier.

Is somebody willing and able to properly update them please?
 
Or would it be better if I just removed the entire Moderately Fed Galactus key?

I mean his 2-C stuff also relies on Odin.
 
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