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The range was moved back specifically because people argued that Gilgamesh would just hop on Vimana.

"Gil fires things, sees they don't work, hops on Vimana, flies around, firing more things, eventually pulls Ea."

"If it was SBA Gil could hop on Vimana and fly around until he realises his swords aren't breaking through susanoo and Madara's regenerating from everything, at which point he throws Ea."

"If Gilgamesh starts flying Madara will literally be able to do nothing."

Basically this stuff. It completely ignores that Madara and Gilgamesh have the same range and that Madara can also fly. It ignores how Madara isn't going to just sit there and get attacked when him seeing the "undodgeable attacks"(their words) would cause him to attack with something that would be strong enough to knock them all away which would also be able to kill Gil, aka 6-B wood or High 6-A susano'o.
 
That's not how Nasuverse luck works. It only helps in inevitable situations such as being Gae Bolged. It won't work in this situation. If you want a more detailed explanation, ask Monarch


Reggy reeeeeee
 
If he is guaranteed to die with the first wave then it will also get saved from the luck. For a comparable situation, take people surviving Kojiro's NP by luck alone
 
Because Kojiros NP and Gae Bolg literally break the laws of reality in order to hit their target. This is just a simple wood slap/ sword slash. Luck only saves you from hax in Nasu. See Gilgamesh's best friend dying and losing the drink of immortality to a basic snake.
 
Kojiro's ability is to slash multiple times, it does not guarantee that he will land. Kojiro's ability is not hax any more then Tien multiplying his limbs
 
He technically lands the 3 hits with 1 blade at the same time and it's said that it is close to the second magic so idk if that counts as just swinging 3 times Back to gil though, no one is saying that he will lead with the ships just that if madara manages to avoid gob spam and enkidu gil will have no choice but to hop on
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
Kojiro's ability is to slash multiple times, it does not guarantee that he will land. Kojiro's ability is not hax any more then Tien multiplying his limbs
Kojiro puts three slashes into one slash with swordsmanship that's almost a True magic. Tien is just making more limbs, that would only be comparable if Kojiro was holding three swords.
 
Even if madara 1 shots the first wave of gob including enkidu it will not just 1 shot gil as he has shields and such in the gate and I'm pretty sure his armor should help too if Gil sees madara 1 shot an entire barrage from gob he will likely see him as a threat and if he sees madara has a decent amount t of range he would hop on the ship to get more distance

Even if Gil doesn't listen to sni however he still has great clairvoyance and would be able to see madaras range and power by looking at him so he would be ready for madara 1 shotting his gob barrage and have counter measures to survive it or just fire something harder to break like sul sagana or ig alima, that same clairvoyance would show that madara is reanimated too so gil will fire black keys and such

Also gil used vimana in prisma illya to fly around and nuke a mountain just saying

Also as a side note since Chakra is equalized to magic wouldn't gil be resistant to most ninjutsu because of magic resistance he also should be able to pierce the susano, which is pure chakra with gae dearg or be able to cause it to be unsummoned with rule breaker

On a completely unrelated note though since kiritsugus origin rounds are technically made by humans does gil have them
 
Would gils armor and magic resist not save him and if not his clairvoyance would warn him about madara 1 shotting gob and him but since this is in character he wouldn't listen to it likely
 
This thread is over 300 posts long

99% sure this should be closed as it's going absolutely nowhere.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Gilgamesh doesn't have any 6-B or High 6-A shields. The same attack that destroyed the gob wave will kill Gil.
He has the conceptual protection from Rho Aias, so the projectiles are going to do nothing
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Kojiro puts three slashes into one slash with swordsmanship that's almost a True magic. Tien is just making more limbs, that would only be comparable if Kojiro was holding three swords.
Yes, but my point still stands. It is an impressive technique, dont get me wrong, but it is not technically hax. It does not bypass durability, and can by counter acted by sufficiently skilled swordsman. The more impressive this about it is that, unless you have some exact counter, you would have to be that much more skilled then Kijiro deal with both the technique and him. Also, his technique works incredibly well against those who manipulate probability, timelines, and fate, because he is over lapping other worlds with his own

But despite all this, it is not technically a hax technique. Makes his duels with Musashi all that much more impressive lol
 
He has the conceptual protection from Rho Aias, so the projectiles are going to do nothing


When has Gilgamesh ever used Rho Aias? That would have helped against Shirou.
 
Gil particularly fools around when fighting "fakes." He is probably just as likely to pull it up as basically any of the other defensive hax he has. If you want another point that he has been seen using, his attack reflection shield that reflects all magic back at their user, and chakra equalizes to magic.
 
anyway, I vote for Gil. He may fool around, but he doesn't just sit there and just chuck random weapons with no thought about as soon as Madara proves himself a decent threat. He wouldn't pull out Ea for a good bit, but if projectiles come at him he will defend against them.

If Madara even does well enough like defending against a barrage of his weapons, he may even pull out Ea.

Thus, I vote Gil
 
Then, there is something wrong with his profile if what you say is true.

It's written that Rho Aias : " it has been sublimed as a virtually absolute Conceptual Defense against thrown and launched weaponry. "
 
He won't use the meteorite, it was made to take care of the masses, and I doubt he used the tensei skills either, in this key anyways.

He goes precog and Susanoo slashes.
 
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