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Madara vs Gilgamesh

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No that was definitely durability, cause if it wasn't durability, he'd already been ripped to shreds before he got close to Gilgamesh.
 
Yeah but Shirou didn't beat Gil because of experience, he did it because he copied Gil's weapons and fired the copies back at the originals.
 
Theglassman12 said:
No that was definitely durability, cause if it wasn't durability, he'd already been ripped to shreds before he got close to Gilgamesh.
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He dodged most of the attacks. I don't even remember him getting pierced only scraped.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Yeah but Shirou didn't beat Gil because of experience, he did it because he copied Gil's weapons and fired the copies back at the originals.
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Most of the fight in UBW he didn't send anything. He would pick random swords of the ground and deflect.
 
Theglassman12 said:
No that was definitely durability, cause if it wasn't durability, he'd already been ripped to shreds before he got close to Gilgamesh.
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Shirou doesn't scale to Gilgamesh's weapons. He's wall level in both durability and AP without weapons in his hand or Rho Asia.
 
are we forgetting that not only can madara use his sharinga to precog, he can also use it to copy shit, so the same attack will never work twice, plus do yall remember the good old 25 wood clones?
 
And they were also in Shirou's Pocket dimension, which amplified his stats even further to keep up with Gilgamesh.
 
@Celestial

That is how the fight went though. If Shirou didn't use UBW to counter GoB, what was the point of even using it in the first place. Also shield spam is a thing Gil can do.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
are we forgetting that not only can madara use his sharinga to precog, he can also use it to copy shit, so the same attack will never work twice, plus do yall remember the good old 25 wood clones?
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Madara precogs Gil calling him a mongrel ovo

Wood clones can't reach him on Vimana.
 
I doubt there's a 6-B/High 6-A shield that Gilgamesh has that's not on his profile. Any lower tier would just get mauled and then Gil would face the same fate.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Gil's mftl indian spaceship.
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.....sounds hella scketchy, but considering i know nothing, i wont comment on the fact that for one to pilot such ship would need mftl speed eyes and reflexes
 
Gil restricts SNI though because its just no fun (still has clairvoyance anyway). If Susanoo comes out, SNI is getting turned on.
 
Speed equal equalizes everything. Thought speed, attack speed, and travel speed. Gilgamesh isn't going to turn on SNI and his Clairvoyance didn't do anything to help him not get beaten up by shirou. Saying Gilgamesh will turn on SNI just because Madara uses Susano'o is like saying Gilgamesh would use SNI anytime a Rider uses their summon or a servant uses their noble phantasm. He's not going to go "look a big blue skeleton, whelp better turn on my omniscience". Gilgamesh is literally known for his arrogance and has canonically never turned on SNI in his Archer form(correct me if I'm wrong on that). A lot of you guys keep mentioning Gilgamesh flying on Vimana,but you're either forgetting or just don't know that Susano'o has wings and Madara can just follow Gilgamesh in the air, especially since speed is equal. I don't even know why Gilgamesh would even go in the air though, because any range that is too far for Madara to hit him from is too far for Gilgamesh to hit Madara because they have the same range.
 
A spaceship would be treated like a speed amp, and I am pretty sure things are still proportional to one another. Speed equal doesn't mean that if a character hops in a car or something that car is locked to their running speed.
 
200 hundred meters I feel is still not enough to give a definitive result in Gil's favor.

Gil's preferred order of using his stuff is always as follows GoB projectiles->Actual proper use of the NPs he has at his disposal->Enkidou chains->Ea

First off all, the farther away you are from something, the more time you have to react to it, Berserker in the VN had more than enough time to notice a Archer's caladbolg flying towards him, and he ignored it up until last second and he still had time to turn his body and do a full swing from his Axe before it connected. Projectiles shot from GoB, unlike Archer's BPs, have a practically no AoE, meaning they're as easy to dodge as arrows are and Madara can easily see their flight pattern as they close in on him similar to Kunai.

Furthermore, Gil's prefered range for using GoB is always shown to not be more than a few dozen meters from the target, the only time we've seen him hit something from afar was against Caster's monster which was practically an stationary object.

Considering all of the previous, there is practically no way the distance isn't reduced again to Madara's advantage if Gil only relies on NPs shot from GoB.

As far as individual NPs go, the only ones that have any shot at actually hurting Madara if he pulls out his Susanoo are Gae-darg and his Space-cutting axe, both of which aren't really an insta kill technique as they'd have to connect first, and only the latter would prove to do lasting damage since Edo Regen would practically render the former useless.

Enkidou is a restraining technique that is extra effective on people with divinity, which is something Madara doesn't have and can also break out from by using his Susanoo in the same way he did from the 5kage combination attack.

Gil pulling Ea is entirely reliant on him realizing all of his other methods aren't working and Madara also has multiple AoE options he doesn't really hesitate to use.

IMO the match is 6/10 on Madara's favor given how Gil's only real option to end Madara is Ea which is something he is reluctant to use.
 
I know, Madara's Perfect Susano'o flight is what would be equalized to Vimana's speed. Again on the topic of SNI, Gilgamesh turns it off in order to have challenges because it makes everything too easy. So, logically, if he saw something that could be a challenge he would not turn it on.
 
@Astral

You can restrict tier jumps, but you don't have to.
 
Speed equalizes everything about the characters, not their gear. Vimana is basically a speed amp.

Clairvoyance cant really help when everything you have has been cockblocked and you are being outskilled by whatever hero wielded the swords in Shirou's hands. It is very useful when the opponent is way over there and GoB is free to fire its thousands of weapons.

Gilgamesh may be arrogant but he knows when to take shit seriously, like when the glowy blue skeleton/person is shrugging off all his shit. Turning on your omniscient precog is a pretty good way to figure out how to get around it (coughEacough).

Vimana out speeds and out maneuvers PS unless I missed some scans of Madara flying around in it showcasing his mad piloting skills. Is there even a panel with both of its feet off the ground?

Everything in this fight is range of Ea.
 
hm....i wonder how fast said susanoo could fly.... naruto characters literally do everything in a mhs state all the time right? and just by being normal humans.. imagine if they had wings instead of feet hahahaha
 
Because Susano'o and Vimana are both travel speed? Look if that's not equalized then this is a stomp because of the massive speed blitz.

Clairvoyance would have stopped him from doing the actions to get into that no- win situation.

Except all it has to do is hit him once and he won't realize that it shrugs off everything before Madara attacks.

Again, Gil doesn't use EA unless he's about to die or respects his opponent.
 
When he fought the Kage. They were gonna go to sleep if it wasn't for Onoki

Or it was poison in the air from the plants but I think it was sleep powder because they were getting tired and sluggish..if I look at his profile I'll correct myself
 
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