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Shirou's tracing lets him know what weapon is being fired the moment it peeks out of GoB which (unlike Gil) he doesn't need to pull from somewhere else as that weapon is already present in UBW. Him shooting his weapons faster was the only reason he managed to counter it. Tracing also gives him all the battle experience he needs as well seeing as the combined fighting skill of thousands of HS >>>>>>>> Madara. Madara's experience hat doesn't work as an argument.
 
They had a hard time just to defend themselves. And he was holding back. Madara isn't good enough to dodge thousand upon thousands of attacks.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
i dont think u guys are getting the fact that all magic used by him equates to chakra, which madara can absorb. magical chains that protect the user? wow, really? absorbed. swords and spears made of magic? niiiiiiice, but absorbed.
Wrong. They aren't techniques, they are physical objects with magical properties. Madara gets screwed since he can't absorb shit like that.
 
SchroKatze said:
They had a hard time just to defend themselves. And he was holding back. Madara isn't good enough to dodge thousand upon thousands of attacks.
Gil would be holding back here too, he always is in this form. That's why he died.
 
The people with precog epically failed against a casual nerfed Gil's spam, which they proceeded to call impossible when they saw someone pull it off against a dozen weapons.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Shirou's tracing lets him know what weapon is being fired the moment it peeks out of GoB which (unlike Gil) he doesn't need to pull from somewhere else as that weapon is already present in UBW. Him shooting his weapons faster was the only reason he managed to counter it. Tracing also gives him all the battle experience he needs as well seeing as the combined fighting skill of thousands of HS >>>>>>>> Madara. Madara's experience hat doesn't work as an argument.
Most of the entire fight emiya didn't counteract with his own swords. He was picking up swords from the ground and deflecting them with relative ease. Making Gilgamesh back up and eventually killing him.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
The people with precog epically failed against a casual nerfed Gil's spam, which they proceeded to call impossible when they saw someone pull it off against a dozen weapons.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
SchroKatze said:
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
i dont think u guys are getting the fact that all magic used by him equates to chakra, which madara can absorb. magical chains that protect the user? wow, really? absorbed. swords and spears made of magic? niiiiiiice, but absorbed.
Wrong. They aren't techniques, they are physical objects with magical properties. Madara gets screwed since he can't absorb shit like that.
i never said they were techniques. i said "are they made of magic". it doenst need to a freakin a vodoo spell for madara to absorb it. if its made of magic, he can absorb, as magic is literally the same chakra in this battle.
 
Gilgamesh is insufferably arrogant and will thus almost always hold back unless he sees his opponent as entertaining or worthy of his power. He barely knows how to wield most of the weapons in the Gate of Babylon.

Which people?
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Emiya doesn't have precog.

Berserker only died because he was proctecting his master the entire time, who also doesn't have precog.
 
Celestial Judge said:
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Emiya doesn't have precog.

Berserker only died because he was proctecting his master the entire time, who also doesn't have precog.

E Y E O F T H E M I N D.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Gilgamesh is insufferably arrogant and will thus almost always hold back unless he sees his opponent as entertaining or worthy of his power. He barely knows how to wield most of the weapons in the Gate of Babylon.
Which people?


If Madara even manages to dodge the first wave, Gil will stop holding back that much. He got pissed off because Lancelot held one of the weapons he shoot and instantly attacked him even more.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
SchroKatze said:
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
i dont think u guys are getting the fact that all magic used by him equates to chakra, which madara can absorb. magical chains that protect the user? wow, really? absorbed. swords and spears made of magic? niiiiiiice, but absorbed.
Wrong. They aren't techniques, they are physical objects with magical properties. Madara gets screwed since he can't absorb shit like that.
i never said they were techniques. i said "are they made of magic". it doenst need to a freakin a vodoo spell for madara to absorb it. if its made of magic, he can absorb, as magic is literally the same chakra in this battle.
Unless you can show him absorbing physical objects with magical properties like a chakra enhanced kunai, he can't do shit here.
 


If Madara even manages to dodge the first wave, Gil will stop holding back that much. He got pissed off because Lancelot held one of the weapons he shoot and instantly attacked him even more.

He's going to be dead after the first wave.
 
Can people please stop quoting walls of text?

@Celestial

Go tell that to Heracles who got slammed from all sides after the first step.
 
Dodging =/= Touching one of Gilgamesh's weapons. Besides, as soon as Madara sees the barrage, he either pulls out the wood release or susano'o and oneshots everything since Gil has no durability negation.
 
All servants and weapons are made of magic.

Rule Breaker doesn't instantly kill them by stabbing them.

Gae Dearg doesn't ignore Dura due to cutting through magic

Phantasm Punishment doesn't cause them to shatter apart.

Galvanism doesn't cause other servants to be absorbed on contacts

They might be made of magic but there is very much a difference between something like Saber's armour which is made of magic, and Saber herself.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Can people please stop quoting walls of text?

@Celestial

Go tell that to Heracles who got slammed from all sides after the first step.
Because he was blocking his servant who Gilgamesh knowingly tried to make him protect instead of fighting him straight on lol. Are you serious?
 
Lol what? That was Herc going on the offensive at the start of the fight and being put on his ass. What little remains of Madara's corpse is gonna be hit with no regen stuff pretty quickly.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
@Monarch

Phantasm punishment will **** up madara if it his any of his chakra attacks tho. and it did mess up Kayneth's magic when it hit his
I think you missed my point
 
AnonymousBlank said:
So was Herc while Gil was nerfed, casual and still holding back.
Pretty sure if you're protecting someone (a fragile infant girl) you're going to get hit no matter what because of spam. And the speed behind it as well.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Dodging =/= Touching one of Gilgamesh's weapons. Besides, as soon as Madara sees the barrage, he either pulls out the wood release or susano'o and oneshots everything since Gil has no durability negation.
^. Look at the massive tier difference between Madara's attacks and Gil's weapons. If Gil throws anything besides EA, and he's not going to start with EA or maybe even use it at all, it's just going to get destroyed and then he's going to get oneshotted as the attack continues onto him.
 
Just looked at both of their pages. The most powerful base Gilgamesh gets is Island+ while a reanimated Madara is Continent Level+ lmao this is like a I predicted. One hell of a stomp.
 
@Celestial Gilgamesh is 5-B with Enuma Elish

@Astral Base gilgamesh that's not in the game where he has all the resistance in the world.

@Dragon unless he's pushed into a tight corner, he might use it.
 
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