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mahika am neutral since I don't even know a thing about the novels although @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara makes sense and if anos regeneration is as he/she explains it to be then sure
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Fuji saying Self Resurrection is not Regeneration but explanation page states otherwise. Using resurrection on themselves is literally self Resurrection.mahika am neutral since I don't even know a thing about the novels although @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara makes sense and if anos regeneration is as he/she explains it to be then sure
When in the hands of a character who uses resurrection on themselves, giving them some degree of Immortality, this ability often co-exists with Regeneration, though the process can take some time. This ability is not to be confused with Necromancy, the ability to raise the dead as undead beings, but it also covers Reincarnation, characters who, upon death, eventually reincarnate the bodies of others - not as a mechanic of the verse, but through their own powers.
Report me then.Next time you say something like this I am just gonna report you. The page stated character can use Resurrection themselves and get immortality and regeneration it didn't says anything you claimed this is clearly bias you are showing right now.
Can you read now ? This is the biggest size in wiki you can see I can't help you if you keep ignoring this.
Real.
Let's just save the HGR thing for another thread. This thread and the previous one already got too derailing and off-topic-y.
I dunno whataboutism is cringe.I don't know who was the genius who came up with the idea of bringing Rimuru to a Maou thread.... They seems to like war.
Is actually a good argument, because it forces people to look at standards.I dunno whataboutism is cringe.
Stfu strym, don't fuel the heatIs actually a good argument, because it forces people to look at standards.
Where did I said every character. We are talking about specific verse and clear cut statements.Report me then.
It does not say that every character who uses self-resurrection also has regeneration, just that the two often go hand in hand. While I would like more elaboration on the standards for when self-resurrection also grants regeneration as a power, we don't have that right now, so for now we shouldn't just assume that Anos qualifies. But of course, the fact that no character with self-resurrection has regen as a result of that makes me a little suspicious.
Info stuffs i share the same oppinion as you, in the resistance negation i still digress. I will make a quick stay.Dereck how strongly do you feel about the above matters and are we able to all come to an agreement about the rest and get the changes made? I don't know much about how concepts are classified so I haven't said anything in that regard
Resistance Negation is the ability to remove an opponent's ability to resist certain effects, allowing the user to then affect them with those abilities. In extreme cases, this ability can even override apparent immunity.
To contest this somewhat, Venuzdonoa's abilities being far above order/laws wouldn't really discredit it being law manipulation. It'd just be a higher degree of law manipulation than order.Info stuffs i share the same oppinion as you, in the resistance negation i still digress. I will make a quick stay.
Many of venuzdonoa's feats come from destroying logic/reason in the verse which is not something that the manipulation of order can do. The application of law manipulation in the verse does not compare to venuzdonoa's manipulation of reason and it would be contradictory to categorize reason/logic under "Law Manipulation" so if we base it directly on the feat is "Venuzdonoa negating Jerga's immunity so that Evansmana who could not affect him because he was immune to it then could affect him" this is Resistance negation whichever way you look at it.
Let's quote the page
Concept stuffs should be fine to leave it for other thread.
as can resisted if one has sufficient resistance to venuz law manip (almost impossible to do anyway)
Sure, idm, it's spell based regen after all, so nothing hurts it being stated in page.Okay, let me rephrase that. The page does not say that a character who uses self-resurrection will inherently have regeneration alongside it. If it did work like that, then characters with self-resurrection would have regen listed alongside it, but they don't.
Also, it being stated as being regeneration shouldn't be a factor. The ability itself is more along the lines of resurrection, so we'll treat it as such. Though, if you're really not gonna listen to reason, would listing it as "Mid-Godly via <Ingall>" be a better replacement? As long as the obvious restrictions on their regen/resurrection are explained.
waiting on that report btw
as long as it is listed as passive one since Anos can cast those spells simply from his source, then sure, Idm, the functionality of the ability will remain the same.Also, it being stated as being regeneration shouldn't be a factor. The ability itself is more along the lines of resurrection, so we'll treat it as such. Though, if you're really not gonna listen to reason, would listing it as "Mid-Godly via <Ingall>" be a better replacement? As long as the obvious restrictions on their regen/resurrection are explained.
waiting on that report btw
Do you have anything to say that isn't constant shittalking? Literally half this presence in this thread has either been "can't wait to downgrade touhou" or"you can't even argue because you KNOW you're wrong", like ******* hell, just shut up.Fuji can't even win the argument because the standards are clearer than the sun.
Current staff votes are in favor of just plain resurrection, so I'll leave it up to them.Sure, idm, it's spell based regen after all, so nothing hurts it being stated in page.
Bruh.... first of all in the verse venuzdonoa dont manipulate law, and every ability of venuzdonoa is a extension of can destroy the reason, law manipulation is just one of a extension the other one yeah in this case is resistence (immunity is more correct) negationTo contest this somewhat, Venuzdonoa's abilities being far above order/laws wouldn't really discredit it being law manipulation. It'd just be a higher degree of law manipulation than order.
Also, low 1-C touha upgrade thread gonna be tough game!
I never said I will downgrade the verse. did I? Sounds a tough assumptionDo you have anything to say that isn't constant shittalking? Literally half this presence in this thread has either been "can't wait to downgrade touhou" or"you can't even argue because you KNOW you're wrong", like ******* hell, just shut up.
Fuji can't even win the argument because the standards are clearer than the sun.
They are under the impression that it's stated to be ressurection not regenration? So it needs to be evaluated regardless.Current staff votes are in favor of just plain resurrection, so I'll leave it up to them.
It's not passive, he still needs to cast the spell. Thought-based abilities aren't passive.as long as it is listed as passive one since Anos can cast those spells simply from his source, then sure, Idm, the functionality of the ability will remain the same.
Will take care of that. @Deagonx @Theglassman12Current staff votes are in favor of just plain resurrection, so I'll leave it up to them.
What do you think about this? The current discussion led to the page stating that both abilities can and often co-exist, and practically in the verse both resurrection and regeneration were used, both are valid here, so use of Mid-Godly via <Ingall> should be valid, you can look at the rest of the discussion for more context if needed.would listing it as "Mid-Godly via <Ingall>" be a better replacement? As long as the obvious restrictions on their regen/resurrection are explained.
tbf, from Mid-Godly, resurrection and regeneration isn't that much different, the argument to remove "regeneration" is pretty much sematically because the verse wrote resurrect instead of regenerate. So i disagree with removing Mid-Godly regen, it can be both regen and resurrect, since characters practically reform themselves
Character explicitly regenerated and revived since to revive you have to regenerate first.
lolwhere exactly in any of the scans implied he is required to cast the spell?
Yeah, if they don't participate, that's still being part of the peanut gallery. Btw could you ask planck to take a look at the refutations? His agreement came way before any of themNothing stopping him from dropping in to say "I agree" and then unfollowing.
- Regeneration (Mid-Godly) via Possession: They can send their consciousness from the Demon World to the Human World from small gaps[8] and they can also rebuild their bodies when they are possessing things[9] and can even materialize themselves when they die, once their rage and fury are mixed together to create the demons called Soul Eaters.[10] However, it is required that they possess nearby materials using only their souls to be able to reform their bodies back. Their Devil Trigger state allows them to heal their wounds instantly[11].
Time to downgrade DMC by FUJIWARA standards
Time to downgrade DMC by FUJIWARA standards
Time to downgrade DMC by FUJIWARA standards
Time to downgrade DMC by FUJIWARA standards
They don't know.
Then she complains if I "derail" coz I point out a blatant violation of the standards.Can you please stop ******* derailing for once in your life?
Bruh... I don't even care for this thread but this straight up outta line and pretty disappointing behaviour for you (along with other older comments).Fuji was fighting glassman for life to let the downgrade accepted, obv she will agree
Can you please stop ******* derailing for once in your life?
I did not mention DMC, did I? So, this post of yours counts as derailment as well.
I rest my case, I'm outta here peace! ✌Then she complains if I "derail" coz I point out a blatant violation of the standards.
Def not your average LN fan.
Too bad, I am not the one who involved DMC, Tensura or Undertale as far. (only touha, and even by that, I only asked her progress because its slow)Then she complains if I "derail" coz I point out a blatant violation of the standards.
Def not your average LN fan.