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Makima vs Alucard - azontr vs Gin's Car - 3/1/7 (Grace Enacted)

All the people absorbed by Alucard during the manga were already dead and/or killed by him
False, a large majority weren't even killed by Alucard in London. At the time of London Alucard only had a few hundred thousand souls, due to the amount of lives lost on the battle field even when Alucard wasn't present he was able to go from that amount to millions of souls. As long as blood is present he can absorb it without damaging the opponent.
 
I didnt say at any point that the person should be killed by Alucard tho. Everyone he absorbed during the manga was already dead, that's the point. He never absorbed a living being
Dandy-Man, Rip and Luke Valentine would like a word with you.


He absorbs living beings all the time, hence why he can still summon the physical bodies of his opponents. Their bodies, souls, and minds are assimilated, it's the entire existence that gets absorbed into Alucard and maintained till he needs to sacrifice a life.
 
Alucard sacrificing a soul to experience what Cosmos does wouldn’t save him from the experience because the same thing happened with the puppet devil where every single person controlled by the puppet devil also experienced the knowledge of the universe.
 
Dandy-Man, Rip and Luke Valentine would like a word with you.
All were killed and bitten to be absorbed

Dandy was literally physically destroyed to be absorbed, through touch
Rip was... Well, you know, the scene is ******* weird.
And Valentine was swallowed by a dog
 
No it wouldn't because upon said assimilation she'd become one with his existence. It required a type 1 Abstract paradoxical existence to get around his absorption.
Her becoming one with his existence would only force him to experience the information tho- It's counterintuitive lol.
It's absolutely not irrelevant, what's irrelevant is the knowledge that would be "forced" onto him. It wouldn't be forced onto Alucard unless it's paradoxical and or Abstract in nature.



Anything that Alucard absorbs is incapable of being used against him due to them becoming one with them. It's similar to how to Devil's Contract is made but a level up, and the only way to bypass said absorption is to have an existence that's similar to that of Schrodinger.
Scans?
 
Alucard sacrificing a soul to experience what Cosmos does wouldn’t save him from the experience because the same thing happened with the puppet devil where every single person controlled by the puppet devil also experienced the knowledge of the universe.
The difference is that the Puppet Devil isn't sacrificing those under her control to remain unaffected, whereas Alucard does.
All were killed and bitten to be absorbed

Dandy was literally physically destroyed to be absorbed, through touch
Rip was... Well, you know, the scene is ******* weird.
And Valentine was swallowed by a dog
Which is irrelevant, again the only condition is that there needs to be blood present.
 
Which is irrelevant, again the only condition is that there needs to be blood present.
Whats your proof that Alucard can absorb a living being with a hand movement or anything similar? Because the only thing showed in-manga is Alucard absorbing via touch. The only time Alucard absorbed beings from a distance was with already dead bodys
 
The difference is that the Puppet Devil isn't sacrificing those under her control to remain unaffected, whereas Alucard does.
This would be a distinction without meaning since Cosmos could just go through every single sacrifice until she reaches Alucard. She encompasses “everything” in the universe with her knowledge and we know her ability spreads to everting connected to the subject as was the case with the puppet devil so even if Alucard were to try and sacrifice someone’s mind the knowledge can then just move onto the next person.
 
Her becoming one with his existence would only force him to experience the information tho- It's counterintuitive lol.
It wouldn't unless Alucard decides to either summon her or use her abilities, both of which aren't in character for him to do. She'd be considered another soul for his soul-stock, nothing else.
Luke, Rip and Dandy being unable to retaliate against Alucard. Baskerville bending to his whim, even whenever they're actively attempting to free themselves.
Whats your proof that Alucard can absorb a living being with a hand movement or anything similar? Because the only thing showed in-manga is Alucard absorbing via touch. The only time Alucard absorbed beings from a distance was with already dead bodys
King you're an actual goober og.



Makima summons halo's that contain blood, again they don't need to be dead there just needs to be blood present. Schrodinger wasn't dead until he was erased after becoming one with Alucard, his blood was still present before he died. Your entire argument makes zero sense my guy.
 
This would be a distinction without meaning since Cosmos could just go through every single sacrifice until she reaches Alucard.
Uh no she wouldn't unless she continues to do so without Alucard retaliating, especially considering his mind hax only requires eye contact. Unless you think he can't even manage to look at her which is some next level wank then he can counter.
She encompasses “everything” in the universe with her knowledge and we know her ability spreads to everting connected to the subject as was the case with the puppet devil so even if Alucard were to try and sacrifice someone’s mind the knowledge can then just move onto the next person.
Again, upon assimilation she isn't retaliating as she'd be under his control. All of what you said is meaningless.
 
It wouldn't unless Alucard decides to either summon her or use her abilities, both of which aren't in character for him to do. She'd be considered another soul for his soul-stock, nothing else.
Luke, Rip and Dandy being unable to retaliate against Alucard. Baskerville bending to his whim, even whenever they're actively attempting to free themselves.
This ain't scans.
 
Uh no she wouldn't unless she continues to do so without Alucard retaliating, especially considering his mind hax only requires eye contact. Unless you think he can't even manage to look at her which is some next level wank then he can counter.
No once one of them is in the experience then all of them are. That’s how it works since they’re directly connected. Is there any evidence Alucard can “sacrifice” a mind to escape a mental attack while be completely disconnected from that person?
Again, upon assimilation she isn't retaliating as she'd be under his control. All of what you said is meaningless.
This isn’t true and the examples you cite don’t prove your positions since that doesn’t mean Alucard wouldn’t experience Cosmos’ knowledge. If Alucard is absorbing Cosmos which includes her souls and MIND then he’s gaining all the knowledge cosmos has by default since he literally absorbed her mind lmao. So all the information stored in her mind which includes all the knowledge of everything would also flow into Alucard’s very being and he’d end up just saying Halloween forever.
 
For Alucard to absorb Cosmos’ mind he would need to absorb all the information that goes along with it. We’ve seen Cosmos pull people on her own mind before and we know what it looks like. So for Alucard to absorb that, he needs to absorb that entire library of knowledge about everything in existence that comes with her brain.
 
No once one of them is in the experience then all of them are. That’s how it works since they’re directly connected. Is there any evidence Alucard can “sacrifice” a mind to escape a mental attack while be completely disconnected from that person?
My guy this literally happens all the time whenever Alucard is pressed, and that's not how it would work with Alucard. Again Alucard is not the Puppet Devil, comparing the two doesn't work. One makes contracts, the other directly enslave your entire being.
This isn’t true and the examples you cite don’t prove your positions since that doesn’t mean Alucard wouldn’t experience Cosmos’ knowledge. If Alucard is absorbing Cosmos which includes her souls and MIND then he’s gaining all the knowledge cosmos has by default since he literally absorbed her mind lmao. So all the information stored in her mind which includes all the knowledge of everything would also flow into Alucard’s very being and he’d end up just saying Halloween forever.
Ah yes the classic "this isn't true..." argument with no further elaboration aside from literal speculation. Very convincing argument.




Also read above, already debunked this argument. For starters, her information manip is based on Mind Manipulation which Alucard can resist in spades.
In this scan I’m seeing Luke Valentine literally shoot Alucard so this would disprove your notion that Alucard’s absorptions can’t be used against him.
Actual Goblin moment tbh. Walter is controlling Luke there via body Puppetry, so you can miss me with that fanfic.
 
For Alucard to absorb Cosmos’ mind he would need to absorb all the information that goes along with it.
No he wouldn't, again she'd become apart of his soul stock and nothing else. He wouldn't gain her knowledge or powers unless he decides to summon her, going by your logic Alucard would have known about the Major's plans after absorbing Luke Valentine which never happened.
We’ve seen Cosmos pull people on her own mind before and we know what it looks like. So for Alucard to absorb that, he needs to absorb that entire library of knowledge about everything in existence that comes with her brain.
No he wouldn't.
 
Ah yes the classic "this isn't true..." argument with no further elaboration aside from literal speculation. Very convincing argument.
Literally you lil bruh 🗿 You keep saying "she'd only become apart of his soul stock nothing more" while giving shitty scans to substantiate that, how are we meant to believe you?
 
Literally you lil bruh 🗿 You keep saying "she'd only become apart of his soul stock nothing more" while giving shitty scans to substantiate that, how are we meant to believe you?
Maybe by readind Hellsing which is 10 chapters long and much better than Chainsaw Simp?


💀 Ily but I have a feeling you were the homie in school who didn't do research for a test and said sum shit like "Ayo bruh how am I supposed to know?"
 
I will just say that Hellsing isnt better than Chainsaw Man

This comes from a person who in the golden age wanked Alucard to High 1-A
 
Maybe by readind Hellsing which is 10 chapters long and much better than Chainsaw Simp?


💀 Ily but I have a feeling you were the homie in school who didn't do research for a test and said sum shit like "Ayo bruh how am I supposed to know?"
I'm gonna call you racial slurs
 
My guy this literally happens all the time whenever Alucard is pressed, and that's not how it would work with Alucard. Again Alucard is not the Puppet Devil, comparing the two doesn't work. One makes contracts, the other directly enslave your entire being.
I’m asking you to show this working on a mental level and not a physical one.
Ah yes the classic "this isn't true..." argument with no further elaboration aside from literal speculation. Very convincing argument.




Also read above, already debunked this argument. For starters, her information manip is based on Mind Manipulation which Alucard can resist in spades.
You have not demonstrated how those examples support your position. You just went “these guys show it” and leave it at that. Just saying “this is it” without actually explaining how those examples prove your position isn’t a convincing argument.

so he’s gonna be resisting him absorbing her mind? Because all that information manipulation of hers does is force the viewer to experience her knowledge. But if Alucard is absorbing her then he’s absorbing her mind. Along with everything that goes with it, so no mind manipulation needs to be done here by Cosmos. What would transpire would be entirely from Alucard’s own doing by absorbing her and the knowledge she retains.

This is literally a Schrödinger type situation only with endless knowledge being used here instead of a paradox.
Actual Goblin moment tbh. Walter is controlling Luke there via body Puppetry, so you can miss me with that fanfic.
You literally said “Alucard’s absorptions can’t be used against him” and then proceeded to provide a scan displaying objectively speaking one of Alucard’s absorptions being used against him. What you say now doesn’t make your words any less wrong.
 
I think if it was the sea cucumber devil, lulcard would have a chance but what to do right? life just isn't fair 👺
 
Now down to your Chainsaw Man overlords 👽


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I’m asking you to show this working on a mental level and not a physical one.
It works on a mental, physical and spiritual level. Stop trying to gaslight me by asking questions that you can find the answer to on his profile.
You have not demonstrated how those examples support your position. You just went “these guys show it” and leave it at that. Just saying “this is it” without actually explaining how those examples prove your position isn’t a convincing argument
I posted two literal scans and the rest of the information can be found within his profile. It's up to you to be intentionally ignorant of information that's presented to you.
so he’s gonna be resisting him absorbing her mind? Because all that information manipulation of hers does is force the viewer to experience her knowledge. But if Alucard is absorbing her then he’s absorbing her mind. Along with everything that goes with it, so no mind manipulation needs to be done here by Cosmos. What would transpire would be entirely from Alucard’s own doing by absorbing her and the knowledge she retains.
He's resistant towards Mind Manipulation, which is what her information Manipulation is founded upon. She isn't becoming one with Alucard's mind, but rather to his life-stock. Upon assimilation she isn't going to be giving Alucard access to her abilities right off the bat, again he'd need to summon her for that to happen so if you could stop ignoring that part that would be great.

This is literally a Schrödinger type situation only with endless knowledge being used here instead of a paradox.
Hahaha yeah no, Cosmos doesn't posses endless knowledge so that's the typical reddit CSM simp wank. This isn't anything close to a Schrodinger situation, Schrodinger was a direct consequence of absorbing something abstract.




Man it like CSM fans have poor reading comprehension, not much of a surprise considering they think it's a good manga kek.
 
Defaulting to saying your opponent has poor reading comprehension and saying the series they like is trash doesn't reflect well on you 🤡 what a lack of CSM does to a mf.
 
Defaulting to saying your opponent has poor reading comprehension and saying the series they like is trash doesn't reflect well on you 🤡 what a lack of CSM does to a mf.
I might be lacking on CSM but you my son are lacking in bitches. Stay dry, no sauce.
 
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