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When you bump stuff, can you not delete your messages? It messes up with the notification system. It doesn't send notifications after your message, so it sorta falls under the radar. Had I not been actively looking for this, would have missed it for god knows how long.Bump
Not sure. Wasn't a lot of this stuff agreed on already?Do we need to vote on everything?
Oh, sorryWhen you bump stuff, can you not delete your messages? It messes up with the notification system. It doesn't send notifications after your message, so it sorta falls under the radar. Had I not been actively looking for this, would have messed it for god knows how long.
I can get behind that.I think we should hold votes as a formality though, just to make it clear exactly what is left to be discussed.
That is correct, yes. Whenever you do that, all people who subscribe to the thread stop receiving notifications, and have to check their followed threads list instead.When you bump stuff, can you not delete your messages? It messes up with the notification system. It doesn't send notifications after your message, so it sorta falls under the radar. Had I not been actively looking for this, would have missed it for god knows how long.
If somebody writes a list of the members who have contributed to this thread in a useful manner, I or Confluctor can send a notification to them afterwards.Who will be doing the voting? There are only a handful of us active on this thread. Will that be enough, or do we need more?
Okay. That is probably fine to apply then, but let's wait a bit further for input from the members that Confluctor sent a notification to above first.For my part I think I'm fine with the Confluctor plan, create a scale chain for the low and high levels of the Skyfather and put Odin in Variables where his level is between 3-C ~ 2-C and 2-A at his peak
A lot of it has been explicitly confirmed in handbooks, where he needs his Odinsleep or else he will begin to lose his powers.Makes sense to me, this explains a lot of "contradictions".
Although I would like to see scans where Odin's power changes with Odinsleep are mentioned, such as the instances where Thor controlling himself is mentioned.
Well, those mentions and stays should be added.A lot of it has been explicitly confirmed in handbooks, where he needs his Odinsleep or else he will begin to lose his powers.
But there are tons of stuff happening in comics where the handbook stuff comes from. One notable example I can think of right now is Odin being forced to enter Odinsleep after his battle with Galactus to regain his strength. Fractions run Vol 1 - 2
So have we waited for long enough now, or should I send a notification to several knowledgeable members again?Okay. That is probably fine to apply then, but let's wait a bit further for input from the members that Confluctor sent a notification to above first.
I think Confluctor was going to do it.Is somebody here willing and able to competently and accurately apply exactly what was accepted in this thread to Odin's profile page? Also, do any other pages need to be updated as well?
Is somebody willing to list the members who helped out here previously, so I can send a notification to them, please?Thank you. Is somebody here willing to help Confluctor with properly applying the changes, possibly via an initial wiki sandbox page draft?
Is somebody here willing and able to competently and accurately apply exactly what was accepted in this thread to Odin's profile page? Also, do any other pages need to be updated as well?
I don't think I ever said I will apply them lol...
But I can cover some of them, if someone else can cover the rest.
@ObberGobb @Confluctor @MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer @LordTracer @Firestorm808 @Eficiente @Oliver_de_jesus @Eseseso @CosmicWreck @Kulf_Boba @Armorchompy @Kenshin_Thank you. Is somebody here willing to help Confluctor with properly applying the changes, possibly via an initial wiki sandbox page draft?
Would you please remind me what the accepted revisions are?@ObberGobb @Confluctor @MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer @LordTracer @Firestorm808 @Eficiente @Oliver_de_jesus @Eseseso @CosmicWreck @Kulf_Boba @Armorchompy @Kenshin_
Are any of you able and willing to properly apply the accepted revisions here?
I have unfortunately also forgotten at this point. My apologies.Would you please remind me what the accepted revisions are?
Sorry, I just haven't been following this thread for a while.
Ok.I honestly can't remember much, plus kinda busy with other stuff. So, just check through the thread, Eseseso.
Iirc Odin becomes varies up to like 2-A but barely anyone scales him. Aside from the Odinsleep factor, he is just too damn inconsistent for scaling to take place. Old Thor and Gorr becomes low 1-C I think with Phoenix scaling - or maybe it was just Old Thor. RKT... I think he was meant to get affected too? I forgot. Also most of them loses their 2-A and becomes 2-C via the hell lords multi space-time merging feat
In that case since one of Doctor Doom's 2-A prep feats kinda scales to Odin (when he absorbed Galactus's power), I'll need to make some changes to the justification so I'll need the Dr. Doom page unlocked.Considering how messy Galactus' tiering in general is and how it doesn't take into account proper power mechanism, yes, he will lose his 2-A in that key. The other will still be kepteven tho it's like a low 1-a feat. Based
Thanks for explaining.Odin gets 2-A, but with a "Varies" mechanism. Can varies tiers have three things listed? Because I think it would be good to have the 2-C for the tier others will scale from from (AKA "Normal Skyfather" tier) but I also think a 3-C tier is reasonable. Could we do something like "Varies, from 3-C at the lowest, 2-C normally, up to 2-A at peak"? Egyptian Gods also get 2-A, but I think that was handled in another thread.
Other Skyfathers and the Hell Lords get 2-C via scaling from various feats about the Nine Realms, and a Hell Lord feat of merging several Universe-sized realms. I think Surtur w/ Twilight Sword and Eternal Flames gets 2-A as well, as he does have a 2-A feat.
Old King Thor and Gorr get "At least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C" based on OKT fighting pretty evenly against Phoenix Force Wolverine, with OKT being able to severely harm him, but losing due to Phoenix Wolverine's regen. Gorr gets it due to being significantly higher than OKT.
I'd be fine with doing the sandboxes, but it might be better for someone else to do, as mine is very full.